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Steven_M Is the matrix Monero not bridged with IRC anymore? 
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apotheon That's the case, yes. 
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apotheon I guess whoever's running the matrix Monero channel hasn't bothered reconnecting. 
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apotheon rebridging 
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» Steven_M nods 
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Steven_M which one is more active? 
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narf yes 
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Steven_M narf: what do you mean? 
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narf Steven_M: yes 
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Steven_M narf: As in they're both as active as each other? 
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selsta Steven_M: they are bridged in the other channels 
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selsta just this one is missing 
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Steven_M selsta: oh okay cool. :-) 
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selsta this channel has a lot of member so some extra permissions are required 
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selsta and it somehow never got done 
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Steven_M selsta: all good. :) 
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Steven_M selsta: Would you be able to build and ship me a razzberry pi Monero node? I'd pay you in XMR. I can't build it myself. 
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selsta hmm I don't have one myself so I'm not the person for that 
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Steven_M fair enough, hope you don't mind me asking. :-) 
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Steven_M I'm off to bed, goodnight. :) 
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mtchannel What settings do I need to change to switch to p2pool mini? 
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moneromooo If anyone here has had trouble with being unable to fork a repo on repo.getmonero.org, PM me your username there and I can fix it. 
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great_taste I wanna see XMR/BTC > BCH/BTC 
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apotheon great_taste: Why specifically that pairing? 
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apotheon great_taste: Is this just about pumping Monero value higher than its current value relative to BTC? 
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yanmaani XMR/BTC > BCH/BTC = XMR > BCH 
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yanmaani but also, price is stupid 
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apotheon yanmaani: That's clear to me.  What's not clear to me is whether great_taste just wants Monero price to go up or hates BCH more than BTC for some reason. 
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apotheon This formula could mean BCH drops, or XMR rises, or both, and I'm not sure what motives underly the general statement. 
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great_taste lol 
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apotheon s/underly/underlie/ 
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apotheon dunno how that happened 
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great_taste it'd just be great to see xmr with a greater btc value than useless bch that nobody cares about 
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great_taste anyways, whatever \o/ 
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great_taste why is price stupid? 
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apotheon Did someone say price is stupid? 
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apotheon On technical merits alone, I'd take BCH over BTC, though. 
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Steven_M great_taste: apotheon: I wish I had somewhere to spend my XMR. 
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apotheon What do you want to buy? 
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Steven_M My country doesn't have crypto gift card stores, unlike the US. 
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louipc apotheon: is it just the blocksize or something else? 
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yanmaani bch and btc and all other cryptocurrencies are equally stupid 
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yanmaani it all depends on what you can *do* with them 
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yanmaani why is Monero any better or worse than Wownero? 
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yanmaani why is Litecoin any better or worse than Bitcoin? 
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yanmaani you might say "it's the original", sure 
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yanmaani but that's just a branding issue. In the real world, there's no difference between a real and a fake watch. 
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yanmaani bitcoin is interesting because it's accepted in a lot of places 
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yanmaani which, orthogonally, means that the lightning network is totally useless 
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yanmaani because it's not "bitcoins" in any meaningful sense 
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apotheon Litecoin is a better currency intermediary because of high liquidity and reasonably high levels of acceptance. 
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apotheon BCH is a better actual currency than BTC, if you want something in the more traditional "Bitcoin" mold, because of its high liquidity, decent community, and technical direction. 
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apotheon Monero is a better actual currency outside of the mainstream economy because of its privacy characteristics, mining characteristics, and development context. 
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apotheon Wownero is quite interesting in a number of ways, and its development is always interesting, but part of what makes its dev interesting also makes it less well suited to use as a general currency due to the way its technical characteristics can make extremely sharp turns. 
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yanmaani Doesn't BCH literally have "weak subjectivity" 
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apotheon When talking about one currency being better than another, the implicit question should be "For what?", and any strict single-currency maximalist must simply be incompetent or unwilling to recognize that. 
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yanmaani it's like the worst aspects of PoS and the worst aspects of PoW 
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yanmaani My point here is that the "community" and "direction" doesn't really matter; the price moves as it does, sure, but this is not really interesting either 
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apotheon Maybe.  I don't know enough about that aspect.  It still functions better as an actual currency than BTC, though. 
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yanmaani btc works ... fine? on a good day, you can spend it, and there's a lot of BTC-only merchants 
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yanmaani not true for BCH 
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apotheon "My coffee cost eighty bucks this week."  That's a shit utility proposition for a currency. 
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yanmaani either they take only BTC, only XMR, BTC+XMR, or e v e r y t h i n g 
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apotheon I still wouldn't bother using BTC as an actual currency if I didn't have to.  If some coffee shop takes BTC and USD, I'd just use USD instead. 
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apotheon I might consider using BCH if the coffee shop took that, though. 
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apotheon Being a more widely accepted cryptocurrency is not the same as being a better currency. 
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apotheon It just means you can have a fucking *terrible* time with it in more places. 
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apotheon BTC has been a better place to park a large chunk of wealth for a while, and may continue to be that for a while as well, if all you want is to put USD in and later get much more purchasing power out -- though Ethereum has looked better overall for that lately. 
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louipc yanmaani: why is the zimbabwe dollar any better than the us dollar? 
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louipc i mean... 
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louipc hehhehe 
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apotheon It's better for jokes about the US dollar than the US dollar itself.