gingeropolous: Are you for a PM?

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ap​otheon: Snow White had how many dwarfs​ named Grumpy

1

apotheon: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000066 XMR to apotheon [b6e129fa] Wait ≈23 hrs 57 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01418558

23 hours and 57 minutes

just enough time for a nap

g'nacht

hi

correct!

I heard the ring signature doesn't protect against large volume of transaction from one monero wallet, is that true? So if someone has an ecommerce monero wallet they should use multiple wallets?

bewees: hopefully someone knows and answers you

thanks orly_owl

np :)

you heard wrong

"large volume of transaction" is a theoretical attack (FloodXMR) and attacker must be actively doing it from his own wallet

Why is monero even dipping like the other currencies. Do people really just buy random coins for assumed easy gains or something?

whats a good exchange to convert from doge to xmr?

Kraken

Have to use BTC as an intermediary tho

narf: did you put an ad on localmonero.co ?

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N​orkle: How m​any characters in woman

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Norkle: @bonuspot tipped 0.0000018 XMR to Norkle [547b9d59] Wait ≈1 day 1 min before trying again. @bonuspot: 0.01418378

.beg

m​uhkey: How ​long is the word with

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.val xmr

TheFireSwamp: XMR -> USD • Avg: ≈181.39 • ccc/btse: ≈$181.41 24HΔ: -5.13% Vol: 26.76K [< 1m] • cmc: ≈$181.37 24HΔ: -5.18% 7DΔ: -11.62926% [< 3m]

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Th​eFireSwamp: How ma​ny letters in hair

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.balance

TheFireSwamp: • Your balance is: 0.00001149 XMR (≈0 USD)

Protocol2: Yes, many people just buy "random" cryptocurrencies for assumed easy gains sometimes.

13:46 < Wallet> N​orkle: How m​any characters in woman

According to the book Sybil, there were sixteen characters in Sybil Dorsett.

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ri​ceandbeans: Of 4 <-> 9, which is ​4

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.help donate

apotheon: Help: .donate <amount> <@account> - Donate coins to help fund this awesome tip/soak bot (default) or specify pre-approved @account to donate to that fund. Use info more info on each.

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Mo​chi101: How many letters in th​ird

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.help tip

apotheon: Help: .tip user amount - Tips amount of coins to user

So . . . is the only difference between "tip" and "donate" just the order of arguments?

.shrug

Maths are so hard.

15+15 is thirty

and 16+16 is thirty too

Mochi101: nice

Hey yall, I have a bit of an edge case question for a payment proof

I used Cake Wallet to send funds to someone receiving on a shitty Monero wallet, who's XMR functionality is down (Atomic Wallet). Now I need to prove that I sent them the funds. However, Cake doesn't offer that in the way of a transaction key

So instead I restored my seed phrase onto the Core GUI, and tried to get the payment proof that way. But that takes me to a *really* long string of characters. As in, maybe 1200 total :alnum: chars

And trying to plug that into a block explorer fails. Other transaction proofs are more like 1.5 lines, instead of the 7.5 like this.

So now I'm pretty much at a loss for how to send him a transaction proof

Did you send them the transaction id?

Yes

I suppose they can just use their own private view key + the transaction ID?

That would be one example, yes.

They're kinda newb, was hoping to just send them a link, a txn key, and their subaddy that I sent to

Also did you try to use the tx proof in GUI -> Advanced -> Prove / Check -> Check transaction

What would be another example?

The check transaction functionality inside the GUI.

So I tried both of those in the GUI, and it's not working for me

Could it be because the original transactions were done with Cake Wallet, and I just imported the seed phrase to the Core GUI?

Ok, yeah, I'm checking my other transactions that all occurred from natively within the GUI, and all the info is there, and looks normal. The one that I restored from Cake Wallet, doesn't have the subaddy that I sent to, isn't working for Advanced -> Prove/check , and as a funky transaction key

In some cases it doesn't have any transaction key.

I'll bother the Cake Devs. Thanks selsta

Did get a SpendproofV1?

hello

is there an intermediate resource between Mastering Monero and Zero to Monero that I can read?

Zero to Monero is surprisingly hard, what with it starting with some elliptic curve modularity operations off the bat

. . . so something called "Mastering Monero" is more beginner-oriented than "Zero to Monero"?

Those names seem reversed.

I'd expect Mastering to be the title of a third book in a series, after Learning Monero (or Beginner Monero) and Intermediate Monero.

PapuaHardyNet: getmonero.org/resources/research-lab

selsta: thank you. I expect the whitepapers and these other papers might explain things better or easier, helping me make headway into zero to monero

apotheon: it was inspired by "Mastering Bitcoin"

Zero to Monero requires some uni level math skills lol

selsta: gotcha

Hey selsta, is this something that devs would be interested in? It seems that I can't generate SpendProofs from wallets restored with just a seed phrase. Is that maybe something I'm doing wrong? Or is that because the wallet can't see the subaddress for the recipient when re-scanning the blocks?

how did you check the spendproof?

Monegro: Transaction keys can't be recovered from the mnemonic seed, so you're only able to create SpendProofs which prove authorship of a transaction, but not OutProofs which prove a payment to an address.

You can of course instruct the recipient to enter their secret viewkey, address and txid into a block explorer and have them verify the payment that way if they're willing to do that.

<selsta> Core GUI, clicked the "P" on the txn. Also tried the advanced tab. It gave me an incredibly long spend proof that didn't work in a block explorer with the subaddy to which it was sent

<tobtoht> Interesting, that's basically what I suspected. Thanks for the confirmation.

<instruct the recipient> Yeah that's basically the route I'm going since Cake doesn't offer Transaction Keys in their interface. A bit odd to me that they wouldn't do so

They don't really seem to think it's important either. I dunno, might switch to something else

Especially since their BTC wallet was hacked recently

Wallet files from Cake should be compatible with the GUI. So another option is to transfer them to your desktop. Not sure how/where Cake stores them though.

tobtoht: why bother with files if you have the seed?

Protocol2: "tobtoht: Transaction keys can't be recovered from the mnemonic seed"

tobtoht: oh ok got it