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apotheon
Now that Bandcamp got bought and will likely be ruined, there's an window of opportunity for a Monero-enabled Bandcamp replacement opening up.
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ocb
jjakob: if xmr-btc-swap makers are not empty, then that is the better choice. otherwise localmonero.
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scara
Ok so I'm restoreing my wallet right now, is there a way to delete the private key so I can just see the public address of my account for mineing?
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louipc
never delete the private key or you'll lose all your money
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ocb
scara: you maybe want to use a view key?
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badjabber
scara you want to create a view only wallet
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badjabber
you need private viewkey plus address of your wallet to do this
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scara
badjabber: I have the wallet and wallet.key can I run a command to replace the private key with a view key?
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badjabber
you gotta open the wallet normally. In monero-wallet-cli you would then use the viewkey command
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badjabber
to get the private viewkey
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badjabber
then you can run monero-wallet-cli --generate-from-view-key to create a view only wallet
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badjabber
it will only show incoming amounts
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scara
"private viewkey"? Whats so private about it?
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ocb
you don't share it, otherwise somebody can see transaction information for specific address. but is not able to spend it. that's why it's a view key. there's also a spend key.
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jjakob
is it possible to use a hardware wallet (trezor) with different software and use the utxo's on it?
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jjakob
I know it supports HWI, so can I receive xmr on it with monero-gui, then send it with wasabi?
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merope
Wasabi does not support xmr, afaik
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jjakob
also simultaneously store btc and xmr on it? (it can support multiple wallets with passwords?)
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merope
You can't send xmr to a btc wallet
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jjakob
trezor supports xmr
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merope
Trezor does, but wasabi doesn't
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merope
Your wallet does not "contain" the actual coins
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merope
It only contains the private keys required to sign transactions from the corresponding addresses
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merope
But the coins are on the blockchain
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merope
Different blockchains don't interact directly with eachother
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jjakob
yeah I get that
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WinslowEric[m]
Not exactly, Polkadot provided a bridge. But obviously btc and xmr has nothing to do with it.
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merope
You can connect the same trezor device to multiple software wallets for multiple coins, but if wasabi does not support xmr, then you will not be able to use your xmr from that
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merope
Even those bridges are not a direct interaction
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WinslowEric[m]
Oh yeah
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jjakob
understood, I was mistaken in my assumption that wasabi would support xmr, but that's not a problem then, I can use the official monero wallet
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jjakob
isn't the hw wallet also in charge of generating and storing addresses?
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merope
Depends on the specific brand/model
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merope
Iirc there's one that only holds the keys and does the tx signing, because it has very little memory and computing power
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jjakob
I have the trezor T, the more powerful one
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merope
And all the wallet data and metadata is stored in the software wallet instead
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merope
While some others that are also able to store the wallet data on the device itself
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merope
In which case, I would expect them to also store the index of subaddresses generated
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mojo24
hello
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mojo24
with h/s of 30000 is better to use p2pool or only xmrig
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merope
P2pool is a decentralized pool software
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mojo24
i used for some days but i earned around 1euro daily!
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merope
Xmrig is the actual miner
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merope
I assume you were mining on some other pool?
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mojo24
no solo
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merope
Solo mining does not work like that
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mojo24
xmrig on my servers
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mojo24
no pool
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merope
When solo mining, you either find a block and get the whole reward (0.6-0.7 xmr right now) or you get nothing
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mojo24
how much time i'll need with 3000 h/s
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merope
But finding a block takes a long time by yourself
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mojo24
3months
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merope
Many years
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mojo24
more
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mojo24
years?
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mojo24
i found one after 2.5months1
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moneromooo
Your average time to find a block is about 2 minutes times 3e9 divded by 30e3.
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merope
With 3000 H/s, it would take you 3 years and 5 months to find one block, on average
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merope
(Right now)
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mojo24
30000
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mojo24
not 3000
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merope
Ooooh, that sounds more likely
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merope
4 months on average, so you were a little lucky
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mojo24
i found after 2.5 months
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mojo24
i have 2 servers of 15000 h/s each
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mojo24
is better to make my pool
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moneromooo
For two machines, probably not.
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mojo24
p2pool is paying almost nothing!
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moneromooo
Unless they can't share the same chain and you want to save 40 GB I guess.
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moneromooo
Long term, you'll get about the same from p2pool, centraliezd pool or solo mining,
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merope
Your average income stays the same
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merope
P2pool pays less, but more often
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moneromooo
In fact, p2pool/solo will get you a tiny bit more, due to no middleman fee.
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merope
You get the same amount
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mojo24
the issue is not hd but if i'll earn more when p2pool server are linked in one
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mojo24
smth like xmrig proxy
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moneromooo
Adding a pool in the middle will not increase your finds.
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moneromooo
"finds" here being defined as "monero balance increase".
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mojo24
yep!
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merope
You can't earn more, ever
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merope
It all depends on your hashrate
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mojo24
if i use both servers to link to one p2pool is better or is the same on having each p2pool on specific server
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merope
Same thing, but there's no point to run multiple p2pool
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merope
Just run one and connect both miners to it
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mojo24
i dont have very good internet maybe this will affect p2pool server
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merope
"Not very good" how?
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merope
Slow? High ping? Unstable connection?
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mojo24
slow
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mojo24
how to meter?
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merope
What's your speed?
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merope
P2pool doesn't need a lot
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merope
There are many speedtest websites
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mojo24
from command line how to do that
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merope
Or just try downloading a large file with wget on the server
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mojo24
yes
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mojo24
the speed to 127.0.0.1 is for sure better than some external ip
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mojo24
solo and p2pool will be the same after 1month right?
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moneromooo
In the same way as you'll have the same number of sixes on two dice after you throw each of then 10 times.
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moneromooo
It only converges to the same point at "infinity".
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mojo24
ok i go p2pool
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moneromooo
On short timescales, one or the other will most likely get ahead, they'll probably cross each other, etc. Random walk.
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mojo24
and i have lost round 1month going from solo to p2pool
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moneromooo
p2pool will likely start ahead of solo. Then solo will possibly get ahead, due to longer expected times and larger reward.
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moneromooo
Long long long term, they'll get closer and closer.
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mojo24
what is long long term
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mojo24
1 year
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mojo24
6months
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moneromooo
Maybe... 50 years ?
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moneromooo
Maybe 2000 years.
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mojo24
oh this is not good
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moneromooo
Random stuff has a nasty habit of sometimes staying away from its expected value for a while :)
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apotheon
At this point, I see little point in using a pool other than P2Pool, except in the case of "I was on this other pool before P2Pool was a thing, and I'm too lazy to switch."
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moneromooo
1 year maybe. Depends how yo measure it really.
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apotheon
Some centralized pools actually shut down when P2Pool became a thing, and some that are still running recommend using P2Pool instead.
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moneromooo
Well, not really "how yo umeasure it", more about how much variation from expected you're ok with and how lucky you get.
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mojo24
i was lucky to get 0.7 after 2.5 months
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mojo24
solo no p2pool.....
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apotheon
If you aren't running *very serious* hardware, for the standards of the particular cryptocurrency you're mining, I'd generally say to go with a pool.
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mojo24
im running bad hardware
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mojo24
opteron 6380
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mojo24
too much watt
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mojo24
dont know if worth
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apotheon
Oh, you mean bad efficiency. Yeah.
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moneromooo
15k per machine is not bad at all.
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moneromooo
I think it's in fact pretty damn good.
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mojo24
4 cpu
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moneromooo
Ah. Hmm.
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mojo24
and not all cores are working
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mojo24
56 of 64
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mojo24
dont know how to disable ht assist
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apotheon
If it's profitable overall given local electricity utility prices, it could still be worth it.
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mojo24
it is but not very much for h/s that give
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mojo24
30 euro monthly!!
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apotheon
woohoo
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mojo24
1euro daily!
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mojo24
is nothing
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apotheon
That's not bad.
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apotheon
Well . . . it's not going to pay the rent.
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mojo24
15000
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apotheon
Mining isn't the most profitable pursuit in the world if you don't go nuts with it, though.
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merope
Check cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/xmr
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mojo24
hardware cost 500
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apotheon
Here's the thing:
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mojo24
512gb ram!
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merope
If you know your power usage and electricity cost, you can see how profitable you are
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mojo24
it is but not more that 30euro monthly!
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apotheon
If you do your mining in a way that can't be traced back to you, that's awesome, with Monero. You have "clean", better-than-free exchange of fiat currency for Monero. It's basically a very, very friendly, private currency exchange.
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apotheon
Instead of an atomic swap or localmonero, you use the home utility provider, and you even get tips for doing it.
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mojo24
hardware cost 500 so even in one year i wont pay hardware
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apotheon
In addition, you help secure the network, which means you help the currency gain value over time (theoretically).
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apotheon
Yeah, well, there's the hardware cost, of course.
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apotheon
Your reference to not all cores working suggested to me you might have been using hardware that was just sitting around gathering dust.
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mojo24
no is smth more specific
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mojo24
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apotheon
Oh, I see.