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inwqgqrzx
For a community that prides itself on manipulating people, you can't manage a single guy that spends most of his time in his underpants :D
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SerHack
Was my comment on rehrar's post removed?
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xorax
.beg
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xorax: How many characters in ride
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xorax
4
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Mochi101
hyc, not sure if I misunderstood your Twitter post. But to be clear the CCS has a really open license: This repository is licensed under the BSD 3-Clause "New" or "Revised" License.
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Mochi101
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azy
.balance
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Mochi101
oh... hyc... sorry... seems I'm mistaken
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lenrdoaiyrrx
You will DO what Monero tells you to do. You will JUMP when you are told to jump. And most importantly you will DISCONNECT whoever Scientology^H^H^H^H^H I mean Mnero tells you to disconnect. Otherwise you WILL end up like lh1008 here:
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lenrdoaiyrrx
monerologs.net/monero-community/20210114#c181614 And you will do it all for FREE. Because Monero is open souce :D Just like Linux is there to pay for $700k watches that Torvalds wears.
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midipoet
Mochi101: I just assumed the CCS was an open licence. Is it not? I think the question is just whether someone being paid from the GF should have mplemented it for a competing/complementary currency (even if that other network is run by friends/colleagues/peers). Honestly, I don't know the answer to this, as it is quite complicated
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selsta
midipoet: ccs code is not open source
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selsta
(did not read backlog in case this was talked about already)
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gingeropolous
oh man that doesn't seem good
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Mochi101
selsta, wasn't the FFS open source before rehrar moved it to GitLab though? This would mean that he accidentally didn't apply the proper license to it when it was moved.
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selsta
they aren't using the old ffs forum
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selsta
the new ccs always was on gitlab and never had a license
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selsta
fwiw I even pointed this out in the past...
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Mochi101
Shouldn't it be open source, without a restrictive license, like everything else Monero?
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Mochi101
Is there a reason why it's not?
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selsta
I don't know
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Mochi101
selsta, you mention that it should be a less restrictive license?
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hyc
doesn't matter. fact is it's currently not licensed.
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selsta
there is no license, it isn't open source
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selsta
yep
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Mochi101
Who is the copyright holder then?
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hyc
moneroproject
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Mochi101
Which is who exactly?
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hyc
dunno. same people who own the repos
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Mochi101
It could easily be argued in a court of law that monero is a public and open source project, so anything that the monero project 'owns' is equally owned by every member of the public.
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hyc
nope
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Mochi101
So what legal entity or person owns the copyright?
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hyc
stuff is only public if explicitly licensed
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hyc
... stuff is only *open* if exppicitly licensed
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Mochi101
rehrar originally merged the code to the repo.
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Mochi101
I guess it's his work.
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Mochi101
Maybe he owns the copyright.
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selsta
it's more complicated
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Mochi101
yes, of course
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Thanos
.faucet
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Thanos: Snow White + her dwarfs
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Thanos
Snow White and her dwarfs
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Wallet
Thanos: Oops that is not correct. Try again later. (No not immediately or I'll just ignore you..)
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Mochi101
8
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Thanos
.faucet
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Thanos: In Three Little Pigs, how many houses get blown down
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Thanos
2
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Mochi101
You get all the difficult ones Thanos
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Thanos
Yeah, I didn't expect to be quizzed on fairy tales today
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hyc
rehrar was a paid employee, so anything he produced is work-for-hire, owned by employer.
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hyc
which would be core team or Project.
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hyc
unless there was an explicit contract that said otherwise, for any given piece of work
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Mochi101
Was he paid when he merged it?
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hyc
he was on salary
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Mochi101
You're sure?
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hyc
for the past 4 years, so what is there to doubt?
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Mochi101
ic
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Mochi101
Diego Salazar authored Dec 18, 2018
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Mochi101
Well, these details are important hyc
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hyc
like I said, unless there was an explicit contract that said otherwise...
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hyc
but no one has ever mentioned any such thing.
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Mochi101
Monero is a publically owned project though, isn't it?
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hyc
how so?
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hyc
it is not public domain
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Mochi101
So who are the owners?
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hyc
the individual contributors
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Mochi101
Who is willing to step up to the plate and say, "Monero is mine", and represent it in a legal sense?
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hyc
probably no one can say that. I can say "these parts of Monero are mine".
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Mochi101
You gave them away though.
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hyc
not unconditionally. I contributed under the terms of the agreed license.
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hyc
and if someone violates the terms of the license, I have legal standing to seek reparation. for my pieces.
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Mochi101
The onus is on the copyright holder to enforce their copyright.
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hyc
yes
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Mochi101
I guess unless someone is willing to represent for, and prove they have the right to represent for Monero, the whole exercise would be moot.
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Mochi101
Who was involved in the development of the CCS anyways?
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Mochi101
beardedwarrior did the initial backend commit.
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hyc
from what I've seen no one on the core team will lift a finger to enforce this
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hyc
but the fact they let it slide doesn't make it right...
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Mochi101
I guess you're of the opinion that they should do something?
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Mochi101
What should they do?
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hyc
at the very least, make an "official" statement on the topic
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Mochi101
blackhat.co.za - I wonder who Devin is
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hyc
there's no doubt that lawsuits are a waste of time and money. but the core team are "stewards" tasked with being caretakers of the project.
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hyc
they need to demonstrate that they are actually taking care.
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hyc
at the very least, that they have paid attention to the situation.
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hyc
mostly it looks like they gave rehrar free reign and he abused everyone's trust without any of the caretakers noticing.
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\x
does monero support LGBTQP?
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hyc
no idea what that is
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parazyd
.beg
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parazyd: What number is ZERO
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parazyd
0
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sjkmgfgik
When Tari finally comes out, will you dump your Monero to buy it? Will others?
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xmwhncnelu
'Oddly, no one who was directly involved with the SIR-C missions and currently still working the Lab, remembers the name Howard Chu, except for one who vaguely recalls Eugene Chu as having a brother names Howard'
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xmwhncnelu
Ed Caro, NASA Chief Engineer. cryptogazette.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/1-768x1445.png