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aresouls
hey all... i started using the p2pool software...im pretty sure i got it working but is there a command or a button somewhere to make the withdrawl or does it just show up when it gets to .0004?
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abberant[m]
it just shows up
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aresouls
awesome thanks
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DataHoarder
It does not “get” to 0.0004 aresouls but whenever you have a share in the window and a block is found, part of the reward goes to you automatically
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DataHoarder
different way compared to custodial centralized pools, but it averages out to the same amount in the end given pure pool with only Monero mining :)
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DataHoarder
There is no pool “wallet” or “persona balance” to account, everything is paid out in the blocks themselves
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abberant[m]
^
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aresouls
does that mean that if i have found 1000 shares so for they should have shown up in my wallet in the last 4 or so hours?
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abberant[m]
aresouls: pretty sure you get paid out if you've submitted a share in the last 6 hours everytime p2pool finds a block, might have to have relatively made 0.0004
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aresouls
p2pool.io/#pool is where im gettint the .0004 from as a min payout but im using an old gaming rig to mine from so im only getting 1300hr/s and guessing i will have to wait a day to get up to .0004 or do i need to be able to mine .0004 per block to reach the minimum then? theres also a very real possibility i did stuff wrong
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abberant[m]
aresouls: whatever the case is, you will be rewarded for all work just as a normal mining pool, though you might get inconsistent payouts because of luck, it will average out over a larger time scale
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abberant[m]
so I wouldnt worry about it as long as youre getting payouts
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aresouls
but thats just it im not getting the payouts... nothing has shown up in the wallet yet after four hours
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xmrvsbeast[m]
there have been 0 blocks mined in the last 3 hours, no blocks no payout
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QuickBASIC
Hey aresouls, the way it works is that you get "shares" that make you eligible to get a part of a block when it's mined. So even if you have shares if the pool doesn't find a block yet, no payout.
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QuickBASIC
Ah XvB beat me to it.
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aresouls
ha im an idiot... thought the last block was more recently but just hit refresh
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QuickBASIC
did you register with the bot? You can type .status to see your shares or .payout to see your payouts.
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QuickBASIC
.block
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xmrvsbeast[m]
as long as your p2pool stratum status is showing activity and your miner is reporting accepted shares you should be good, and make sure monerod is happy, let it rip for 48 hrs and see where you stand
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QuickBASIC
.last
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QuickBASIC
Oh wrong channel lol
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QuickBASIC
Also, p2pool still misreports shares found under the stratumserver stats when you first start up because it's not in sync yet. So if they're showing there, but not above when you type 'status', then they're not "real" shares.
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aresouls
nah i didn't bother registering with the bot... my gui is active all the time so it should just show up there whenever.... lol no need to feed my already bad ocd with yet another counter
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EDad
aresouls: It's well worth registering with the bot. You get notified when you get share so you can spend your time doing things other than staring at consoles and such. It will also give you a visual of the window and the position of your share(s) so it clarifies if you have payment coming when a block is found.
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EDad
I have my mobile client set to play different sounds when a block or share is found. So nice :)
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EDad
Plus... it's fun to show others when you've hit the raffle and you have lot's of shares in the window itching to be in your wallet.
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abberant[m]
<EDad> "aresouls: It's well worth..." <- what's "the bot"? I'm interested
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QuickBASIC
abberant[m] join #p2pool-log on IRC to see bot output. Register with /msg lucky-bot .register address
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abberant[m]
ty
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QuickBASIC
It's not bridged to matrix though. Someone else that uses Matrix will have to tell you how to join the room from Matrix.
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abberant[m]
just realized that
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abberant[m]
there no other user friendly programs with p2pool apis?
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abberant[m]
oh p2pool.observer is a thing
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DataHoarder
abberant[m]: it.s .subscribe not .register but I can add an alias
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DataHoarder
can also use it via private message only, no need to join that channel unless you like extra banter or block notifications
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DataHoarder
and yes p2pool.observer is a thing :)
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DataHoarder
I should get to document its apis soon, though all the site you see is using them
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DataHoarder
last block found by p2pool has 40 outputs (40 different miners paid all at once!). Currently I have seen 111 known different miners
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hyc
good stuff
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sethsimmons
Did my Friday shilling of p2pool to keep that interest up 😅
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sethsimmons
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abberant[m]
I've found 2 shares with 30kh/s in the last 6 days, something up or am I just unlucky?
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abberant[m]
using monerod from the release and p2pool git so, if this keeps up I might try the release instead of git, hope its not some network problem cause those are hard to find
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QuickBASIC
sethsimmons, you're looking at the wrong console IMO
twitter.com/QuickBASIC_/status/1441427306854158336
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sethsimmons
<QuickBASIC> "Seth For Privacy, you're looking..." <- I don't like sharing *any* wallet details, personally, but that is the more fun one :D
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QuickBASIC
sethsimmons: "I don't like sharing *any* wallet details, personally, but that is the more fun one :D" That's totally understood but it's a throwaway wallet. And all included is income on my taxes, but I'd have to be in serious tire financial need to ever consider spending these one sent to my test wallet and I definitely wouldn't go mingle it with my other funds despite Monero's privacy protections.
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QuickBASIC
*dire
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QuickBASIC
comingle. Ugh autocorrect.
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QuickBASIC
And I think it's important for non-technical miners to see the payouts and know that they can get payouts, because of all the recent questions that we've seen in both channels about "Why I have I've been mining
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QuickBASIC
And not getting any payouts"
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gingeropolous
'I've been mining for 10 minutes and im not rich??!?!?!?!"
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jaska087
you're obviously doing something wrong gingeropolous
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abberant[m]
scam pool!!1!, back to minexmr
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jaska087
just ordered lambo
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jaska087
hnggg.. last payment was 13 hours ago!
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abberant[m]
something really is wrong, I've made $0.90 from payouts in the last week with 30kh/s, and only submitted like 2 shares at 600M diff or so
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abberant[m]
p2pool status gives seemingly accurate 24/hr hashrate, and its giving jobs to all my miners which all report correct client side hashrate
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sethsimmons
Are your monerod and p2pool up to date? Do both have plenty of connections out? Are you connected to any particular well-connected public nodes? Are clients properly mining and seeing jobs rapidly (should be every ~10s)? Is your monerod keeping up with the networks chain tip?
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abberant[m]
looks like I only started having problems since the release
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abberant[m]
I'm using the monerod from the release, and p2pool-git from the aur, which I've kept up to date
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abberant[m]
maybe I'll try p2pool from the release and give up convenient updates for testing
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abberant[m]
since this probably isnt a coincidence
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abberant[m]
and I always have at least 8 out connections and am getting jobs ever ~10 seconds
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abberant[m]
s/ever/every/
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sethsimmons
What does "status" in p2pool tell you about effort etc?
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abberant[m]
I recently restarted so let me try and look back in my log
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abberant[m]
I have a friend who's gotten a share on my node in the last day with much less hashrate (only been running for a day), so maybe I should assume there might be an issue with my p2pool
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abberant[m]
I'm going to try the one from the release anyways
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sethsimmons
It could just be bad luck, TBH, but good to double check.
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jaska087
even the p2pool effort is skyhigh again
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jaska087
probably will land multiple shares in 6-7h
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abberant[m]
sethsimmons: 96% of my shares were found within the first half of me mining on p2pool (before release) lol, would be some insane bad luck :(
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QuickBASIC
sech1 I was reading scrollback in dev and it looks like your PR was merged for ZMQ changes. Is there a timeline for the next release that would include it?
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sech1
No. Release happens when there are enough important changes in it, it'll probably be discussed in one of the dev meetings.
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nioc
QuickBASIC: they are planning on a release soon™
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selsta
yeap