<3​21bob321:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/lSVEMdBFArjjsrKQRQLxnJrx

<3​21bob321:monero.social> you know 5 out of the 7 are bad for privacy

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> facebook already dead

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Twit, reddit, fb, github, telegram, discord, matrix and irc

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > <@321bob321:monero.social> sent an image.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Twit, reddit, fb, github, telegram, discord, lemmy, matrix and irc

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I think all are

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> erm akshually, durov said that Telegram was the best privacy messenger

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and since the CIA is after him he is right

<b​asses:matrix.org> clipboard.png

<b​asses:matrix.org> They are too dumb

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> least glowie kim tweet

<c​hch3003:monero.social> Well, I am not looking charts on coinmarketcap. Also, look at XMR/BTC

<c​hch3003:monero.social> Well, I am not looking charts on coinmarketcap. I suppose you don't know technical analysis.

<c​hch3003:monero.social> Also, look at XMR/BTC

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> idk what you're looking to but its not from coinmarketcap and its XMR/BTC chart

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 39000% more to go folks

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Or btc can fall by 99.75% 🔥

<c​hch3003:monero.social> I can be wrong but I believe we will breakout the 2 years range soon and surperform BTC

<c​hch3003:monero.social> We suffered enough!!

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Until 18.5m xmr is worth more than 19.5m btc, i dont think we've "broken out"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 1xme = 1xmr and SHOULD = 1.1btc

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Anyone selling 1xmr for 0.0002 btc is simple insane and loves to be taken advantage of.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Someone's going to whack me for being offtopic

<q​uickex:matrix.org> do you use reddit? seems like mass block there

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> they block tor users

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ive been banned from reddit for yrs

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You can use monero.town

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Were having a meeting right now in #monero-community:monero.social

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You should come sit in

<q​uickex:matrix.org> havent used tor, still banned(

<q​uickex:matrix.org> audio call or just texting?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Text

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> spirobel: hi

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Stack only supports sending and receiving of Solana atm. ETH sending and receiving of ETH as well as ERC-20s.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I know that's very limited but it's all we got right now.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Now onto website stuff

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I don't think there was any serious consideration given to things like Wordpress given its security issues. Or anything with a dynamic backend, really.

<b​asses:matrix.org> Hey guys, I have written a Monero wallet criteria.

<b​asses:matrix.org> Minimum Requirements:

<b​asses:matrix.org> * doesn't require any PII (Personally Identifiable Information)

<b​asses:matrix.org> * non-custodial wallet

<b​asses:matrix.org> * must receive regular updates.

<b​asses:matrix.org> * client must be open source

<b​asses:matrix.org> * No tracking / can opt-out

<b​asses:matrix.org> * Can lock wallet with passcode & encrypts database

<b​asses:matrix.org> Best Case:

<b​asses:matrix.org> * software received a security audit

<b​asses:matrix.org> * provides hashes and binaries are signed

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> name me a reproducible xmr wallet lmao

<b​asses:matrix.org> feather

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> aside from wallet cli and gui

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> and feather ofc

<b​asses:matrix.org> reminder you are looking at "Best Case:"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Socks support has nothin 2 do with monero

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Providing hashes doesnt either

<b​asses:matrix.org> bruh it is a criteria for wallet

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> security audit

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Stack and cake had monero_c audited

<b​asses:matrix.org> by who?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> by cyoherstack

<b​asses:matrix.org> cool

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> audit/reviewed Diego Salazar: to confirm which

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its not

<b​asses:matrix.org> wym? lol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "Lets delist everything mobile"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> How do u provide hashes for iphone

<b​asses:matrix.org> hence why "best case"

<b​asses:matrix.org> you don't necessarily need to meet those, but it would be great if it does

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Brb

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Driving

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> i spend a lot of time looking into wordpress security. wordpress core is solid. even sqli will be limited in scope because of all the defenses. if you dont install lots of garbage plugins it is going to be more secure than the current mess

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> it is dynamic too.. the ci is building this stuff. just slower. there is still a weak link that can be infiltrated.

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> use something like phantom or backpack. do onchain swaps of new memecoin shitters.. use pump fun

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> send and receive is practically useless if that is all the functionality that the wallet offers

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> most users will want to interact with dapps

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> you have to be turbo out of touch to not realize this

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> if we want to compete with this we need to go in the same direction or get fdd

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> monero will have some disjoint dex projects and thats it

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> that have to be built natively with complex toolchains for a plethora of platforms

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> we could just target the web instead and focus our energy

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Monero will have serai built into cake and that offers about everything you can do with xmr

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> send, receive, Swap, provide it as liquidity

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> so cake own monero. too much centralization that does not need to be

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> much better model to make it more open

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Cake is foss

everyone works for cake though

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Exvept rotten

oh, i thought we where in -offtopic sorry

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> And everyone can make their own serai powered monero wallet

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> just because something is foss does not mean it is not centralization

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> in practice if i fork cake 1. nobody would use it

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> if it catches on or my changes are good

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> they will just copy it and take all the rewards

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> game over cake has won

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> limited innovation

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> if you use solana for a bit you start to recognize the difference in UX. its super close to a CEX ux

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> in some ways it is better

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> and there is more variety

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> and it is only possible because they use the web as the basic platform

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> sure we can close our eyes and cook serai there and haveno there and ofrn cooks particlr

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> so you install 3 apps fractured liq. maybe trocador papers it over a bit

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> but that means we are more centralized than solana which is not good look

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> we shouldnt have to have a centralized web service with a hot wallet inbetween to connect all this stuff

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> and i dont buy that steiner will bring all of this in order with flutter and dart tomorrow

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> there are just fundamental limitations to these technologies that will never be overcome. google fired the flutter team for a reason. the ship is sinking for this platform.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> stack abd elite wallet forked cake

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> a lot of evm chains forked eth

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> a lot of bitcoin forks, forked bitcoin

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> case in point 5k downloads

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I dont believe in first mover = best or most uaed

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> agree

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Btc isnt used as much as ltc, eth isnt used as much as solana or tron

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> but web platform and dapp connect is just not going to be beaten. just my 2cents

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Elite is trash. Stack was very beta-ish until recently

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Idk which one has 5k downloads

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> it makes the iteration cycle super low. we practically have to rebuild everything from the bottom and with new p2p protocol just to flip some coins back and forth

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Mysu > monerujo and easily one of the best ive used, and was only available over tor and i2p

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> if we continue like this this shit is not going anywhere

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> thats my 2cents

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> cuz iteration cycle for innovation too slow

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> You just need to start a psyop

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> After you copied their entire wallet, so unfair

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> The decentralization of money is nothing without staking, dApps and web3!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Lmao what

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> 3 separate apps vs 1 and you say option 1 is more centralized?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> the decentralization of money is nothing without trustless decentralized exchanges.

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> and the ability to innovate on new wallet interaction UX without having to have the ressource of the largest player in the ecosystem

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> and the ability to innovate on new wallet interaction UX without having to have the resources of the largest player in the ecosystem

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> go to jup.ag . do what trocador does but completely trustless.

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> all of this shit works instantly

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> for sure you can clown on me here

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> He's always talking web3 nonsense and whining about financial matters, be nice to him.

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> he is taking computer literacy classes so he does not get scammed again, be nice to him.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Yeah bcs it's on Solana

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> lets talk dms

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> we dont need to shit up this channel

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Which has went down how many times, 11?

<b​asses:matrix.org> usually u would open a PR, no need to fork if they are willing to merge in.

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> thanks for explaining open source to be rando

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> thanks for explaining open source to me rando

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> do you have a github?

<b​asses:matrix.org> yes/no why?

<b​asses:matrix.org> hopefully it is not dick measuring contest

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> github.com/spirobel pls give me a follow thanks

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> show us your weiner

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> yeah okay cake does not merge the PR. what do you do next rando ?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> join elite and stacks wallet

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> creme de la creme on google play

<b​asses:matrix.org> you fork it, unless there are a lot of changes you want to make, so you make your own wallet

<b​asses:matrix.org> they won't be able to "steal" your changes that easily

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> take over the world.

<b​asses:matrix.org> you want sarcasm or being serious rn?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> nah i am not serious because I doubt you are able to understand my point even if I explained it in every single autistic detail

<b​asses:matrix.org> talking in that way makes you feel better?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> the fact that browser wallet UX is superior to 1000 half baked abondonware projects littered all over the community is self evident

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> yeah it is healing

<b​asses:matrix.org> 💊

<b​asses:matrix.org> and?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> yeah so instead of your plan of forking cake / building your own p2p protocol and building a native app for iphones, android, mac linux and windows ... you just deploy one webapp

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> which ecosystem wins?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> first or second

<b​asses:matrix.org> lol you think webapps are superior?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> you think an ecosystem is going to win where you have to do all this garbage (and never be able to finish it properly) instead of deploying one webapp?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> just to innovate on one small thing?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> in monero you have to practically be a cake employee and get thumbs up from daddy vik or you can basically gtfo with your innovations

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> thats what I mean by centralization around cake

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> if it cant be used within cake 99% of monero users will never see it

<b​asses:matrix.org> Sure, lets build non reproducible website that might turn one day to steal all users data, and increase attack vector

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> nah you misunderstand

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> these apps are non custodial

<b​asses:matrix.org> lol

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> and they get only limited abilities to execute transactions

<b​asses:matrix.org> website can be served with malicious JS

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> owww we have another expert developer here

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> link github or fuck off

<b​asses:matrix.org> can you stop whining?

<b​asses:matrix.org> meds

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> can you stop being stupid

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> whats your favorite programming language:?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> do you know anything?

<b​asses:matrix.org> HTML of course

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> thats a markup language

<b​asses:matrix.org> no shit sherlock

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> English

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> what is your favorite programming language rottenwheel ? 😄

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Docs.getmonero.org behind cloudflare ❤️🔥

<b​asses:matrix.org> no problem

<b​asses:matrix.org> you are not entering user credentials there

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> rando our new cypherpunk expert here

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Do as you preach, retard.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Im working hard to unknowingly plant these backdoors tho

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> almost as much of an expert as rottenwheel

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Rotten cant even edit screenshots. He hs me on ignore. You guys are unlucky

<b​asses:matrix.org> plowsof thoughts?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> did you write this with ai?

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> you should be our new project manager here monero inc

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> you are hired

<b​asses:matrix.org> too many Monero heros wannabe nowadays

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> you should be our new project manager here at monero inc

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> true. glad we have a true expert like rando on board now

<b​asses:matrix.org> I never muted someone before, because I always knew that meds can fix people

<b​asses:matrix.org> you got vaxxed?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 1. Yes

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 2. Of course

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 3. No.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 4. Yes

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 5. At least mush ship a trackerless version

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 6. If you trust the passcode. I broke cakes b4

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> best case?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> - no

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> - no

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> - no

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> - no

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> no fr plowsof maybe ban this rando guy he seems ai generated

<b​asses:matrix.org> 🤣

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I did, and what

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> hey everyone show vax passport to officer rando immediately

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> We already follow these standards

<b​asses:matrix.org> 3, 4 (opt out) in setup etc, 6 can you elaborate?

<b​asses:matrix.org> hidden exactly where?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> cake had a passcode > i bypassed it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> In my heart

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> We just dont delist stuff bcuz its work and ppl argue about merit

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Also

<b​asses:matrix.org> 3,4?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Wallet must exist for or 6mth, and be recommended by community

<b​asses:matrix.org> and you seem to not still get the idea of how a criteria works?

<b​asses:matrix.org> "best case"

<b​asses:matrix.org> I already explained above

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> who tf are you btw?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 3 = monerujo does major version upgrades and maintains functionality. You cant extort them (and their userbase) by threatning to delist just bcuz they dont want to implement socks proxy

<b​asses:matrix.org> minimium is what should all be checked, "best case" no

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Too many ofrn alts nowadays.

<s​pirobel:kernal.eu> i am intrigued by your knowledge and wisdom rando

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I was driving, but best case = my opinion for bonus points = irrelevant

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> This idiot

<b​asses:matrix.org> how?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> because they dont make or break anything

<b​asses:matrix.org> bruh it is not "bloat" or whatever idea you have in your head

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If a wallet has none, its not a blocker, it has all, its not a merge

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The top list of blockers is all that matters

<b​asses:matrix.org> idk on what order wallets are listed, but if some meets one of these bonuses it will be order higher than others

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If a wallet is foss, community tested, not brand new, ships a version w/o trackers, then it should be listed

<b​asses:matrix.org> in what*

<b​asses:matrix.org> yeah, so?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Forcing a passcode is nonsense. do we have to rm -rf cli wallet?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Alphabetical

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> look at merchants page

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Where you can see DEX and p2p

<b​asses:matrix.org> anyone have other opinions?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> its not my opiniob

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cli wallet does nkt require a password/passcode

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cant make rules for every wallet and then make an exception for cli

<b​asses:matrix.org> I doubt I will try to make a criteria for the merchant page

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I mean

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The "best case" is just liated next to them

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "open source? Onion available? Non custodial?"

<b​asses:matrix.org> we can move passcode to "best case"

<b​asses:matrix.org> easy

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Anyway i agree with

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> - foss

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> - noncustodial

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> - uses standard tx generation

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> - we only link to trackerless version

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> - not brand new / in use by community for 6+ months

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cake's background sync used to unlock the spend keys to sync in the background

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I called them out for it 100x, and got pitchforked by the community for giving them a hard time

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Eventually (recently) they rwkoved bg sync, but only did it because of bugs, not because of the security gaffs

<b​asses:matrix.org> depends on the severity of the issue, they can be removed from the listing, but need to contact them beforehand

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Not vik btw. if i had dealt with him directly, im sure hed have handled things promptly. His team wanted to act stupid about it tho

<b​asses:matrix.org> well, monero.com have google tracker

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No it doesnt (?)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Oh the website?

<b​asses:matrix.org> yes

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I think that is part of why i wanted to link to cakewallet.com instead

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> monero-project/monero-site #2342#pullrequestreview-2233984922

<b​asses:matrix.org> sounds easier to just contact them to resolve this issue rather than pointing to a multi wallet

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> .... did you read the comment

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > Also cakewallet.com has fdroid link.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cakewallet.com and monero.com/wallets both offer cake and monero.com

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cmon rando

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Why u making me copy paste

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Both websites offer both wallets. Makes no difference which one we link to

<b​asses:matrix.org> was replying to

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And dont tell me whats easier

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i literally fight with these nerds for weeks/months

<b​asses:matrix.org> ah ok

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> easier to just ignore their stupidity and do the sane option

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> easier to just ignore their stubbornness and do the sane option

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They added a "status bulletin" that would call come to cake over clearnet

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Asked them nicely and quietly to revert that bs, and they make it "opt out". So i asked again a bit louder and they didnt like my tone, so i called for it to be removed from getmonero, and ppl like SyntheticBird: put me in the bad actor category

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Now they made this _useless_ feature opt in. All because they are hardheaded

luigi1111: are you available again to update hashes.txt.sig?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its still clearnet, still contacts cakewallet.com regardless of whether youre using any of their services. Totally stupid feature

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Everybody, get back on topic. The boss is here

<b​asses:matrix.org> Good, that they made it opt out

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Under strict criteria, i would say it would be fair and proper to promptly delist any wallet if they added a new feature that called home

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They made it opt in* after i made a big fuss

<b​asses:matrix.org> if they insist on not making it opt in

<b​asses:matrix.org> (disabled by default)

<b​asses:matrix.org> incase of new update, should be prompted with a toggle

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Opt out is stupid. Why should my fully privatw wallet, wirh fiat and exchanges disabled, using my own node, start connecting to cakewallet everytime i open my wallet

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And the only was id know, is to run a sniffer

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Should be, but wasnt (and still isnt). They just turned it on for everybody in an update

<b​asses:matrix.org> remember you are listing someone's else wallet, if you don't like something you point it out, they won't follow anyone roadmap etc

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its opt-in now though

<b​asses:matrix.org> otherwise just list Monero developed wallets and have no mobile wallet

<b​asses:matrix.org> then forget about it lol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its not about like/dislike

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> its about "surprise" doxxing users

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> What if i live somewhere that crypto is illegal, and now my isp see's me connecting to cake everyday?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And i dont even know that its happening?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No. They did this more than once

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Stacks INITIAL release did this, but they added a first-run setting that allows you to choose "incognito" mode (disables all external services)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If stack just decided to add a new service that ignored incognito, id call the out as well

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Im not mad with cake about it, im saying that, in principle, i think a wallet should be delisted if they pull stunts like that

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (for at least as long as the stunt is active)

<b​asses:matrix.org> great, stack wallet saving their asses

<b​asses:matrix.org> but their Duo wallet barely gets updates

<b​asses:matrix.org> Diego Salazar Duo wallet is even mentioned on the website?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No

<b​asses:matrix.org> bruh

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Stack was just listed recently

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> It's not on the getmonero.org website no

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> It's updated less frequently because many of our Stack updates update other coins like ETH or Namecoin, which don't affect Duo.

<b​asses:matrix.org> stackwallet

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> soon diego will release `Stack XMR`

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Or some more creative name

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> oh, Stack Wallet is on the getmonero.org website now

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes it is

<b​asses:matrix.org> where? only blog posts

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cant you do like cake, and build all releases at the same time?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> On the wallets page

<b​asses:matrix.org> stackwallet.com/index.html#download

<b​asses:matrix.org> Duo???/

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> oh, youre looking for duo on stackwallet.com

<b​asses:matrix.org> yes

<b​asses:matrix.org> not there :(

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Also

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> getmonero.org/downloads

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> tf happened here

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I dont see stack

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> monero-project/monero-site #2081

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> deploy-preview-2081--barolo-time-757cf9.netlify.app/downloads

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I dont even see it on the or preview 🤔

<b​asses:matrix.org> clipboard.png

<b​asses:matrix.org> gm sir

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ah

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The pr was incomplete

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Didnt add line 297

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I didnt review it, so dont blame me 😂

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Diego, do you want to fix it or should i take a jab at it

<b​asses:matrix.org> also mention Duo on the website?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No

<b​asses:matrix.org> stackwallet.com

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Either or, I'm out atm until the evening

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Does Cake also have monero.com?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> no

<b​asses:matrix.org> yes

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> People might get upset if they don't and I have both

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> We rejected cake for having both

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> One or the other

<b​asses:matrix.org> clipboard.png

<b​asses:matrix.org> I mean on stack website so people can find it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Id prefer a monero-only wallet, or the better maintained one, so in this case its stack wallet

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cake only has cake listed on getmonero, but there is a pr to replace cake with monero.com

<b​asses:matrix.org> pink promise from stack team to maintain Duo and have both?

<b​asses:matrix.org> pinky*

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Rando is referring to stackeallet.com though

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ill go for it

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> ah yeah, Duo on stackwallet.com is something I've been meaning to do, for sure. I'm just.....extremely busy. :P

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> But yes, I need to get my butt in gear regarding that.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> You prefer Duo rando ?

<b​asses:matrix.org> yes

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Monero only 🙃 yes yes? Pls

<b​asses:matrix.org> but depends on how you buy monero, you might need stack wallet

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I think bitcoin only and monero only are better than duo

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I dont use bitcoin and likely never will

<b​asses:matrix.org> which I think swap LTC to Monero is most popular way

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Also dont need electrum stuff in my wallet

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> If stack builds anything like cake, you _should_ be able to disable other coins from being included at build time, and only maintain one codebase

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (no need for a stack duo or stack xmr etc repo)

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Duo is stuffed for me, now it just shows syncing with my node, no block left or progress

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Diego Salazar: does stack support hw wallets

<3​21bob321:monero.social> I tried with cake its works

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Did you try "rescan blockchain"

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Yep

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Yes. We have a fix coming in a couple of days. Sorry.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Not yet.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> deploy-preview-2365--barolo-time-757cf9.netlify.app/downloads

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Merry christmas

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> monero-project/monero-site #2365

where's wally, i can't see what this changes. is it meant to add Stack wallet under the hardware wallet lists?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> no

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its not on getmonero website

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The original pr was incomplete

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> This adds it to the remote sync section

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> monero-project/monero-site #2081

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> deploy-preview-2081--barolo-time-757cf9.netlify.app/downloads

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> getmonero.org/downloads

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Original pr, original preview, live website == not listed

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> monero-project/monero-site #2365

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> deploy-preview-2365--barolo-time-757cf9.netlify.app/downloads

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> new pr, new preview == listed

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> should also add Desktop. When the PR was made there was no desktop cuz Windows didn't work but now it does.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I forgot about that.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I'll do that when I get home

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I think that section includes desktop

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yeah, cake, feather, monerujo

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> ah you mean the X on desktoo

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> what os does it work for, ill fix now

iirc cakewallet works on tails an others. waddup wit dat

also ofrnxmr has discovered the secret mobile page view, where we didnt list stack wallet oops

so mobile users cant see that stack wallet is available Diego pls forgive us

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Used cheat code?

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Yeah I noticed a while ago too. Forgot about it. Too busy.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> definitely

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> What os on desktop

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> You mean what OS is Monero supported in Stack?

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> Windows, MacOS, Linux. All of them.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> done

Yes soon

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> selsta

nice

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Visiting ccs.getmonero.org/funding-required gives an error. ccs.getmonero.org:8080/funding-required

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Just type it in your browser URL bar, without www. or https://

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Wen fix ser? Diego Salazar

<b​asses:matrix.org> I think because they website forces HSTS?

<b​asses:matrix.org> the*

<b​asses:matrix.org> so on port 8080 or http it wont work?

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> ccs.getmonero.org/funding-required -> works

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> ccs.getmonero.org/funding-required -> doesnt work

its just ccs.getmonero.org/what-is-ccs vs ccs.getmonero.org/what-is-ccs nothing to see here folkd

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I do literally everything around here.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They both work for me

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> > SSL_ERROR_RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> > `SSL_ERROR_RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG`

<b​asses:matrix.org> serverfault.com/questions/351212/ng…80-when-accessing-url-without-slash

<b​asses:matrix.org> cap

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Maybe matrix fixed rhe links

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cuz i clicked em and they loaded

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ye matrix adds http

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Etm

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Still worked for me breh

<b​asses:matrix.org> visit URL without "/" at the end of the url

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I removed http

<b​asses:matrix.org> ccs.getmonero.org/funding-required

Siren / Stnby also reported this, they offered a reason but i forget

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ye i did that

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Try it on mobile

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Maybe yall desktop browsers just suck

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> On desktop it fails

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Even in tor browser

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Doesnt even hit the cloudflare gate

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Siren: Stnby:

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/XONLCApqnRbEjqmqPZicRRjr

<h​ardenedsteel:monero.social> TLS 1.3 isnt supported?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Sounds like nginx has a / in or smthn

<3​21bob321:monero.social> fractal doesnt like that file type

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> < HTTP/2 301

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> < date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 21:52:07 GMT

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> < content-type: text/html

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> < location: ccs.getmonero.org:8080/funding-required

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> People don't know how to configure Nginx and I don't blame them. Its a shitty web server with an illogical config and no sane defaults. They should use Caddy or reach us at Digilol to help with it.

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> \< HTTP/2 301

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> \< date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 21:52:07 GMT

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> \< content-type: text/html

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> \< location: ccs.getmonero.org:8080/funding-required

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> People don't know how to configure Nginx and I don't blame them. Its a shitty web server/proxy whatever they call it now, with an illogical config and no sane defaults. They should use Caddy or reach us at Digilol to help with it.

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> \< HTTP/2 301

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> \< date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 21:52:07 GMT

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> \< content-type: text/html

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> \< location: ccs.getmonero.org:8080/funding-required

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> People don't know how to configure Nginx and I don't blame them. Its a shitty web server/proxy whatever they call it now, with an illogical config and no sane defaults. They should use Caddy or reach us at Digilol to help with it.

<s​tnby:kernal.eu> A small hint: port_in_redirect off;

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Dan Miller:

<3​21bob321:monero.social> free plug

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Dan Miller ^^

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Fkn echo

<3​21bob321:monero.social> neg should be

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Diego Salazar>Dan Miller

<3​21bob321:monero.social> then Dan Miller

I did it as a PR since we have a new plowsof

<b​asses:matrix.org> plowsof version that is written in Rust?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Luigi1111 so you need reviews ?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And wat happened to the old plowsof

.bbl

What do i need to do

okay

selsta monero-project/monero-site #2366

plowsof: how does that work now?

i also approved it

thanks

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Dan works for CS now!

<3​21bob321:monero.social> has to ping the manager > worker node

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Is CS composed of bots and computers now?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> seems like it

<3​21bob321:monero.social> danmiller runner