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user85
anyone here managed to build monero cli wallet recently?
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user85
makek gives a lot of errors
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selsta
yes
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selsta
post the error
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user85
selsta: have you tried make depends
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selsta
yes, i use it all the tiem
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selsta
time*
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user85
Entering directory '...../monero/contrib/depends'config.sub: missing argument
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user85
Try `config.sub --help' for more information.sha256sum: hosts/.mk: No such file or directory
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user85
uname -a Linux .....
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user85
using debian
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dsc_
did you clone from github?
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selsta
we only tested it on ubuntu 18.04 and 20.04
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selsta
other OS might not work
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selsta
or need some tweaking
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user85
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user85
ok i can use cake wallet for a moment
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user85
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user85
:)
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user85
cake wallet exc is yet to work
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user85
when i select btc amount monero stays 0
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user85
how come
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user85
....
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user85
selsta: do you use cake wallet?
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user85
maybe they started to scam? lol
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user85
hmm
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user85
selsta:
monero-project/monero #8108 fix is not working
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user85
any ideas what to twick?
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user85
tweak
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user85
does cake wallet malfunction on some android versions?
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user85
exhange does not work what so ever
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user85
cant complile freaking cli wallet
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user85
is it project working or?
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selsta
user85: there are different users
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selsta
you can't link to a random issue and say it doesn't work lol
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selsta
different possible issues*
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selsta
i said it before already, depends works on ubuntu 18.04 and 20.04, other OS might not work
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user85
its same issue
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user85
selsta: also do you use cake wallet?
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selsta
then post log
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user85
debian is a very popular distro
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user85
selsta: log of?
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user85
which log
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selsta
no, a log of the error message
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user85
Cmakeoutput?
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selsta
yes
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selsta
paste.debian.net
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user85
last lines with an error message
paste.debian.net/1247465
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selsta
there is no error in your log
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user85
Determining if the -Wl,-undefined,error linker flag is supported passed with the following output:
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user85
fatal: path 'external/miniupnp' does not exist in 'HEAD'
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user85
CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:273 (message): Submodule 'external/miniupnp' is not up-to-date. Please update all submodules with
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user85
git module sync and similar does not solve it
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duso
Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 2668343 -> 2669111 [Your node is 768 blocks (1.1 days) behind]
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duso
I did have to disconnect and reboot so the server was offline for a couple hours today so I have slipped behind a bit - will be interesting if it quickly catches up to about ~450 blocks behind and stays there for days again
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duso
2022-07-16 14:20:44.698 [P2P4] INFO global src/cryptonote_protocol/cryptonote_protocol_handler.inl:414 [162.218.65.30:18380 OUT] Sync data returned a new top block
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duso
candidate: 2668343 -> 2669111 [Your node is 768 blocks (1.1 days) behind] - So at 14:20 I was 768 blocks behind
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moneromooo
If you fial to sync, restart with --log-level 1, check what errors you get, if any.
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duso
2022-07-16 14:48:16.680 [P2P9] INFO global src/cryptonote_protocol/cryptonote_protocol_handler.inl:1681 Synced 2668663/2669129 (99%, 466 left) - At 14:48 it had synced to 466 blocks left, so in 28 minutes it synced 300 blocks
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duso
2022-07-16 15:28:00.705 [P2P0] INFO global src/cryptonote_protocol/cryptonote_protocol_handler.inl:414 [168.119.163.4:18080 OUT] Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 2668695 -> 2669157 [Your node is 462 blocks (15.4 hours) behind] - At 15:28 it is now at 462, so in the past 40 minutes it has synced 4 blocks
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user85
hi
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user85
:)
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user85
anyone here have managed to build monero cli on debian ?
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user85
hi
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user85
any btc xmr exchanges that worrk with 0 js?
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lagoon93
any thoughts about
pointnetwork.io
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user85
is it an exchange?
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lagoon93
new web 3.0
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lagoon93
lets c if is really decentralized
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lagoon93
proof of stake...
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rbrunner
user85: "anyone here have managed to build monero cli on debian ?" Yes. Your problem, whatever it is, does not seem Debian-related to me then.
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user85
its working now
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user85
:)
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user85
got some help in dev
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user85
rbrunner: which exchange do you recommend?
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user85
cake wallet exchange is not working lol
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user85
ok my main remaining question who here does use cake wallet?
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user85
rest i can google
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selsta
i tried it on iOS
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selsta
but not the built in exchange
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user85
selsta: could you try the exchange? just ented some btc amount and see if it works? i installed apk directly from their website
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selsta
do you use tor?
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user85
when i click btc all in xmr section it blinks and remains 0
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user85
selsta: yes
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user85
orbot
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selsta
exchanges block tor sometimes
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user85
could be
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user85
it was my though too
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user85
hmm i could check on exchange site
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user85
i was able to open it in tor browser
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user85
or exchange maintenanxce
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user85
selsta: yes both reject tor users
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user85
checked
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selsta
centralized exchanges almost always reject tor users
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user85
how come
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user85
what to use then?
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moneromooo
first layer vs DoS I guess. Possibly also so they can spy a bit more to assusage govt regulators.
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moneromooo
Well, more brute force attacks than DoS per se.
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selsta
quite sure the operators of bitmex got arrested by US for anti money laundering charges because they allowed US users to access their exchange using Tor
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user85
gotta run exc in russia no extradiction lol
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moneromooo
What bullshit. Too hard to go after crims, so let's forbid anything that might be useful to crims, even if it's also helpful to others.
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gingeropolous
well its not working on ubuntu 20 for me:
pastebin.mozilla.org/4JRb3b3D/raw
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gingeropolous
deterministic builds that is
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gingeropolous
clearly it needs more coffee
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gingeropolous
thats after running ./gitian-build.py --setup --docker $GH_USER $VERSION
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user85
they already have device fingerprint via js so why ban tor hmm
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user85
also i would say every ip that access any of those exchanges in clearnet is stored somewhere in a black list
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user85
eu has published a paper on digital euro a year ago saying euro may suffer unless it goes digitial and digital issuance must be done by cb
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user85
then lashing at crypto
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user85
after paper is out they pulled money out of crypto and tanked euro lol
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gingeropolous
well i may have it goin...
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gingeropolous
hrm nope
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gingeropolous
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user85
selsta: localmonero i want to buy xmr crypto currency region any - offers 0 wtf
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user85
lol
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zoom0ut
user error
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user85
looks so
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user85
checking
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zoom0ut
sometimes the site does weird things
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user85
it does not have btc wallet???
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user85
....
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user85
idiotic
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user85
ok nearly there lol
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hyc
I wonder why I never see #monero trending on twitter. looks like it should only take around 1000 tweets to register as a trend
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selsta
lots of cryptocurrencies pay for bots
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hyc
good point
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user85
nearly there :)
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user85
few bits and pieces left
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user85
anyone is already on v 18?
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user85
Refresh done, blocks received: 0
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user85
some fuckery occured
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user85
i have created sub address, now wallet is re opened no sub addresses is shown
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user85
how come?
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user85
i have managed to receive monero
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user85
now I am monero whale lol
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user85
100 usd work lol
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user85
worth
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user85
./monero-wallet-cli --daemon-address node.moneroworld.com:18089 - each time I run it a new random node is guaranteed?
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moneromooo
No.
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moneromooo
One reason is that guaranteeing this would require a guarantee that there are alwaus two nodes running at least, all the time.
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moneromooo
Another is that you're asking a third party, who knows what they do.
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user85
ok
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moneromooo
Even if that third party is honest, asshats could register 10k "different" nodes in there, hiding that they're in cahoots.
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moneromooo
And if there's one thing the world is full of, it's spying shits.
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user85
can I just download entire blockchain as a signed tar.gz?
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user85
pruned perhaps
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moneromooo
There's is an partial chain somewhere on getmonero.org, can't recall if signed. Doesn't matter though, since your node verifies it on import (if you don't do something really stupid).
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moneromooo
I'm not sire how up to date it is though.
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user85
i might even run my own open node on some vps
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user85
nearly there :)
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user85
playing with tor and monero
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user85
securing dns etc
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user85
moneromooo: how I can check which remote node I am connected to?
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user85
also when i check wallet status - no SSL
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user85
hmm
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user85
ssl fixed
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user85
:)
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moneromooo
netstat
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moneromooo
If you're lucky, set_daemon without parameters maybe.
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user85
i used --daemon-ssl-allow-any-cert to fix ssl
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moneromooo
Though if you're using a round robin DNS, it'd show you the DNS name.
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user85
i am using tor exit dns
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moneromooo
That's not really "fixing". More like... making sure noone knows what you're talking about to someone you have no idea who it is :D
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user85
moneromooo: yes
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moneromooo
I guess it is better though.
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moneromooo
If you're really sure you want to talk to some random, that is.
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user85
at least exit node cant spy anymore :)
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moneromooo
Course it can.
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user85
moneromooo: how
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moneromooo
You're accepting any cert.
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user85
so mitming ssl cert hmm
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user85
well i dont know who is at the other end
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user85
how can I request their cert? lol
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moneromooo
Likely a spy.
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user85
how likely?
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user85
hmm
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moneromooo
Spies have a good incentive to offer their "services".
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moneromooo
Non spies do it for the pleasure of doing a good deed. Spies do it for their prurient urges and for money selling the data.
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user85
ok hmm
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user85
so all remote nodes are potential spies hmm
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user85
sorry tor relay is slow sometimes
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user85
would it be faster to synch or import monero blockchain?
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user85
Pruned nodes are very useful and preferable to remote nodes, but if possible, users should run a full node and opt for pruning only in case if necessary.
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moneromooo
Probably sync.
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user85
trying to proxychains wget it it downloads a bit and stops why?
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moneromooo
One moment, I will go ask in #wget and get back to you.
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user85
nice joke lol
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user85
haha
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user85
moo well downloads in tor browser get interrupted so it is a pita
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user85
:)
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Guest4343
hyc i installed libtinfo but i have still same error
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user85
which error?
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moneromooo
I went and asked in #wget, it answered a bit and stops why?
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user85
i see you are a cow
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user85
:)
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» user85 milks moneromooo :)
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» moneromooo acts coquettish
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» moneromooo acts affronted
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user85
haha
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user85
lol
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user85
ok do you want users to download raw blockchain then why block wget :)
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user85
people use wget to overload site?
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user85
oo
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» user85 offers hay
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selsta
user85: use monerod instead of downloading the blockchain from the website
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user85
i actually have hay i can upload pic later lol
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user85
selsta: well yes however why website resists wget?
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selsta
no idea what you mean with resist wget
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selsta
try --follow or however it's called with wget
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selsta
ok wget follows redirects by default so ignore what i said
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selsta
just use monerod with --proxy instead
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user85
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user85
same result
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user85
selsta: i understand however why put raw on a website when it can not be downloaded unless via browser
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user85
puzzles me
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selsta
i don't know what the issue is, there is no intentional wget block
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user85
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user85
or proxychains wget url
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user85
it connects downloads a bit and stops
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selsta
yes i understood that by now :D
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selsta
we didn't add anything intentional to block wget / curl
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user85
well it does work with other websites
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user85
just tried to wget tor gz from their website works fine
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user85
so there is something added
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selsta
i'm quite sure the blockchain.raw isn't even updated
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selsta
it's a waste of time
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selsta
just use monerod directly
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user85
selsta: hardly since there are few more sites that have a similar issue
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user85
it is beneficial for me to understand
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user85
how human wget works :)
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user85
working
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user85
selsta: however tor is slow hehe
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selsta
how much disk space do you have left?
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selsta
--prune-blockchain should be around 45gb, otherwise 140gb or so
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selsta
i have a remote tor node that you can use in the meantime until your node is synced
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user85
selsta: i have space
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selsta
mhfsxznn5pi4xuxohj5k7unqp73sa6d44mbeewbpxnm25z3wzfogcfyd.onion:18081
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user85
i guess fastest way simply synch daemon via clearnet?
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user85
to become a node eventually
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hyc
that's usually fastest yes
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user85
yes i will expose node ip - however there is no way to fingerprint node itself or there is?
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user85
if there is then tor only lol
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selsta
do you have an ssd? that will also speed up sync
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user85
selsta: its ok I can wait now I am simply thinking about any drawbacks of syncing via clearnet
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user85
initial sync
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selsta
not aware of any fingerprinting to link your node later once you use tor
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moneromooo
There's the pruning slice. 9 values so a bit more than 3 bits.
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moneromooo
There's the current height (at which it stopped, then restarted).
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moneromooo
Possibly the contents of the txpool.
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moneromooo
The latter two only work if you connect to the same peers right before and right after though.
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user85
and pruning slice - if 0 pruning is used it does not apply?
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selsta
yes
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user85
so far i have linked my wallet to a random node nodes with and without ssl via tor - received xmr from exchange :)
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user85
also btw yes better use tor exit node that is not same as tor browser exit node to prevent correlation lol
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zoom0ut
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zoom0ut
cow
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user85
i think i can wait with sync will read more about protocol, nodes
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user85
or sync slowly via tor :)
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user85
when i send money from one address to another using local node - other nodes cant see it?
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user85
they cant link new address to old?
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Mochi101
no
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user85
you mean yes to cant?
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user85
or
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Mochi101
"they" assuming some third party like the FBI, can't link your addresses
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user85
ok
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user85
however if using random remote node then obv linkable
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user85
?
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sech1
nodes don't see your address at all
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sech1
and the recipient's address too
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sech1
and amount
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sech1
only the transaction fee, number of input and outputs
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sech1
and your IP address
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user85
ahhh cool
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sech1
Basically they can see only what you can find on xmrchain.net + they know your IP if you connect to them
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user85
what do you mean by number of input
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user85
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user85
ok you mean amount sent
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user85
and ip address
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user85
neat
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user85
then why use local bd - use remote nodes lol
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user85
db
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user85
well running node is mainly to help network right?
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zoom0ut
you see the amount sent on xmrchain,net ?
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user85
no
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user85
what is a number of output?
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zoom0ut
Number of outputs is the number of recipients but always at least 2
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user85
reading
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zoom0ut
AUII the second being either a change output back to you or if no change then a dummy output so it is not known whether or not there was change
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merope
a malicious remote node can do some funky stuff when you send transactions, causing you to reveal your real inputs in a transaction
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user85
merope: and it its receiving only?
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merope
and also tell your wallet that the transaction fee you should pay is way higher - there have been cases of people paying >10 XMR in tx fees because they did not check
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user85
nods
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merope
not much they can do if you're just scanning the chain afaik, other than send you fake data so you miss incoming transaction
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user85
. Transaction mixing means that when funds are sent, the sender randomly chooses several other users’ funds to also appear in the transaction as a possible source of the funds being sent. The cryptographical nature of the ring signature means that no one can tell which of the funds were really the source of the transaction – not even the person that gave the funds to the sender in the first place.
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user85
neat
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merope
s
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user85
i wonder how malicious selsta node is lol
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selsta
who knows
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merope
no way to truly know - that's why you run your own
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user85
merope: however how can a remote node modify wallet cli transaction data cant wallet cli somehow tell them to get lost?
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user85
not to modify ok but this funky stuff
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user85
maybe there is a way to simply block it?
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user85
overall looks good
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user85
anon features
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user85
so if i change my ip restart wallet connect to a different monero remote node and send some xmr it can not correlate me to previous me who sent xmr via another node using another ip?
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user85
*it can not link
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user85
looks like it
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user85
merope: real inputs are amount and what else?