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garth Woooooo 
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ooo123ooo1234567 <plowsof[m]> "can one of the people qualified..." <- manual censorship for those who are setting wrong emojis, endor00 is it you ? 
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w[m] ooo123ooo1234567: I think its erciccione.. hes admin here. I dont think endor is a mod in mrl 
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w[m] <binaryFate> "ErCiccione: ok you're OP now for..." <- ^ 
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ErCiccione w: You don't lose any occasion to throw shit at me, don't you? 
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w[m] <ErCiccione> "w: You don't lose any occasion..." <- -lab 
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kayabanerve[m] I'm pretty interested in PLSAG. It sounds like we may have one more RCT hard fork. PLSAG + TX chaining (or deterministic binning, as it's either or) + I may write up a spec for a burning bug immune RCT address format... 
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dEBRUYNE kayabanerve[m]: What is PLSAG? 
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kayabanerve[m] The last may get left to Seraphis, yet PLSAG is the perfect opportunity for a transcript format allowing TX chaining. If we don't do deterministic binning, there's no reason not to enable that now and start getting protocols built AFAIK. 
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kayabanerve[m] dEBRUYNE: A more efficient LSAG which does a single signature for all inputs  
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kayabanerve[m] Yet unlike the MLSAG which had that... It doesn't require they share an index from my understand 
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kayabanerve[m] Because MLSAG nuked privacy if you did .-. 
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kayabanerve[m] There was just a lightning talk on it at MoneroKon. I'm not here to say it's suitably reviewed. I'm here to say I'm interested 👀 
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harutoooo[m] kayabanerve[m]: Thank you for your commment, I am the presentator of PLSAG 
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kayabanerve[m] And I do want to start discussing the next RCT HF q bit more tbh. I don't want to stagnate for two years on Seraphis. While I'd rather move up seraphis, there's obviously difficulties doing so with any timing question. 
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kayabanerve[m] harutoooo[m]: Really interesting work. I'll probably try to read the paper over the next week or so. Maybe get it going in rust... 
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UkoeHB AFAIK it uses common indices 
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UkoeHB Unless I misread the paper 
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kayabanerve[m] UkoeHB: I thought that was the explicit distinction from MLSAG, as I peered on a conversation about it here before 
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harutoooo[m] actually , I'm still writing the paper, just finish draft roughly 
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UkoeHB kayabanerve[m]: iirc it is a more efficient version of MLSAG 
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harutoooo[m] and PLSAG is middle way between MLSAG and CLSAG. 
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kayabanerve[m] Just pulled up the April 14 discussion. Yep, looks like I misread it. 
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UkoeHB Btw anyone know if monerokon will release videos of the talks? 
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kayabanerve[m] So far more performant, yet with the privacy hit :/ 
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kayabanerve[m] UkoeHB: I'd assume after? Ask #monero-events:monero.social  
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john_r365[m] According to the Twitter, yes, videos will be made available after 
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kayabanerve[m] But yeah. I think that has a privacy hit far too significant to be considerable. Guess I bit the hype of a quality presentation :p 
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UkoeHB john_r365[m]: thanks 
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kayabanerve[m] I still plan to review the paper and potentially write an impl. Excited to see how it finalizes harutoooo :) 
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harutoooo[m] Thank you 👍️ kayabanerve