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"I know we missed ccs meeting, but community already decided yes" <= wut?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> The ccs is 3 months old, the design years
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> its gone through like 5 meetings and was closed even though consensus said merge. Do i personally like the proposal? I didn't vote for or against it. Just stating that red taping without clear objections isn't how ccs is supposed to work.
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"The ccs is 3 months old, the design years" <= not a sign of consensus
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<321bob321:monero.social> Please sign this consent form ____
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> 3 months and only 1 (recent) downvote. "not consensus" says the guy with a marketing campaign for his proprietary movie that had a 50:50 ratio of votes
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I think the proposal is unclear in "who's doing what" / what work is being commissioned.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I'd argue that the objection claiming we didn't have a function workgroup was false / incorrect. The _new_ website doesn't have a workgroup, and why should it?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I think community voted in one direction on the proposal because they like shiny new things (a dark theme), not because they read or understood the proposal.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> The majority of the work needed appears to be content based, with a few design fixes. My "vote" has always been "this has nothing to do with monero-site workgroup (yet). Treat it like any other community ccs project". Meaning, more clearly figure out what is even beibg commissioned.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Agreeing to make this _the_ getmonero is misguided imho. We shouldn't be getting so far ahead of ourselves, putting the cart b4 the horse. Those decisions should come closer to completion.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Questions for now are what is the money going towards? Content, by who? Graphics, by who? Limited to Implementation of content and gfx?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> ..A marketing campaign 🫠? Paying a PR guy? Submitting it to festivals? Purchasing theater time?
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<basses:matrix.org> >proprietary movie? wot is that and how does that work
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<basses:matrix.org> >proprietary movie
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<basses:matrix.org> wot is that and how does that work
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<basses:matrix.org> I heard that someone proposed featuring monero to a movie but never showed it once in the entire movie, is it this one?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Yes
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<basses:matrix.org> lol L
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> "monero", the word, isnt even in the script
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Bitcoin is though
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<basses:matrix.org> someone could sue
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<rbrunner7:monero.social> Oh, come on, you are unfair, the protagonist does flash a Monero "coin" once or twice. Very heavy with meaning, piques interest. Gives the film a whole new meaning :)
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> An M coin is not a "Monero" coin
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Could be an upside down wownero coin
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<rbrunner7:monero.social> Ah, I see. Yeah, maybe a Wownero movie after all. Very sneaky.
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<rbrunner7:monero.social> How much more boring the history of Monero would be without episodes like this one. And hey, nobody *forced* anybody to donate.
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Netflix gave is a real plug
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Just like the website ccs, right? Except the votes here are 11:1 instead of 7:7
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Geonic was merged with dekiverables of 1. "pay to distribute my movie snd pay people to watch my movie" 2. "win at any small festival so i can pay people to market my movie some more"
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Anyway, offtopic (movies).
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> the relevant part is that one of these ccs had little to no objections and is open source, while the other was 3x more expensive and funds used entirely for personal gain
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<basses:matrix.org> interesting, you watched it?
libremdb.iket.me/title/tt15264452
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<basses:matrix.org> this is an imdb privacy frontend
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 😅 nope. Havent watched it
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<basses:matrix.org> I feel like discussing WEBLATE is more important rn than website redesign
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<basses:matrix.org> there's always people asking wtf is happening with Weblate when they try to translate monero componenets.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> One of my points above is that the ccs website isn't really a workgroup discussion because there is no guarantee that we will actually use the resulting website.. and its not a workgroup project.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> weblate rests with SyntheticBird: in trying to recover the broken db
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Spent an entire meeting on 1 ccs. And new agenda is supposed to talk about it again. Such a waste of resources imo
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> The biggest thing going for the ccs is probably doing away with jekyll, starting eith a clesnsn ate (..and adding a dark mode)
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> The biggest thing going for the ccs is probably doing away with jekyll, starting with a clean slate on tl strings / removing cruft ..and adding a dark mode. (I wonder "will there be a light mode" 🙃)
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<basses:matrix.org> The only thing that website redesign is useful for is removing enhacement table language
github.com/monero-project/monero-si…lob/master/get-started/faq/index.md this will prevent anyone new to monero to contribute
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Theres a learning curve but not too bad to bad i dont think
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Dw. Docs dont use em
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (yet) :D lolol
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<basses:matrix.org> the one that only less than 5% of visitors will look at?
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> No, the new monerodocs.org
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<basses:matrix.org> yeah it is still "docs" who looks at any documentation?
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Docs.getmonero.org
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> currently at 9.md.monerodevs.org
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> docs even has download instructions
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<basses:matrix.org> forced reading
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I just reread this 😂
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> YOU DO lmao. You're the king of pointing out doc errors
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<basses:matrix.org> you mean having outdated copyright year?
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<basses:matrix.org> also tf is qertoip.com?
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<basses:matrix.org> sorry, you provoked me
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> The old maintainer
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> the this hasnt been updated yet
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<basses:matrix.org> inherited that skill 🔥
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you’re forgetting the monero song in the strip
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club, courtesy of crypt0_bear
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<basses:matrix.org> proud about commiting copyright infrigment
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<321bob321:monero.social> Sounds like magic ©️ on copied docs
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<321bob321:monero.social> Sounds like new age people issue.” Plz sir hand it on a silver plater”
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<321bob321:monero.social> Every other day someone asks about monerod issue they have.
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<321bob321:monero.social> Getmonero.orgy is useless for that
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<basses:matrix.org> need to upload docs on TikTok
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<321bob321:monero.social> Monero got a tiktok yet?