<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> I've seen recommended way to buy monero coins has changed in beta. old was links monerica while new omits it?

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> also when I click on kycnot.me I get "Access to kycnot.me was denied"

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> monerica and cryptwerk are no longer recommended options?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i dont understand what youre asking

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> oh, i missed the beta part

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> no. the new website splits buying and spending onto different pages

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> old website had monerica and cryptwerk in the merchants section. merchants became spending

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> beta.getmonero.org/get-started/merchants

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> old website had basicswap, etc listed under exchanges, new website has them under spending/echanged

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> beta.getmonero.org/get-started/exchanges

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> just noting that with beta when someone wants to buy monero he doesn't see monerica and cryptwerk first nor do they appear after they click on "Get coins".

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @thomasbuilds:matrix.org: ip address / tor maybe?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @thomasbuilds:matrix.org: monerica and cryptwerk are directories, not exchanges

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> I'm on vpn yeah but they shouldn't restrict me for using vpn

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> and belong with other directories, like xmrbazaar, kycnot.me etc

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> complain to kycnot..me - it works for me over tor

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> exchanges belong with exchanges, catch-all directories belong with directories. my 2c

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> you can buy crypto from xmrbazaar as well, but it isnt an exchange

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> right but they link to exchanges and when I started monero I bought some monero there, with the links monerica sponsors. > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> monerica and cryptwerk are directories, not exchanges

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its a yellowpages / phonebook for services that.. service xmr

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> which also include exchanges (monerica and kycnot.me also list exchanges)

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> anyways I'm not affiliated to any of them and don't have any preference but worth noting that they will get less visibilty imo

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> monerica also lists garbage sponsorships sometimes, so it isnt a place id recommend that people trust as a source to acquire xmr/ just a [pont, not really relevant here

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i recall them listing wallets and swappers that were rejected from getmonero for scamming orcharging hidden fees

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> like coin wallet

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> yeah then good they got removed from the get coins section

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> s/listing/promoting them at the top of page as sponsors

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> sorry wdymN

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> ?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> monerica had coin wallet in the sponsored section at the top of their homepage

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> and coinwallet was scraping fees from transactions, on the backend, and also used changelly as their swap provider

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> users are warned against using changelly, and wallets that do non-standard stuff are rejected from listing on getmonero

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> then good those will get less visibilty since it isn't advertised as "get coins" but rather spend xmr in beta

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> yeah, that was the idea with splitting the pages up. the old website was a big odd to have them together

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> when will beta be official?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> plenty of controversy with listing/delisting the "merchants" cryptwerk and monerica

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @thomasbuilds:matrix.org: probably some time closer to fcmp++ launch

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> need to spend some time on a few loose ends, such as moneropedia and ensuring gaps are covered or old links redirect

redsh4de opened pull request #2709: downloads: add skylight wallet [beta]

> monero-project/monero-site #2709

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @redsh4de:matrix.org should it be under lws wallets as well? Or instead? I think its still primarily an lws wallet, though the latest version did add node support

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Hm @sgp_:monero.social what do you think

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 2709.beta.monerodevs.org/downloads/community/#wallets

<sgp_> maybe since you already have tags, instead of a separate section for LWS, it can be a tag? So Skylight would have both a light-wallet and a node-scan (names TBD) tag?

<sgp_> Edge also supports "full sync" now: edge.app/blog/company-news/monero-wallet-full-sync-key-import

<sgp_> dropdowns under wallet for:

<sgp_> type: any/lightweight/normal

<sgp_> monero-only: any/yes/no

<sgp_> hardware: any/yes/no

<sgp_> [... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/4a2I57ALc2lqcXJJ ]

<sgp_> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/QhiInvRvXdaFSjlOwPmYVrEk.jpeg (This is how we handle sorting in history for Spice, maybe that helps inspire?)

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I think youre right

<syntheticbird> @sgp_: whats this wallet

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I forgot that edge added node support, so now there are no lws-only wallets

<sgp_> spice wallet shhhhh

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> So tags are probably the only logical option

<syntheticbird> @sgp_: where download

<jpk68:matrix.org> @sgp_: What do the numbers on the right mean?

<syntheticbird> (dont you dare saying no)

<sgp_> @syntheticbird: you should wait for the proper ANN but github.com/MAGICGrants/spice-wallet

<sgp_> it's basically "skylight, but for serai"

<syntheticbird> @sgp_: STFU AND TAKE MY MONEY

<sgp_> @jpk68:matrix.org: in this specific case, the number of history entries matching the filter type