<a​tomfried:matrix.org> what would be the implications if monero just decides going with a patented scheme?

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Can't you just re-implement the math in new code using a clean room standard? Mathematics cannot be patented.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> There is always risk with writing new code, of course.

<g​hostway:matrix.org> Whoa, what did I miss! Post-quantum monero??

You probably missed the coin swap deadline then ?

<g​hostway:matrix.org> I have no idea what you're talking about, sounds like I have to read a lot :)

<g​hostway:matrix.org> amazing!

<g​hostway:matrix.org> what schemes are we talking about?

<g​hostway:matrix.org> specifically about NTRU, look at cr.yp.to/patents/us/7929688.html for example

<g​hostway:matrix.org> about kyber, look at csrc.nist.gov/csrc/media/Projects/p…qc-license-summary-and-excerpts.pdf and csrc.nist.gov/csrc/media/Projects/p…CRYSTALS-Kyber-Statements-final.pdf

<g​hostway:matrix.org> these seem to suggest that,that version is truly free, but others might not be

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Falcon is the one whose implementation has a patent: csrc.nist.gov/csrc/media/Projects/p…tements/Falcon-Statements-final.pdf

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Look at which checkbox is checked

<r​ucknium:monero.social> mooo's comment was a joke by the way.

<g​hostway:matrix.org> ah, Falcon, yes.

<g​hostway:matrix.org> I understand now, I didn't know atomic swaps are already working

<g​hostway:matrix.org> very cool stuff

<g​hostway:matrix.org> those were just examples, to show math _can_ be patented... it seems to be the same case here: patents.google.com/patent/US7308097B2/en

<g​hostway:matrix.org> or, at least, the construction of the primitives... I guess