libera #monero

15 Nov 2021

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• 00:09
  chomwitt
  daemonBlockChainHeight: Failed to connect to daemon
• 00:09
  chomwitt
  i always get that message and sync has stopped
• 00:12
  Guest39
  playing with cli
• 00:13
  Guest39
  Error: amount is wrong
• 00:13
  Guest39
  wtf is it? :)
• 00:13
  Guest39
  i am using 0,43546576897673456 - long number :)
• 00:15
  chomwitt
  now gui client is frozen
• 00:15
  Guest39
  use cli
• 00:15
  Guest39
  its faster
• 00:16
  chomwitt
  why cli would be so faster..
• 00:16
  chomwitt
  doest make sense
• 00:16
  Guest39
  no overload
• 00:16
  chomwitt
  what overload?
• 00:16
  chomwitt
  a simple gui?
• 00:17
  chomwitt
  it cant connect
• 00:18
  Guest39
  use cli to connect :)
• 00:19
  chomwitt
  so you know that .. that gui has issues ?
• 00:22
  chomwitt
  going to sleep . goodnight!
• 02:09
  GlobalBanksta
  is there an electrum app for monero?
• 02:10
  selsta
  GlobalBanksta: check feather wallet
• 02:10
  selsta
  it's the most similar to feather
• 02:10
  selsta
  it's the most similar to electrum*
• 02:10
  GlobalBanksta
  thanks
• 07:38
  chomwitt
  goodmorning. my gui client for 2 hours had trouble establishing connection to sync the chain.
• 07:43
  chomwitt
  now i got error 'Deamon failed to start local node not responding after 120 sec.
• 07:51
  chomwitt
  Error: Couldn't connect to daemon: 127.0.0.1:18081
• 07:55
  Inge
  is monerod running on your local machine?
• 07:55
  chomwitt
  no
• 07:57
  chomwitt
  shouldnt that happen after i press the key (start daemon)?
• 08:01
  Inge
  I don't really use the GUI much. I think it should be possible to start it directly "externally" to the wallet, so you can be sure it is running, but someone else might now more details
• 08:29
  chomwitt
  i think its my devuan init system.. That could explain why cant start or manage the deamon
• 09:13
  Inge
  I much prefer having a monerod running 24/7 by itself
• 09:13
  Inge
  then it is always ready
• 13:56
  ndorf
  zoom
• 20:17
  apotheon
  ndorf: I'd prefer Matrix over Zoom if I had to do some teleconference shit.
• 22:23
  merope
  Technical question: are Ring Signatures a type of zero-knowledge proof?
• 22:34
  hyc
  pack it in boys, Monero will never be usable for the real world use case of a spoiled 9yo kid with an iPad.
• 22:39
  Vyko
  why not? a bunch of easily usable software like Monerujo exist
• 22:40
  Vyko
  not for iOS yet, but we are getting there
• 22:41
  hyc
  no no, that's not good enough. Monero is doomed. old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/qu…rious_user_friendly_problem/hkntvoo
• 22:42
  hyc
  it is unacceptable in this day and age to have software that doesn't run on iOS.
• 22:43
  hyc
  whether iOS supports the required hardware capabilities or not is irrelevant
• 22:43
  Vyko
  This guy was complaining about the GUI
• 22:43
  Vyko
  In the reddit post you sent
• 22:44
  Vyko
  GUI can always be improved
• 22:44
  Vyko
  the iOS problem is real though I agree. We might see some kind of a webapp solution though in the future.
• 22:45
  Vyko
  Also lets hope more and more people realize how privacy infringing Apple really is. Just look at their "child protection" stuff thats recent.
• 22:46
  hyc
  it's all inane
• 22:46
  hyc
  especially that
• 22:46
  Vyko
  iOS and Monero is really hard to even mention in one sentence together
• 22:46
  Vyko
  They are so distant
• 22:46
  Vyko
  The userbase that wants both is almost non existent I think haha
• 22:47
  hyc
  agreed
• 22:48
  Vyko
  The good news is that if you are at least a little bit techie, using the Monero GUI with a ledger hw is really really comfortable.
• 22:48
  Vyko
  Much more comfortable then messing around with paypal's shitty UI for example
• 22:48
  Vyko
  So im really optimistic
• 22:48
  apotheon
  Isn't there a Monero wallet that runs on iOS?
• 22:49
  apotheon
  . . . or does someone want a miner for iOS?
• 22:49
  Vyko
  I think thats a scam if im not mistaken
• 22:49
  Vyko
  Freewallet or something
• 22:49
  apotheon
  I wouldn't know.
• 22:49
  apotheon
  I don't use iOS.
• 22:49
  Vyko
  Not sure to be honest let me check
• 22:50
  Vyko
  Cakewallet is a legit one
• 22:50
  Vyko
  And yeah Freewallet seems to be a scam
• 22:51
  Vyko
  A very professional one
• 22:51
  Vyko
  their website would fool me
• 22:51
  Vyko
  freewallet.org/xmr-wallet
• 22:52
  Vyko
  Seems like when you try to withdraw any funds they hold it and dont let you
• 22:53
  hyc
  freewallet is quite a resilient scam. or they have deep enough pockets to get Apple to keep deleting negative reviews
• 22:53
  Vyko
  Funny how Apple acts instantly when they have a competition on there
• 22:53
  Vyko
  But when there is an elaborate scam like this they just dont give a damn
• 22:53
  apotheon
  Is Cake available on iOS?
• 22:53
  Vyko
  Hypocrits
• 22:53
  Vyko
  Yeah Cake is available
• 22:53
  Vyko
  I think it might be the only safe option on iOS
• 22:54
  Vyko
  But do check on a lot of online forums before you try it
• 22:54
  Vyko
  You can never know
• 22:54
  apotheon
  Well . . . there you go. There's Monero on iOS.
• 22:54
  hyc
  cake wallet was originally written for iOS
• 22:54
  apotheon
  Ah, that's interesting.
• 22:54
  apotheon
  I didn't realize that.
• 22:56
  Vyko
  Whats the difference between monero community and this one?
• 22:56
  Vyko
  I mean channels
• 22:56
  hyc
  no idea. this one was first.
• 22:57
  hyc
  I assume -community was specifically for the community workgroup
• 22:57
  hyc
  this channel for general monero usage questions etc
• 22:57
  Vyko
  yeah seems logical
• 22:57
  selsta
  the GUI could theoretically be compiled for iOS
• 22:57
  selsta
  we have an experimental android app
• 22:58
  Vyko
  i think if the Monerujo devs would port their app that would be the perfect solution
• 22:58
  Vyko
  That app is perfect
• 22:58
  Vyko
  Almost like paying with your credit card
• 22:59
  Vyko
  I mean in terms of usability, not privacy :D
• 22:59
  apotheon
  Yep, ALIS says #monero-community is for a Community Workgroup.
• 23:00
  hyc
  who's ALIS?
• 23:00
  apotheon
  a Libera Chat bot
• 23:00
  apotheon
  like ChanServ and so on
• 23:01
  apotheon
  hyc: try /msg alis list *#monero* and you'll get a big list of channels with a little info about each.
• 23:01
  apotheon
  s/try/Try/
• 23:01
  hyc
  cool
• 23:01
  apotheon
  . . . including whatever descriptive message is attached to it and the population number for the channel.
• 23:02
  apotheon
  I like the globbing capability.
• 23:02
  apotheon
  It's basically what you're supposed to use on Libera Chat instead of the /list command.
• 23:02
  Vyko
  What other chats are out there like Libera?
• 23:02
  Vyko
  This is actually my first day on IRC
• 23:03
  hyc
  the granddaddy was freenode, which we all left because it got bought out by some profit-seeking parasite
• 23:04
  ocb
  there is rizon :)
• 23:04
  apotheon
  EFNet, IRCnet, OFTC, Anarplex, Undernet, and others
• 23:04
  hyc
  I think irc.mozilla.org is still live
• 23:05
  hyc
  if it's not open source dev related I wouldn't have seen it
• 23:05
  apotheon
  I basically don't use more than three IRC networks, total, and two of them are so low-traffic that I almost don't use those, either.
• 23:06
  apotheon
  One of the others is very privacy-oriented, and the other is just private.
• 23:07
  ocb
  there is cyberia.is also privacy-oriented with onions :)
• 23:07
  apotheon
  What's the cyberia deal?
• 23:08
  ocb
  deal? they have irc, torrent tracker and a dot resolver with onion services for each
• 23:09
  ocb
  and in the bottom you can see a list of vps providers supporting monero payments
• 23:09
  ocb
  so i kind of like them :)
• 23:13
  apotheon
  ocb: . . . so its organizing principle might be related to torrents, I guess.
• 23:13
  apotheon
  Is that it?
• 23:13
  apotheon
  Maybe I should try visiting the website.
• 23:13
  apotheon
  hmm
• 23:14
  ocb
  try. i am not sure whats the deal but i use their torrent tracker when publishing torrents and their irc from time to time
• 23:14
  apotheon
  VPN, BitTorrent, DNS resolution, and IRC
• 23:14
  apotheon
  interesting
• 23:14
  apotheon
  Maybe I'll check it out.
• 23:14
  ocb
  i don't think they have vpn
• 23:15
  apotheon
  Sorry, I meant VPS.
• 23:15
  apotheon
  . . . though it looks like that's just a list, not actual services offered.
• 23:17
  ocb
  yeah its a list, i used one from the list for a pruned btc node and all is ok
• 23:17
  ocb
  paid with monero :)
• 23:24
  Vyko
  sounds cool thanks for the info
• 23:25
  Vyko
  can I be simultaneously be connected to multiple servers?
• 23:25
  Vyko
  from 1 client?
• 23:26
  ocb
  depends on the client, but all well known clients support connecting to multiple irc servers
• 23:27
  ocb
  so yeah you can connect to 100 irc servers if you want, so to say
• 23:27
  Vyko
  nice. I llike how lightweight it is
• 23:27
  ocb
  what client are you using
• 23:27
  Vyko
  I mean much more practical for troubleshooting than going on reddit or something
• 23:27
  Vyko
  Konversation
• 23:28
  ocb
  ah haven't used it
• 23:28
  ocb
  well there is always a 'man' command for troubleshooting :)
• 23:29
  Vyko
  haha well not for a problem I had 2 hours ago
• 23:29
  Vyko
  "Anyone encountered a bug when Discover doesn't let you update because it gets into an endless loop of Fetching for updates > Listing them > Fetching for updates..."
• 23:29
  Vyko
  this was it
• 23:29
  Vyko
  its solved now with an update
• 23:30
  ocb
  aham, glad you solved it
• 23:31
  Vyko
  can I like write to you without a query?
• 23:31
  Vyko
  So that everyone sees it but you get notified?
• 23:31
  ocb
  i don't understand the question
• 23:32
  Vyko
  so does IRC has a solution for texting in the main chat but specifically TO someone?
• 23:32
  Vyko
  who will get notified
• 23:32
  Vyko
  but all this without having a private conversation
• 23:32
  ocb
  maybe you're looking for /notice ?
• 23:33
  Vyko
  Not really
• 23:33
  Vyko
  let me fire up a documentation
• 23:34
  Vyko
  it says about notice "Sends a private message to nickname without opening a query window for either you or them."
• 23:34
  Vyko
  thats a cool feature