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xmrvsbeast[m]
<pauliouk> "yup theres a connection that..." <- raffle was shot, added some sanity checks, testing continues 😉
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Inge
It has probably been mentioned here before, but both CryptonightR and RX are included in Techpowerup benchmarks:
techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-th…e-asus-rog-zenith-ii-extreme/8.html
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hyc
I lobbied with several review sites to add these to their benchmark suites
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DataHoarder
heh
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hyc
Well, RandomX is legit a thorough test of CPU+RAM performance
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DataHoarder
it is!
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pauliouk
and its something that quite a lot of people would like to see benchmarks of before making purchases
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pauliouk
there's sites like betterhash that'll show the various processors and their submitted speeds, but there's no guarantee someone hasn't just photoshopped a screenshot before submission
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pauliouk
I'd quite like to see a more confirmed way of hashrates being provided - such as mining to a side chain until enough information on the hashrate has been collected
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jaska087
xmrig benchmarks are reliable
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DataHoarder
reliable, but can be edited
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DataHoarder
even so pauliouk mining to a side chain can be done using multiple miners
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pauliouk
yup I thought about that after clicking submit heh
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pauliouk
I guess it would take a custom version of xmrig, setup to mine to say p2pool, but then xmrig would submit the findings to the remote host with some sort of validation
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DataHoarder
it's all client side pauliouk
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DataHoarder
it can be changed
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hyc
I suppose with a digitally signed app you can prove that the client hasn't been tampered with
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DataHoarder
that is to trust the signature
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DataHoarder
you can still run whatever, and change the results
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DataHoarder
for it to be trusted you would need to run it from start to end in secure mode, from bootloader to OS/application
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hyc
no.... not if the client generates the signed result
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DataHoarder
the client can then reverse engineer such result, and change it to something else and sign
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hyc
but sure, you could run it inside a VM with a slowed down clock
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hyc
to get massive ops per econd
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hyc
second
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DataHoarder
oh yeah didn't even think there is no certified time, you could at least get around that with the centralized clock signatures
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hyc
well... benchmarking sites have been around for ages, nobody is doing that
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DataHoarder
well, multiple users provide their own :)
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sech1
xmrig validates benchmarks by running always online - it checks the time passed between sending a RandomX seed and receiving the final hash to confirm hashrate
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DataHoarder
vs one single tester that has a prototype
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DataHoarder
couldn't that be faked by just throwing external hashrate at it?
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DataHoarder
though indeed, effort
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hyc
sech1: what do you mean, it checks the time taken for every individual hash iteration?
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hyc
or for a batch of N iterations, same thing
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sech1
no, to calculate 1M hashes
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hyc
ok
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sech1
so it confirms the hashrate, but it's possible to submit wrong number of threads or CPU name
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sech1
*to report
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hyc
yeah, you could tweak the source to report whatever you want
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hyc
and I guess there have been some instances of people "leaking" faked benchmark results
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hyc
claiming to be engineering samples of processors etc. but totally bogus
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Inge
I'm a bit sad nobody has beat my xmrig score yet
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DataHoarder
for a specific processor, or the AMD sample Inge ?
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pauliouk
I'm fairly sure I have a record on xmrig for the lowest hashrate from a AMD processor :)
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pauliouk
poor old athlon didn't stand a chance.
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sech1
I still hold a record for Ryzen 5 5600X hashrate there
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sech1
8921.88 h/s. That machine can do 8830 h/s 24/7 with my daily overclock
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Inge
DataHoarder: Threadripper 3970x yeah
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\x
<@hyc> I lobbied with several review sites to add these to their benchmark suites
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\x
<@hyc> Well, RandomX is legit a thorough test of CPU+RAM performance
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\x
you should try contacting hwbot again
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\x
now that have a guy doing maintenance on it, not like november last year
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Inge
sech1: I see quite a few benchamrks include the motherboard in the benchmark, but about as many do not...
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Inge
sech1: is that different versions, or some motherboards can't be ID'ed or what?
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Inge
looks like it changed quite a bit. for mine it includes which dimm slots are populated and stuff
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\x
differing versions
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\x
there was a lot of benches already before they started grabbing smbios info
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\x
also, non root runs
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\x
also, non root runs on linux i think wont include smbios data
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\x
dmidecode thingy blah blah
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Inge
on closer inspection, looks like someone managed to get in right below my top spot
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Inge
I thought I had like 8 of the top 10 but there IS some competition there
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\x
i cant even grab top spot on my cpus
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\x
but hey, atleast i still probably has the highest freq memory ran there
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\x
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hyc
got 3 new outputs since yesterday
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hyc
heh, all 3 this morning, btw 3-4am
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DataHoarder
it's the morning rush :)
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DataHoarder
3 days in a row with block-heavy mornings
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hyc
interesting. maybe someone else's hashrate goes offline then
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DataHoarder
well if anything we get more then, but we were at 34MH/s for a while now
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abberant[m]
<\x> "i cant even grab top spot on..." <- bad cas?
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abberant[m]
also can someone explain why sometimes my difficulty is like 1/800th the network hashrate which I think is default, and sometimes its enough to solve shares every minute? kinda weird
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DataHoarder
It is a random process :)
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DataHoarder
although if you restart it might mine at lower difficulty while it syncs