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<goexme:matrix.org> Hi guys 👋 What need to list non kyc non custodial exschange to monero site?
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<plowsof:matrix.org> thanks binaryFate !
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Explain
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<goexme:matrix.org> We have an exchange, and want to add to monero site
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> "An exchange" is a pretty name. Very creative
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<plowsof:matrix.org> goex.. go dex? maybe
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<plowsof:matrix.org>
goexme.io this one?
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<goexme:matrix.org> oh, you mean what the name?
goexme.io
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> How did you know?
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<plowsof:matrix.org> email address is @goexme:matrix.org
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> okok
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<plowsof:matrix.org> looks like
godex.io
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<plowsof:matrix.org> these cookie cutter exchanges
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Artur: how long have you been in business
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<321bob321:monero.social> 5mins
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> 2. How long have you had monero
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<goexme:matrix.org> godex its not ours) but you right) its looks similar
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> 3. Do you have your own reserves of monero, or do you use a cex on thr backend
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> 4. This IS custodial btw
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<plowsof:matrix.org> would help to make an issue here also
github.com/monero-project/monero-site/issues
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<goexme:matrix.org> more than 3 years
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> You might nlt custody the funds, but, even worse, your CEX partner is
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<goexme:matrix.org> monero is our flagman coin, 70% of our volume is monero. We had it from start
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<goexme:matrix.org> 3. Now we have 3 CEX via api, but we are going to our liquidity in pairs BTC/XMR, XMR/USDT.
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<goexme:matrix.org> 4. we do exchange via api, but we works with our nodes
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Xmr/btc currently uses your reserve? Or future?
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<plowsof:matrix.org> maybe bestchange have their facts wrong (1 year 9 month)
bestchange.com/goexme-exchanger.html
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Which 3 cex have xmr
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<goexme:matrix.org> We have long wanted to abandon CEX, but so far we cannot find a solution that would allow us to exchange large volumes with the lowest commission and the best rate
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<goexme:matrix.org> Kucoin, HTX , MEXC
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<goexme:matrix.org> no, we didn't show up there right from the opening
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<plowsof:matrix.org> yes, 6 months on bestchange, but they say you are 1 year 9 month old
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<goexme:matrix.org> small exchanges via our liquidity, less than 0.5 BTC
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<plowsof:matrix.org> (i find the reviews funny but thats the name of the game i guess... no negative ones currently)
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<goexme:matrix.org> need make request?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Better to create a pull request
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<plowsof:matrix.org> we can put all this info in one place then, just easier for us
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> See here for an example
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<goexme:matrix.org> we are working with reviews, of course there are negative ones, but we always resolve them with clients
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Usually i like to see some feedback from monero community members about their experiences with the exchange
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<goexme:matrix.org> I understand that such requests take a very long time to be processed?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> ^
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<plowsof:matrix.org> minimum amount of btc to xmr is 0.1929 btc, is that an interesting metric?
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<plowsof:matrix.org> 0.1754*
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<goexme:matrix.org> monero members usually don't like to be seen 🤭
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Quickex was relatively unheard of, but is ranked well on trocador and has had a few testimonials from users here.
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<plowsof:matrix.org> minimum bch to xmr, is 35.55 or so , come on man
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> No litecoin?
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<plowsof:matrix.org> 148 min for ltc
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<plowsof:matrix.org> lol
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Minimum 56xmr for xmr > bch
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> NACK unless you adjust these minimums by an order or magnitude or 2
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<goexme:matrix.org> ranges are adjusted manually, now we are testing hypotheses on the minimum rate
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Minimum $10000 USD, basically
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> 🚮
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<plowsof:matrix.org> compare yourself to the competition @ trocador.app , now, this is not to say 'OTC' is bad.. a min of 5-10k is standard there
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Adjusted to $10000usd 😂
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> this isnt OTC. This is kucoin/htx/mexc
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<goexme:matrix.org> Do decentralized solutions work now? We looked into this 2 years ago, but there was nothing
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Artur: if i do this exchange, it will work, right? About to test now
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<plowsof:matrix.org> i mean, i laugh but the site says it is possible
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<plowsof:matrix.org> so you want to be listed right now?
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<goexme:matrix.org> you can try) we can do it
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> ok, 1 sec while i.. gfu
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> ok, 1 sec while i.. gfy
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<plowsof:matrix.org> don't make an issue/pull request , would be a waste of your time
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> NACK scammer
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Make the pull request, so we can close it
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<goexme:matrix.org> I wanted to understand what the requirements are for this kind of exchangers, and also to understand what the Monero community lacks in order to make the best service and be on the Monero website as an exchange provider
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<plowsof:matrix.org> of course, artur could be a competitor of goexme, and they have not announced xmr support officially. and this is a rouse
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> "we can do it". Yeah? and i have a bridge in california i'd like to sell
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Not being a scammer is #q
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> #1
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Thanks for playing.
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<goexme:matrix.org> why you think I am a scammer?🙄
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Kucoin, mexc and htx dont have 40kxmr (7 million usdt) and wont send that amount either. Super scam
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<plowsof:matrix.org> a no kyc trace for 7 million usdt for monero using CEX's for liquidity?
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<basses:matrix.org> Criteria sirs
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Rando #1 no scamming
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<goexme:matrix.org> day volume only in Kucoin is 6 mln USDT
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<plowsof:matrix.org> ofrnxmr: why only 7 million?
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<basses:matrix.org> yes
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<basses:matrix.org> but should be obvious
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Max is 9.5mill
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<plowsof:matrix.org> reasonable
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I only have 7M in usdt
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<plowsof:matrix.org> rando please share your obvious criteria
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> The rest of my funds are in ZANO
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<goexme:matrix.org> this is a floating value, depends on the order book on the exchanges
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Show me 9.5m usdc/xmr liquidity please
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<basses:matrix.org> I didn't create a one for merchants/exchanges
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<plowsof:matrix.org> i mean we do have loose criteria, but no 'achieve this this and this' and you'll be listed.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> i accept bribes
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<plowsof:matrix.org> a recent one, concerns over their AML policy where raised so something else to consider
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Thats #1 criteria
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Send my other account (plowsof) 10000xmr and we can list instantly
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<plowsof:matrix.org> do they use standard monero wallet implementation fee calcs also
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> They use exchanges directly
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> This NEEDS research. Trocsdor has a fee partners that dont use standard fees
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> The only way to find out of goex uses standard frees, is to send then $10000 usdz
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Ofrnxmr will not test
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<plowsof:matrix.org> so a minimum trade amount is clearly important to some
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<plowsof:matrix.org> fees? we can't keep track of every single trade so not a good metric
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<plowsof:matrix.org> exchange fees%
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> For a swapper, those high minimums are just low effort scamming
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Fee/byte
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Monero is standardized, 000020480000
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Some swappers use like 000022220000
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<basses:matrix.org> just search within the community and online about their reputation
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<basses:matrix.org> reddit etc
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Which clearly identifies the transaction as a swap from their exchange
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> The minimum is 10kusd. They have no rep
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<basses:matrix.org> has to be a joke
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> The max ks 9.5mill
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<basses:matrix.org> would surprised to be no KYC with that amount being the minimum
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Rando, test out the swapper for me
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Ill reimburse you if funds are lost. Try the 9.5m swap
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<basses:matrix.org> is it me or the ratings looks botted?
trustpilot.com/review/exme.io
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<basses:matrix.org> looks like there's a pattern
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<plowsof:matrix.org> i did say they looked "funny" but.... name of the game. competitors could even spam you with positive bogus reviews
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Cmon. Do you relly there 55 people sid exchanfes of 10k +?
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<basses:matrix.org> need a loan
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Maybe Artur: can send me 10k (+fees) worth of xmr to test with?
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<basses:matrix.org> looks like a russian exchange
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<basses:matrix.org> very old school
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<basses:matrix.org> animated gif advertising
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Ill test random swaps over the next 3 days. if successful ill return the funds
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> 884MftKiUYXfthz6zdGA9Y2vmjutee8ziLyArs4HX8qUAuS2RFgQSZcS5w1H6W7de9ETy5nr5u4Ldhwd2NVCabiHM936wZ9
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<basses:matrix.org> minimum $10k for any trade
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<basses:matrix.org> bruh
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<321bob321:monero.social> 999xmr is min bet
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Probably fbimerican
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<321bob321:monero.social> Looks like 90s logos
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> "send me an aml and sanction violation please"
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<basses:matrix.org> it is
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<321bob321:monero.social> Approved
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<321bob321:monero.social> To prove this, please show me your 5110
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<basses:matrix.org> ?
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<basses:matrix.org> code words
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<321bob321:monero.social> Fake 90s person
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<goexme:matrix.org> Are you serious?)
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm not willing to test with my own funds
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<goexme:matrix.org> 1. Lower the minimum volume
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<goexme:matrix.org> 2. Specify where exactly the figure of 9.5 mil comes from
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<goexme:matrix.org> 3. Drop a test amount for exchange
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<goexme:matrix.org> Did I miss anything? I'll ask the team these questions and get back to you with an answer.
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Sounds good
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> But start with #3. I'd like to see if these 10k swaps ever worked in the first place
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<goexme:matrix.org> ok , i will return asap
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<monerobull:matrix.org> oh boy do i have news for you: serai.exchange
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<monerobull:matrix.org> me too, ill list it on monero.town sidebar for $50k in XMR
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<goexme:matrix.org> it doesn't work
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<monerobull:matrix.org> well yeah, its not live yet
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<monerobull:matrix.org> but when its live, it will be great
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<goexme:matrix.org> yes, when it will launch?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> id say some time within the next 12 months
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<rottenwheel:kernal.eu> Will this issue ever have logs? An actual, up-to-date agenda, date of next meeting?
monero-project/meta #1049
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<rottenwheel:kernal.eu> Seemingly escape and I have been struggling to figure out when next one will be, for our newsletters...
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<rottenwheel:kernal.eu> Lol, issue reads August 11, it's September 5.
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its not sept 5
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Its sept 14th
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> That meeting was for sept 18th
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> That meeting was for aug 18th
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<321bob321:monero.social> Ask website ceo
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<hardenedsteel:monero.social> should we add local groups to hangouts? Monero Portugal, Brasil, Turkey etc.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> filter because some local are full of cheese pizza
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> Australia iirc
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> or Austria maybe
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<321bob321:monero.social> Good for doxxing
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<hardenedsteel:monero.social> doxx what?
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<321bob321:monero.social> I did create meetup.events for people to post meetups etc
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> anon don't go outside, sun hurts
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<321bob321:monero.social> Wear morp suit
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<hardenedsteel:monero.social> do you have link?
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> bro no
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> jk. I don't have, just someone made alerted on this room last week
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> I've never visited the channel
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<basses:matrix.org> 📷4k
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<basses:matrix.org> redeem all of your XMR
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<321bob321:monero.social> By sending me 999xmr