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Steven_M
Is the matrix Monero not bridged with IRC anymore?
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apotheon
That's the case, yes.
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apotheon
I guess whoever's running the matrix Monero channel hasn't bothered reconnecting.
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apotheon
rebridging
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» Steven_M nods
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Steven_M
which one is more active?
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narf
yes
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Steven_M
narf: what do you mean?
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narf
Steven_M: yes
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Steven_M
narf: As in they're both as active as each other?
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selsta
Steven_M: they are bridged in the other channels
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selsta
just this one is missing
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Steven_M
selsta: oh okay cool. :-)
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selsta
this channel has a lot of member so some extra permissions are required
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selsta
and it somehow never got done
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Steven_M
selsta: all good. :)
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Steven_M
selsta: Would you be able to build and ship me a razzberry pi Monero node? I'd pay you in XMR. I can't build it myself.
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selsta
hmm I don't have one myself so I'm not the person for that
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Steven_M
fair enough, hope you don't mind me asking. :-)
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Steven_M
I'm off to bed, goodnight. :)
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mtchannel
What settings do I need to change to switch to p2pool mini?
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moneromooo
If anyone here has had trouble with being unable to fork a repo on repo.getmonero.org, PM me your username there and I can fix it.
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great_taste
I wanna see XMR/BTC > BCH/BTC
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apotheon
great_taste: Why specifically that pairing?
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apotheon
great_taste: Is this just about pumping Monero value higher than its current value relative to BTC?
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yanmaani
XMR/BTC > BCH/BTC = XMR > BCH
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yanmaani
but also, price is stupid
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apotheon
yanmaani: That's clear to me. What's not clear to me is whether great_taste just wants Monero price to go up or hates BCH more than BTC for some reason.
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apotheon
This formula could mean BCH drops, or XMR rises, or both, and I'm not sure what motives underly the general statement.
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great_taste
lol
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apotheon
s/underly/underlie/
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apotheon
dunno how that happened
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great_taste
it'd just be great to see xmr with a greater btc value than useless bch that nobody cares about
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great_taste
anyways, whatever \o/
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great_taste
why is price stupid?
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apotheon
Did someone say price is stupid?
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apotheon
On technical merits alone, I'd take BCH over BTC, though.
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Steven_M
great_taste: apotheon: I wish I had somewhere to spend my XMR.
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apotheon
What do you want to buy?
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Steven_M
My country doesn't have crypto gift card stores, unlike the US.
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louipc
apotheon: is it just the blocksize or something else?
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yanmaani
bch and btc and all other cryptocurrencies are equally stupid
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yanmaani
it all depends on what you can *do* with them
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yanmaani
why is Monero any better or worse than Wownero?
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yanmaani
why is Litecoin any better or worse than Bitcoin?
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yanmaani
you might say "it's the original", sure
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yanmaani
but that's just a branding issue. In the real world, there's no difference between a real and a fake watch.
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yanmaani
bitcoin is interesting because it's accepted in a lot of places
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yanmaani
which, orthogonally, means that the lightning network is totally useless
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yanmaani
because it's not "bitcoins" in any meaningful sense
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apotheon
Litecoin is a better currency intermediary because of high liquidity and reasonably high levels of acceptance.
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apotheon
BCH is a better actual currency than BTC, if you want something in the more traditional "Bitcoin" mold, because of its high liquidity, decent community, and technical direction.
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apotheon
Monero is a better actual currency outside of the mainstream economy because of its privacy characteristics, mining characteristics, and development context.
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apotheon
Wownero is quite interesting in a number of ways, and its development is always interesting, but part of what makes its dev interesting also makes it less well suited to use as a general currency due to the way its technical characteristics can make extremely sharp turns.
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yanmaani
Doesn't BCH literally have "weak subjectivity"
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apotheon
When talking about one currency being better than another, the implicit question should be "For what?", and any strict single-currency maximalist must simply be incompetent or unwilling to recognize that.
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yanmaani
it's like the worst aspects of PoS and the worst aspects of PoW
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yanmaani
My point here is that the "community" and "direction" doesn't really matter; the price moves as it does, sure, but this is not really interesting either
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apotheon
Maybe. I don't know enough about that aspect. It still functions better as an actual currency than BTC, though.
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yanmaani
btc works ... fine? on a good day, you can spend it, and there's a lot of BTC-only merchants
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yanmaani
not true for BCH
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apotheon
"My coffee cost eighty bucks this week." That's a shit utility proposition for a currency.
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yanmaani
either they take only BTC, only XMR, BTC+XMR, or e v e r y t h i n g
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apotheon
I still wouldn't bother using BTC as an actual currency if I didn't have to. If some coffee shop takes BTC and USD, I'd just use USD instead.
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apotheon
I might consider using BCH if the coffee shop took that, though.
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apotheon
Being a more widely accepted cryptocurrency is not the same as being a better currency.
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apotheon
It just means you can have a fucking *terrible* time with it in more places.
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apotheon
BTC has been a better place to park a large chunk of wealth for a while, and may continue to be that for a while as well, if all you want is to put USD in and later get much more purchasing power out -- though Ethereum has looked better overall for that lately.
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louipc
yanmaani: why is the zimbabwe dollar any better than the us dollar?
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louipc
i mean...
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louipc
hehhehe
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apotheon
It's better for jokes about the US dollar than the US dollar itself.