<syntheticbird> we have mainnet, stagenet, testnet and now stressnet. How about doomsnet? beyond stressing it, it is meant to make remote peers' computers catch fire and explode.

<helene:unredacted.org> lithiumnet

<monoid.cat:matrix.org> hi

<monoid.cat:matrix.org> I'm a pure math student looking for something to work on :)

<monoid.cat:matrix.org> interests: distributed systems, algorithms, cryptography

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<helene:unredacted.org> monerod is all C++, monero-oxide is still very much in development and rust

<helene:unredacted.org> i'm sure you can get pointers for stuff on monero-oxide and cuprate

<monoid.cat:matrix.org> @monoid.cat:matrix.org: since this is my first message here: hi to all fbi, nsa, interpol, europol etc agents :)

<monoid.cat:matrix.org> I'm just looking for some intellectual puzzles for myself and not a criminal <3

<monoid.cat:matrix.org> @helene:unredacted.org: hm

<monoid.cat:matrix.org> didn't find anything about the first one, and the latter seems to be just rust bindings, correct?

If you have interest in cryptography, I recommend to look into FCMP++ which is the next big upgrade for Monero

<helene:unredacted.org> monerod is the main implementation on monero-project/monero, monero-oxide is rust bindings but i believe there is an intention to reimplement things eventually

<helene:unredacted.org> and cuprate is a monerod reimplementation in rust

IIRC, FCMP++ code is Rust

<syntheticbird> hi there, there are great excitement i think into receiving someone new willing to work on mainly theoretical fields. You might look into FCMP++ as the next protocol being worked on, or otherwise discuss with @rucknium:monero.social which makes statistical studies of various topics of the monero network or protocol

<syntheticbird> im too late

<monoid.cat:matrix.org> @helene:unredacted.org: yeah I'm more interested in actual math than coding itself :(

<syntheticbird> yeah sech1, fcmp++ library is rust

<monoid.cat:matrix.org> sech1: thx!

<helene:unredacted.org> @syntheticbird: unsurprising for an inter-euro-fbi-nsa-pol agent.....

<monoid.cat:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: thank u

<syntheticbird> @helene:unredacted.org: real

The actual math is here github.com/kayabaNerve/fcmp-plus-plus-paper

<helene:unredacted.org> i believe zero to monero also brings up a bunch of the base theory for how monero currently works? but it's been a long time, there's probably newer/less outdated resources

yes, but it's a bit outdated

<helene:unredacted.org> i hope it will get updated, especially with FCMP++ coming eventually :)

<helene:unredacted.org> it's such a good resource

<syntheticbird> @helene:unredacted.org: I brought the topic of a formal protocol documentation after hard fork

<syntheticbird> so maybe not in the form of a zero to monero update, but something else, that is still more up to date

<syntheticbird> btw @monoid.cat:matrix.org you might want to visit monero-book.cuprate.org

<helene:unredacted.org> i feel something like zero to monero is really useful because it brings you up from nothing, with the entire view of what's going on; it's a great introduction to everything

<monoid.cat:matrix.org> is cryptonote whitepaper a prerequisite? Haven't read it yet > <@helene:unredacted.org> i believe zero to monero also brings up a bunch of the base theory for how monero currently works? but it's been a long time, there's probably newer/less outdated resources

<helene:unredacted.org> very useful for onboarding :)

<helene:unredacted.org> @monoid.cat:matrix.org: i think nowadays not so much? but it would help you make more sense of some terminology

<syntheticbird> im not sure cryptonote is relevant anymore

Not relevant since RingCT and RandomX (both are not a part of cryptonote)

<syntheticbird> for irc, the newcomer just the left this room

<syntheticbird> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/jUYbmXnHjTASBvlfIjpsSrVh.png (carrotAddressGeneration.png)

<syntheticbird> @jeffro256:monero.social is this schema the rectified one?

that's a good schema

<jeffro256> @syntheticbird: Yup!

<kayabanerve:matrix.org> @helene:unredacted.org: monero-oxide isn't bindings and is a reimplementation.

<helene:unredacted.org> ah, so that's what i thought, but i was fooled!

<helene:unredacted.org> thanks for the confirmation :)

<kayabanerve:matrix.org> I mean, years ago it was a monero-rs wrapper and did bind the C++ for some things, but yearssss ago

<kayabanerve:matrix.org> It's become its own, incredibly healthy ecosystem :)

<helene:unredacted.org> and it's a good thing to see alternative implementations :)

<kayabanerve:matrix.org> Yep, it's caught a lot within the Monero protocol and promoted a lot of improvements!

<kayabanerve:matrix.org> (Not to say the Monero protocol had critical issues caught by this, just to say taking a second look from scratch identified a lot of topics)

<helene:unredacted.org> you always find out some bugs and undocumented things doing something like that