<diego:cypherstack.com> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/cypherstack.com/BFlLKRmXyUasUziQaDIpWEwm.jpg (isabella-monero-illustration-v3.jpg)

<diego:cypherstack.com> this one is a more paintery style

<diego:cypherstack.com> I'll be honest, I like the painters style. It gives things an analog type feel that other coins / sites don't have.

<diego:cypherstack.com> And we're trying to be "cash". Very tactile. Very analog.

<diego:cypherstack.com> @basses:matrix.org: She is literally not sexualized at all?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> How about we use a different image for localized website

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Nioc can have a cat theme for the nioc localization

<diego:cypherstack.com> who here remembers Monero Cat?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> The main thing i don't like about this, is the ledger and trezor > <@diego:cypherstack.com> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/cypherstack.com/BFlLKRmXyUasUziQaDIpWEwm.jpg (isabella-monero-illustration-v3.jpg)

<diego:cypherstack.com> cryptopop.net/who-is-monero-cat-episode-3-cryptopop

<diego:cypherstack.com> ah yes, we should make a Kastelo wallet ;)

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Enclosure* lmao

<diego:cypherstack.com> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/cypherstack.com/pzqueMsgvUEGEetXYYWuuqeE.png (image.png)

<diego:cypherstack.com> This direction mebbe

<diego:cypherstack.com> KnifeofPi once coded up an idea of mine of using the random numbers on each block to generate a unique piece of art per Monero block

<diego:cypherstack.com> this was before AI art became prevalent

<diego:cypherstack.com> I can't find his github. He may have completely disappeared. Sadge.

<rbrunner7> old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/83…ng_monero_project_render_the_entire

<rbrunner7> imgur.com/a/EvDtU

<321bob321> inception

<basses:matrix.org> it literally is, this reply is even a proof that it perhaps differs from a culture to another. I don't know how you even came up with this illustration when you know that monero community is very large diverse. > <@diego:cypherstack.com> She is literally not sexualized at all?

<basses:matrix.org> unnecessary as now we will judge what culture prefers having a sexualized image on their home page. > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> How about we use a different image for localized website

<redsh4de:matrix.org> It is possible to display different images based on the page locale, and i think should be done > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> How about we use a different image for localized website

<redsh4de:matrix.org> Cultural differences are important to account for

<redsh4de:matrix.org> Imo the concept of a character itself could be kept, as a mascot definitely adds something to the page, but perhaps adjusted to be more formal for select locales. No exposed midriff, calf-length skirt / baggy pants, extended sleeves until the wrists - something of that sort, so the mascot gives more "fintech professional" vibe [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/ka_Juc8KM1kzd2pz ]

<redsh4de:matrix.org> @redsh4de:matrix.org: mby even fully non-human... someone mentioned a Monero Cat, although i dont know about anthropomorphic animals if its considered "eh"

<basses:matrix.org> creating a mascot for wouldn't be an easy thing tbh.

<basses:matrix.org> @redsh4de:matrix.org: I don't mind animals or any non-human characters, anthropomorphic animals is probably something in 1910s and look very weird today's standard where everyone like cute and simple illustrations.

<basses:matrix.org> see zig, rust, Go

<redsh4de:matrix.org> zig do have a lil dino guy on their main

<redsh4de:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/vXjwaJMCCEvcknbsVsCHbEdE.png (image.png)

<redsh4de:matrix.org> mby smth more akin to that style

<basses:matrix.org> also proton.me/blog/product-updates/lumo

<redsh4de:matrix.org> dont mind that at all either - would just have to figure how to efficiently mirror the story of the image with the wallet choice, aquiring coins & spending, so it complements the right side well

<basses:matrix.org> I see dino mascots is very popular, what we could add to make it look different from others and has some sort of story relevant to Monero, see proton.me/blog/lumo-design

<321bob321> Cats for nioc

<basses:matrix.org> lumo cat looks so good

<basses:matrix.org> also nheko for some reason deleted 1 year worth of chat in this room

<321bob321> For security and privacy reasons

<basses:matrix.org> for dumb reasons, I hate just using element to see this chat

<basses:matrix.org> @redsh4de:matrix.org gomakethings.com/css-only-solutions-are-not-accessible

<basses:matrix.org> this is the broken link at end of article kelpui.com/docs/components/subnav/#enhanced-functionality

<redsh4de:matrix.org> Kelp uses JS for interactivity

<redsh4de:matrix.org> without JS there will always be some little tradeoff - fwiw the current dropdown behaviour is also present on the current site

<basses:matrix.org> @redsh4de:matrix.org: getmonero.org?

<redsh4de:matrix.org> yes, like the language dropdown

<redsh4de:matrix.org> @redsh4de:matrix.org: Maybe can try using the popover traits? They are relatively very new though

<redsh4de:matrix.org> caniuse.com/?search=popover

<redsh4de:matrix.org> should be fine if we target latest browser versions though

<basses:matrix.org> very new, Safari is always very slow

<basses:matrix.org> unless they are the one to come up with new implementation of a spec

<basses:matrix.org> getmonero-redesign-impl.vercel.app

<basses:matrix.org> so I can easily find it

<redsh4de:matrix.org> will also need to use anchor positioning for the popover, and that is even a newer thing > <@basses:matrix.org> very new, Safari is always very slow

<redsh4de:matrix.org> caniuse.com/css-anchor-positioning

<redsh4de:matrix.org> wouldnt work on ESR/Tor Browser out of the box

<basses:matrix.org> dont use gzip for ourwebsite breachattack.com

<redsh4de:matrix.org> Thats just Vercel iirc

<redsh4de:matrix.org> i'd use beta.monerodevs.org as the proper deployment example

<basses:matrix.org> @redsh4de:matrix.org: it doesn't use gzip

<basses:matrix.org> from website scan

<redsh4de:matrix.org> oh word just checked, thought it would be the other way around

<redsh4de:matrix.org> vercel uses brotli

<redsh4de:matrix.org> cc @plowsof:matrix.org

<basses:matrix.org> @redsh4de:matrix.org: I think it accepts multiple? Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br, zstd from your website

<basses:matrix.org> but it is not showing content-encoding for some reason

<basses:matrix.org> saw reddit comment saying brotli like u said

<redsh4de:matrix.org> sucks as this is the best modern way, but literally too new to work on Tor/ESR :/ > <@redsh4de:matrix.org> wouldnt work on ESR/Tor Browser out of the box

<redsh4de:matrix.org> can make it a github issue, put in some reference code that works - and then later in the future replace when anchor is available on ESR

<redsh4de:matrix.org> hopefully wouldnt take longer than a year

<basses:matrix.org> @basses:matrix.org: oh checked another request and it is br

<basses:matrix.org> we can set webserver to serve brotli

<basses:matrix.org> only

<basses:matrix.org> can we also remove the image "Start using Monero" for now until we find a suitable one for every one

i read everything and pretend not to if i have nothing valid to say

<basses:matrix.org> nothing from me >plowsof (192.169.4.20)

<basses:matrix.org> thanks

xD

<basses:matrix.org> I dont understand "Eliminate render-blocking resources" here tools.keycdn.com/speed?h=6932c92942c4226f1c0a6a82

<redsh4de:matrix.org> It's complaining that the .css is served as a seperate file instead of being inlined

<basses:matrix.org> weird

<basses:matrix.org> we should also enable DNSSEC

<basses:matrix.org> but I read that there are people against it

<redsh4de:matrix.org> +1 > <@diego:cypherstack.com> I'll be honest, I like the painters style. It gives things an analog type feel that other coins / sites don't have.

<redsh4de:matrix.org> @basses:matrix.org: what's the case for not using DNSSEC? the misconfig meaning instance outage concerns?

<basses:matrix.org> @redsh4de:matrix.org: "being government controlled"

<basses:matrix.org> and not an expert in anyway with this matter, perhaps someone here can elaborate

.merge+ 2402

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<redsh4de:matrix.org> @basses:matrix.org: Wait till they find out who controls the authoritative root servers xD

<basses:matrix.org> @redsh4de:matrix.org: yep, double standards

<basses:matrix.org> icann controls everything

<basses:matrix.org> you are basically just renting

<basses:matrix.org> I finally restored all messages in this room, thanks to clear-timeline command in nheko client

<basses:matrix.org> element electron craps suck

<diego:cypherstack.com> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/cypherstack.com/pmdvYXCHMiWqKoIOKVikKbqT.png (image.png)

<diego:cypherstack.com> we could go super conceptual

<diego:cypherstack.com> @basses:matrix.org ^ ehhhhh?

<diego:cypherstack.com> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/cypherstack.com/ymrYtdltvetNZoYmYwPRwvkx.png (image.png)

<redsh4de:matrix.org> i specifically like the story told by the original pic that complements the 3 steps on the right, that is really good and should be kept imo

<diego:cypherstack.com> I agree

<basses:matrix.org> looks good, but have you tried some non-human illustrations, irrc most of art your done is human-like. > <@diego:cypherstack.com> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/cypherstack.com/pmdvYXCHMiWqKoIOKVikKbqT.png (image.png)

<diego:cypherstack.com> I mean I can, yes.

<diego:cypherstack.com> But humans really ground a cypherpunk concept like Monero.

<redsh4de:matrix.org> fwiw the current page also is filled w/ a lot of human centric illustrations (and i agree on the cypherpunk part), but the cultural differences point is fair and should b accounted for

<redsh4de:matrix.org> i think just making a second version w/ a non-human character (same story & artstyle) and using it on select locales is a good way to address that

<redsh4de:matrix.org> isabella is the spiritual equivalent of monero-chan and she is the official unofficial monero mascot at this point... had a fleeting idea of community vote for a mascot or smth mby

<basses:matrix.org> @redsh4de:matrix.org: > second version w/ a non-human character (same story & artstyle) and using it on select locales is a good way to address that

<basses:matrix.org> for how many locales and how you are sure that default locale is the right one to have this mascot?

<redsh4de:matrix.org> @basses:matrix.org: 6-7 locale ids

<basses:matrix.org> this is much better than the non-official knock off monerochan > <@diego:cypherstack.com> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/cypherstack.com/pmdvYXCHMiWqKoIOKVikKbqT.png (image.png)

<diego:cypherstack.com> @basses:matrix.org: it's not even monero chan

<basses:matrix.org> @diego:cypherstack.com: knock off

<redsh4de:matrix.org> i do think its a nice nod

<diego:cypherstack.com> Isabella the Monero Girl has been a thing since like 2018

<diego:cypherstack.com> She is one of the few officially supported Sticker packs in Matrix after I submitted her there

<diego:cypherstack.com> txcity.io/v/xmr-btc

<diego:cypherstack.com> She's the representative in txstreet

<redsh4de:matrix.org> word just looked it up, even better

<redsh4de:matrix.org> mby just a more modest version then?

<diego:cypherstack.com> parka version

<basses:matrix.org> created by Cypher Stack

<diego:cypherstack.com> will take off the skirt and make the pants baggier

<diego:cypherstack.com> @basses:matrix.org: troo

<basses:matrix.org> redlib.catsarch.com/r/Monero/commen…abella_the_monero_girl_sticker_pack

<basses:matrix.org> cypherstack.com/isabella-monero-girl-stickers.html

<basses:matrix.org> this

<diego:cypherstack.com> She's CC bro

<basses:matrix.org> there are no other versions than this one, right?

<diego:cypherstack.com> @basses:matrix.org: no other versions of what?

<diego:cypherstack.com> The TX Street guy used her and I didn't care. She's CC.

<basses:matrix.org> @diego:cypherstack.com: "Isabella the Monero Girl"

<diego:cypherstack.com> @basses:matrix.org: There is. TX Street.

<basses:matrix.org> @diego:cypherstack.com: it looks similar but south park version

<diego:cypherstack.com> it's literally her. The creator said so.

<diego:cypherstack.com> x.com/txstreetCom/status/1384250622564659203

<basses:matrix.org> 2020 you mean? > <@diego:cypherstack.com> Isabella the Monero Girl has been a thing since like 2018

<diego:cypherstack.com> @basses:matrix.org: one of those yeah

<redsh4de:matrix.org> cypherstack.com/isabella-monero-girl-stickers.html

<redsh4de:matrix.org> there's also a fox dude in there

<redsh4de:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/kjpuBwCeMyqQHffsjIjStjWs.png (image.png)

<diego:cypherstack.com> all of this is a ruse to drive traffic to the cypher stack website

<redsh4de:matrix.org> options, options... cat, fox, smth else :D

<redsh4de:matrix.org> i think this is smth maybe to put up to a community poll for the new website? Like Libreoffice did a few years back

<basses:matrix.org> @diego:cypherstack.com: still I don't see how it became a "monero thing", being used on TX Street still not doesn't change anything, statistics wise, monerochan is more popular, it was added to Mysu wallet.

<diego:cypherstack.com> @basses:matrix.org: yeah but people will not like monerochan, as you stated

<diego:cypherstack.com> on the official site

<diego:cypherstack.com> Isabella is a happy medium, having some precedent, not super sexualized, and brings a human component to the site.

<321bob321> Do we have to pay royalties to cypherstack ?

<redsh4de:matrix.org> CC by 4.0, ye?

<basses:matrix.org> yeah fox dude makes more sense even mentioned in their own announcement cypherstack.com/isabella-monero-girl-stickers.html > <@redsh4de:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/kjpuBwCeMyqQHffsjIjStjWs.png (image.png)

<basses:matrix.org> > A fox lends itself well to the colors of Monero, and we still might utilize this idea at some point

<basses:matrix.org> To me it feels like some person at CS wanted to create a sticker packer with monero style color.

<diego:cypherstack.com> @redsh4de:matrix.org: ye boi

<diego:cypherstack.com> @321bob321: Creative Commons

<basses:matrix.org> @basses:matrix.org: and they liked isabella as a concept

<basses:matrix.org> doesn't mean we are forced to use it and put it on monero website.

<diego:cypherstack.com> @basses:matrix.org: obviously

<diego:cypherstack.com> I put this illustration forth as an option for usage

<diego:cypherstack.com> @basses:matrix.org: Hi, yes. That person was me. I run CS. I made the decisions. P

<diego:cypherstack.com> Monero Chan is also in Stack Wallet. > <@basses:matrix.org> still I don't see how it became a "monero thing", being used on TX Street still not doesn't change anything, statistics wise, monerochan is more popular, it was added to Mysu wallet.

<basses:matrix.org> that's why im asking for something that fits everyone (inclusive).

<diego:cypherstack.com> I should add Isabella there too actually

<321bob321> She looks under age

<321bob321> She have ID ?

<diego:cypherstack.com> An animal mascot is unserious. I wouldn't want it on Monero's home page.

<diego:cypherstack.com> Abstract would have to be the direction, but we lose the human/grounding element, which is bad.

<basses:matrix.org> we actually shouldn't even add any character from other companies which might imply endorsment or advocation on monero website

<diego:cypherstack.com> Like, it doesn't have to be Isabella. Duh.

<diego:cypherstack.com> But I would argue for human.

<redsh4de:matrix.org> what about a more cartoony version? less curves, like in this image. although then the "seriousness" argument can be raised > <@redsh4de:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/kjpuBwCeMyqQHffsjIjStjWs.png (image.png)

<redsh4de:matrix.org> id def want the design to be inclusive

<basses:matrix.org> @basses:matrix.org: even it is CC or whatever

<redsh4de:matrix.org> humanity argument makes sense too

<diego:cypherstack.com> We can give Isabella a mastectomy, yes

<syntheticbird> what about just monero-chan. Please think of the weebs

<diego:cypherstack.com> elongate her shirt, take away the skirt and baggy the pants, take away the boobs so people don't have to remember that women have boobs

<basses:matrix.org> monero website has always been neutral even in its choice of wallets, always gave options for users to pick

<321bob321> @syntheticbird: Wb

<321bob321> @diego:cypherstack.com: Make her a swimmer

<redsh4de:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: i raise the seriousness and inclusiveness card, i think isabella is a nice neutralish nod to it while not leaning fully into the kawaii desu aesthetic

<basses:matrix.org> I don't why you insist on it being Isabella...

<syntheticbird> @basses:matrix.org: monero website not making an Halloween version is crazy to me

<diego:cypherstack.com> @basses:matrix.org: I literally said it didn't have to be

<diego:cypherstack.com> What's non-inclusive about a flat, more 'modestly' dressed isabella?

<basses:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: the new website is literally halloween themed bruh

<diego:cypherstack.com> you have several shifting goal posts here

<syntheticbird> @basses:matrix.org: where are the bats and pumpkins?

<basses:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: fake

<basses:matrix.org> shit

<basses:matrix.org> always we accept treats in xmr only

<321bob321> Also batman cert expires on 15th dec

<diego:cypherstack.com> bro that's good

<diego:cypherstack.com> batman goes public domain then?

<syntheticbird> @basses:matrix.org: i see. how about i turn you into a halloween decoration. I'm sure having your head stuffed in a pumpkin will make some good to your thinking

<diego:cypherstack.com> if so we can use him instead

<diego:cypherstack.com> mickey mouse steamboat willy is public domain, let's use that

<syntheticbird> ok this was supposed to be joke but that really reads like im threatening you so forget what i said.

<basses:matrix.org> @diego:cypherstack.com: gigachad?

<syntheticbird> how about having isabella and a multiverse button on the side so that the website reload with random theme

<basses:matrix.org> ultimate monero dev form?

<basses:matrix.org> actually the placeholder just pulls an image from Nano banana on refresh

<syntheticbird> @basses:matrix.org: epic

<redsh4de:matrix.org> monero joins the ai slop trend 2026

<redsh4de:matrix.org> masterful gambit

<321bob321> This talk is too advanced for me

<syntheticbird> @321bob321: then step forward whats wrong with you

<321bob321> Rude > <@321bob321> Wb

<basses:matrix.org> @321bob321: put chat in chatgpt and ask to explain in soccer terms

<syntheticbird> @basses:matrix.org: now that's really inclusive

<basses:matrix.org> remember that monero always meant who dont give a f about who you are what you do with your own money

<syntheticbird> except light theme user

<321bob321> So where adding ai chat bot to site? and have disclaimer to check accuracy yourself ?

<basses:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: I think we were too inclusive with our addition of light theme...

<321bob321> @syntheticbird: Non negotiable

<basses:matrix.org> far left tricked us...

<syntheticbird> @basses:matrix.org: association detected. political bait diffused

<basses:matrix.org> @diego:cypherstack.com monerujo.app removed pixelated Gunther

<diego:cypherstack.com> ok, so consensus is I make a different flat chested girl, yes?

<syntheticbird> @diego:cypherstack.com: sounds about right

<321bob321> @diego:cypherstack.com: Orange fair

<redsh4de:matrix.org> to summarize:

<redsh4de:matrix.org> the idea of a mascot for the page seems to be okay with everyone - inclusivity concerns with the current proposed design.

<redsh4de:matrix.org> there doesnt seem to be many mascots proposed historically aside from isabella, monerochan, monerocat and... something else that im missing?[... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/lIvxy88KaEZldmh0 ]

<basses:matrix.org> what this style is called? > <@diego:cypherstack.com> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/cypherstack.com/pmdvYXCHMiWqKoIOKVikKbqT.png (image.png)

<diego:cypherstack.com> will change hairstyle, will change outfit, will change skin color to white to signify the dominant race

<redsh4de:matrix.org> @basses:matrix.org: i hope thats not the final style, its giving corporate memphis lowkey: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_Memphis

<syntheticbird> @diego:cypherstack.com: make a mix. only the face is white, the rest is random

<redsh4de:matrix.org> vitiligo

<diego:cypherstack.com> @redsh4de:matrix.org: I agree, but I asked andres for more abstract when people started complaining

<diego:cypherstack.com> and that's what happened

<basses:matrix.org> @redsh4de:matrix.org: doesn't look similar at all

<redsh4de:matrix.org> it gives the same energy

<redsh4de:matrix.org> blobs

<redsh4de:matrix.org> lets leave blobs to Ethereum

<syntheticbird> @diego:cypherstack.com: now I'm starting to understand why the quality assurance process for designer in big corpo take so much time

<basses:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: lgbt

<diego:cypherstack.com> @syntheticbird: sir, design by committee is the absolute worst every time I have to go through it

<diego:cypherstack.com> went through it for the current, live version of the website many moons ago too

<basses:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: no oner compains about zig, Go or rust mascot

<syntheticbird> @basses:matrix.org: fanatism

<diego:cypherstack.com> @basses:matrix.org: yes but it's no secret Monero has the worst community

<321bob321> Meetimg adjourned

<basses:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: but Go is best

<diego:cypherstack.com> but they're smarter than other communities so it must be tolerated

<syntheticbird> @basses:matrix.org: i'll f*cking close you in a room for a month and let that blue rat eat your flesh

<321bob321> GO run

<basses:matrix.org> I mean r/monero literally said dark theme gives darknet feeling 🤦

<diego:cypherstack.com> programming languages get to feel approachable and cute

<diego:cypherstack.com> I wouldn't want a cartoon duck on my dollar bill instead of Washington

<basses:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: I have have crab for dinner

<basses:matrix.org> you are invited btw

<321bob321> @basses:matrix.org: Welcome to interwebz

<321bob321> How many crates does it take to build this site ?

<redsh4de:matrix.org> @basses:matrix.org: r/monero: "i love being flashbanged at 3am when i open a website that does not respect prefers-color-theme: dark"

<basses:matrix.org> @diego:cypherstack.com: fiat apologist?

<syntheticbird> @basses:matrix.org: r/brandnewsentence

<321bob321> Add to vocab

<redsh4de:matrix.org> btw, think i forgot to post: updated the community downloads page to have a TOC for the sections: beta.monerodevs.org/downloads/community, ended up going with a # icon to indicate

<diego:cypherstack.com> @redsh4de:matrix.org: Ok but how can we work Isabella into this page?

<diego:cypherstack.com> idea: instead of making her boobs smaller, what if we made them bigger?

<diego:cypherstack.com> just think about it for a bit

<basses:matrix.org> @diego:cypherstack.com: 🚩

<basses:matrix.org> will ask cakewallet for a mascot

<321bob321> Bolt ons

<syntheticbird> @diego:cypherstack.com: there are so many jokes that pass through my head but none of them are appropriate

<321bob321> And Brazilian butt lift too

<basses:matrix.org> @redsh4de:matrix.org: looks good

<redsh4de:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: types... deletes...

<321bob321> And longer eye lashes

<321bob321> Just send her to Lebanon

<321bob321> Easier

<syntheticbird> Lebanon doesn't exist

<syntheticbird> it's a myth

<321bob321> Only half does

<syntheticbird> but anyway surely the best is to go for another round of redesigning isabella

<redsh4de:matrix.org> yeh

<syntheticbird> i'm sure there will be consensus at some point

<321bob321> Yolo

<321bob321> Too many chiefs, not enough Indians

<diego:cypherstack.com> @basses:matrix.org: hilarious that you mention this. Cake Wallet got as big as they did partially because in the early days they paid many egrisl to talk cake wallet

<diego:cypherstack.com> then pulled that back after they got big enough

<redsh4de:matrix.org> 🍵

<basses:matrix.org> oh that's disgusting

<syntheticbird> @diego:cypherstack.com: incredibly rare case of a corporate greed refraining just in time

<syntheticbird> strategy going extinct these days

<321bob321> Monero marketing department

<basses:matrix.org> I meant the reason we can't use isabella is because the following will happen.

<basses:matrix.org> someone see's the mascot, wonders what it is called, someone tells a name, look it up, cypher stack is one that created it, then will feel it is endorsement from Cypher Stack/Stack wallet.

<diego:cypherstack.com> @basses:matrix.org: I have no issue with this ;)

<diego:cypherstack.com> I know zero people that do

<diego:cypherstack.com> and anyone who does is an AI

<basses:matrix.org> lol

<syntheticbird> I mean no one cares until cypherstack becomes an evil megacorporation but that will never happen

<redsh4de:matrix.org> eh i think its not that deep if its not copyrighted or anything, i'd have a problem with that

<redsh4de:matrix.org> if some entity or person has made something open source and there are no alternatives, why not use it yk? otherwise any open source design assets made by anyone who works at a crypto company can be taken as a endorsement, companies are a part of the monero community too

<syntheticbird> the evil part i mean

<321bob321> @syntheticbird: Minio

<basses:matrix.org> both CS and Cake have influence on Monero, CS researchers, designers etc. Cake users

<diego:cypherstack.com> @syntheticbird: My goal is to become THE blockstream of Monero

<321bob321> Send node to space ?

<redsh4de:matrix.org> @diego:cypherstack.com: do the small blocks come with the blockstream?

<diego:cypherstack.com> @basses:matrix.org: "Diego please please PLEASE review Carrot and FCMP. PLEASE Diego, you charge 30% less than other firms, and know the codebase and math, but we don't care about all that, we just want YOU!"

<diego:cypherstack.com> ~ MRL

<basses:matrix.org> @diego:cypherstack.com: anon can do all of that in 10sec

<basses:matrix.org> opens a CCS:

<basses:matrix.org> > do all CS work

<basses:matrix.org> > fix problems

<diego:cypherstack.com> @basses:matrix.org: Shoot bro. Send me his info. I want to hire.

<redsh4de:matrix.org> @basses:matrix.org: amazing. simply spectacular. ten bajillion gazillion xmr to anon!

<basses:matrix.org> @diego:cypherstack.com: already hired by CCS

<basses:matrix.org> repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/621

<basses:matrix.org> too much on his plate fixing wrong doing and wrong think

<diego:cypherstack.com> Lol. Anyway. Enough messing around. Good talk. Will make changes to the illustrations.

<basses:matrix.org> @diego:cypherstack.com: if there's anything comes on your mind other than isabella sketch it

<syntheticbird> if there's anything comes on your isabella other than sketch mind it

<basses:matrix.org> @syntheticbird: gleam.run mogs rust mascot

<basses:matrix.org> dont hover on it, too cute animation!