<q​uickex:matrix.org> Hey team! My name is Mike, I'm marketer of Quickex - online cryptoexchange. We already provide one of the best rates on Trocador and OrangeFren and would like to be listed in Merchants category on your website.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Hi Mike,

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> everyone seems to be in vacation today for an unknown reason. The website is being revamped and is still in design phase atm. You're the first one to ask directly for a marketing collaboration. We can't guarantee you anything as we haven't formalized this topic yet. At my understanding there will be people against listing centralized exchanges in the website. But this is something<clipped message>

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> we can definitely discuss next meeting (I think in two weeks)

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> cc: Diego Salazar

<q​uickex:matrix.org> We are not centralized exchange. Quickex is no kyc crypto exchange. So would be pleasure to discuss any questions you have regarding our service

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> From the community point of view, a centralized exchange is any exchange (fiat or crypto) that isn't decentralized in the p2p sense. I did understand you were a crypto exchange. i'm sorry if I confused you

<q​uickex:matrix.org> Got you. Anyway, hope that our current listings, presence on Monerica.com and activity in telegram Monero community give some loyalty

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Quickex has a pr on -site

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> quickex: i'm nahuhh

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I suggest people _read the prs_

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Nobody is on vacation

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> plowsof hardened and myself work everyday

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> monero-project/monero-site #2318

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> There haven't been any merges or deployments since you opened the pr

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> the sentence means there is low activity compared to other day bro. no need to take it to the word

<q​uickex:matrix.org> yes sir, thats our account as well for devs. I can log in from it in order not to confuse you

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No problem. I'm just letting you kniw that we havent forgotten about you. We just havent prioritized adding merchants until we have some community sentiment

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I personally tried your exchange (via trocador) and all went well

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> same, went well

<q​uickex:matrix.org> honestly super glad to hear that! Working hard on increasing trust and loyalty to our service

<r​ucknium:monero.social> [Offtopic]: ofrnxmr I think your xmr.mx user need to get into #monero-support:monero.social . I don't have the power to invite you.

<b​asses:matrix.org> plowof-hardned? where is that fork?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Nsfw

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> damn nsfw is everywhere these days

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> poor plow-hrdn

<b​asses:matrix.org> we should add a criteria at the bottom of this page getmonero.org/community/merchants

<b​asses:matrix.org> so people can know if they are elligable to be added

<b​asses:matrix.org> exchanges*

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> agree, should be discussed next meeting

<b​asses:matrix.org> should also add a warning on getmonero.org/resources/tools for "Address Generators"

<b​asses:matrix.org> appreciate the warning from monerotech.info

<b​asses:matrix.org> >This is a server-based app: If you enter your own "hot" seeds or secret keys anywhere the server could, in principle, spy on you or even steal all your coins. Any new seeds and keys are calculated on the server as well, not locally in your browser.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> We dont even list getmonero.org/generator

<b​asses:matrix.org> great

<b​asses:matrix.org> can download it as an offline file

<b​asses:matrix.org> >Based on code from MyMonero

<b​asses:matrix.org> lol

<b​asses:matrix.org> is moneroj.net accessible?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> no

<b​asses:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/FUwcvYvTMNjgrjsjbAsvJsTi

<b​asses:matrix.org> looks dead, should be removed from getmonero.org/resources/tools

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Morpheus:

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Theyve been under ddos with trocador

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> might not be dead

<b​asses:matrix.org> oh k :(

<b​asses:matrix.org> what about monerohash.com/nodes-distribution.html, working?

<b​asses:matrix.org> I'm using a VPN, check-host showing it works

<b​asses:matrix.org> blocks VPN/Tor?

<b​asses:matrix.org> website needs to get deployed as some revmovals are arleadt approved PRs from months ago

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> Hey guys

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> I think it's a njalla problem, I noticed earlier today as well

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> I tried to ssh into moneroj but failed

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> I'll try rebooting

<b​asses:matrix.org> tried incognet.io/?

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> Yeah I know incognet, I was just avoiding having to set up a new server haha

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> I'll debug today to see, but it might just be a njalla problem really

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> They are not very good

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Crunchbits

<c​ryptomorpheus_:matrix.org> Working again

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Diego Salazar can we have a forum ?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> forum.getmonero.org is beyond outdated

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and no one wants to use lemmy

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> forum.monero.space

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Just not yet. Impending v0.18.3.4 blog post by selsta. Best to wait till then, that way all merged PRs *and* point release blog post go live at the same time.

having some issue currently with macOS GUI which is delaying the release

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thx you sar

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Theres nothing stopping us from deploying twice aside from whether or not we want to ask bF to deploy twice

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I just want a single website with links from all the part of the community. Because Reddit really f*cked us good by banning everyone

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> now r/monero is a zombie town

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> We can see up a discourse or flarum?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 🔮 it will be dead

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Isn't that what hungouts in gm do?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> flarum works good with grapheneos

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> so i would say flarum

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> whats *hungouts in gm*

<b​asses:matrix.org> doesn't follow monero theme

<b​asses:matrix.org> librejo follows it

<b​asses:matrix.org> discourse

<b​asses:matrix.org> Discourse work great for everyone, better UI/UX plugins, themeing

<b​asses:matrix.org> privacyguides, techlore, all linux distros forums

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> BRUV.

<b​asses:matrix.org> most*

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Do you know how to read? getmonero.org/community/hangouts

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Its where you hang people out to dry

<b​asses:matrix.org> acronyms

<b​asses:matrix.org> gm = good morning

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Sick of forums…

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> No lol. Gm get monero. Context.

<b​asses:matrix.org> r/monero bonk

<b​asses:matrix.org> like tob feather

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Don't reinvent the wheel, sign up on forum.monero.space and build the network effect yourself.

<b​asses:matrix.org> who runs it? probably will last and functional better that gm guys

<b​asses:matrix.org> than*

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> xmrscott

<b​asses:matrix.org> lol

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Yeah…..nah

we had a forum back in the day, great for spam

oh we have a problem with macOS? how am I not surprised ?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> No surprise face?

nioCat: solved it already

some required tool I was using got decomissioned by Apple so I had to figure out how to use the replacement

someone please review for typos or other mistakes monero-project/monero-site #2354/files

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Just went through it quickly, initial glance looks all good. Marked as ready.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Didn't see any typoes or broken links. Useful if a couple others proofread too.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Lgtm

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> good to merge: 2342, 2321, 2333

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> confirm 2331 with bf

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> hardenedsteel: can you approve 2327 if all good

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 2326 should be good too

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 2335

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 2352

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 2347

do we care about saying contributors are largely unfunded when (apart from luigi) they all have open ccs' monero-project/monero-site #2354/files#r1723971062

i mean either we keep it or we remove it for all

i don't want to adapt it for each release depending on who contributed

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I just grabbed a sip of tea when i read that part

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 2342 (replace cake with monero.com), and 2318 (quickex) should be fine as well @plowsof

<b​asses:matrix.org> tf2 meme?

we can make it a seperate issue to create some universal statement if people have a problem with it (i dont have the stats to show that the majority of releases now have contributers that _are_ largely funded)

no reason to make the blog wait

<b​asses:matrix.org> will that blog force website deploy?

<b​asses:matrix.org> or just wait in the queue

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Kermit

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yes

<b​asses:matrix.org> thanks selsta for saving us

unless of course everyone says this is perfect and it replaces the statement in every blog within the next 60 seconds "This release was made possible by the efforts of 8 contributors who dedicated their time and skills, whether funded through the Community Crowdfunding System (CCS) or through voluntary contributions"

<b​asses:matrix.org> why even mention CCS?

'you can be paid to contirbute??? BRB'

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> tsmt

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Because it currently says "unpaid"

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> better to just remove the paid/u oaid altogether next time

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Inclusivity

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Volunteers are are appreciated as paid contributors

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> very progressive 😎

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> very progressive 😎

<b​asses:matrix.org> probably don't want to deter anyone contrivuting because they just want to fix some bug or improve something without applying at monero glassdoor

they could be funded through <any> platform, so its a tricky one to have to mention the known/unknown platforms

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yeah. I'm all for removing the line altogether next time (even retroactively)

<b​asses:matrix.org> agree with this

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> `This release was the direct result of 8 people who worked, largely unpaid and altruistically, to put out 39 commits containing 535 new lines of code. We'd like to thank them very much for their time and effort. In no particular order they are:` to `This release was the direct result of 8 people who put out 39 commits containing 535 new lines of code. We'd like to thank them very <clipped message>

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> much for their time and effort. In no particular order they are:`

let's change it next time

already sent everything to bF

<b​asses:matrix.org> lol

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Perfect

<b​asses:matrix.org> don't want to overwhelm the pigeon carrying message to bf

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Pigeons is a different person 😝

yep for another time, not last minute thing. thanks selsta

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> why next time?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Because bf is about to merge and deploy

have to come to a consensus on what to do. i should have raised the issue sooner

pretend i didnt mention it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its like Christmas

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And next time is good consensus. Hopefully we'll have quicker merges and deployments now

im not interested in replacing cake with monero dot com

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> why not note both

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> just add monero.com aside cake wallet

that PR didnt go well

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> oh

in the thread i offer a dumb suggestion of keeping cake but changing the URL to monero dot com lol

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ok 2007 ended up badly. can we retry this time ?

are we going to start going through the list of wallets and replacing them with a monero only (or close to) version? why? some users want less apps

stack wallet has a stack duo for example monero-project/monero-site #2081

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thats fair

(the list of wallets is small enough to actually go through them and do that lol)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> <p​lowsof> im not interested in replacing cake with monero dot com << the idea here is that came is a multiwallet, monero.com is a monero wallet. We are still linking to cakewallet.com in the pr

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> <p​lowsof> in the thread i offer a dumb suggestion of keeping cake but changing the URL to monero dot com lol << lololol plowsof is the opposite 😆

oh i see

where am i

do they list monero dot com wallet here though cakewallet.com

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> yes

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And cakewallet.com isnt behind cloudflare captcha

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Cakewallet.com also has link to fdroid repo

stackwallet duo yes or no?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Duo isnt maintained to the lvl of stack

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Duo is also still a muktiwallet

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> So idk if id bother recommending duo over stack. If stack made a monero-only version, yes. They have epiccash-only and firo-only wallets, duo is btc+xmr

so stack dont care about the almost monero only wallet in their line :-o

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yeah. Lol. Ppl complain a lot about duo not getting updates. I think its up to date now, but for a while it went without a release

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> poor rehrar

ok so an outsider could say we're working for cake and pumping both their business ventures (the original cake and their new* monero dot com wallet)

also someting to consider

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> nah, more that we consider cake a shitcoin wallet now

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> i use cake too... just not for xmr

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> multicoin wallets are less secure imo

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I think the *we* in *we consider* is inaccurate

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> not just talking about myself

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> lot of people still respect and use cake wallet for xmr and other

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> A shitcoin wallet = the coins they support and the focus of the wallet

it is both a "punishment" and a "reward" to cake

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> depends on the wallet implementation, but generally yes there is more attack surface

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> nothing WRONG with it, but we asked for a monero-only wallet

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I have cake, monero.com, stack wallet, mysu, anonero and xmruw installed

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> i dont use cake for xmr

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> i use cake for ccs and generalfund view keys*

i admit my cake wallet knowledge is probably a year + old

has something major happened ( added way more coins? sentiment changed?)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Nano, tron, solana, polygon, eth

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> If stack made a monero-only wallet (that was kept up to date), id want tk replace stack wallet with the monero-only version

there is no merge list so dont worry about getting things into the release deploy

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> firo, for example, doesnt recommend stack. They recommend campfire (or whatever its called)

interesting

edge wallet sips tea

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> github.com/firoorg/campfire/releases/tag/v2.0.1

>_> <_<

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Edge wallet needs tk be removed

ok thanks this is all new info

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ships trackers

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> github.com/cypherstack/stack_duo <<2 months since update on master

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I want to ask the question here just in case someone knows but who tf manage automoderator on r/monero. This bot is still spreading proprietary spyware wallets

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> its been years now

we can raise the concern to debruyne

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Its a conspiracy

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> github.com/cypherstack/epic-mobile

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Tldr: stack wallet is better than stack duo due to support.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> monero.com and cake share the same repo and are updated simultaneously. All else being equal, I'd personally prefer prioritize "pure" monero wallets over multiwallets