What do you all think of the assertions in this Bitcoin video: youtube.com/watch?v=gIYiXbLRy1c

Steven_M: the masked bandit in the video reminds me of HCCP when I was discussing the intricacies of a transparent ledger with a BTC fanatic wearing such garments, he claimed BTC did not need the privacy Monero has, so I requested to take off his mask if privacy does not bother him and he proceeded to walk away whilst being visibly agitated

another conversation I recall having with a BTC person was someone wondering if I would 'switch to' or 'start using' BTC if it were to adopt privacy features; I found the question rude as it implies I hold some sort of vendetta against BTC, while in my eyes I am just avoiding it by its obvious shortcomings

the people in the video claim BTC is more relevant than Monero because 'its a store of value'

.biden

cmon man, get real :D

hide all the things

dsc_: sorry, I was AFK. Typing out my reply now.

dsc_: I get that Monero is #1 for privacy, but I must confess that I am sick and tired of the fact that it's way behind Bitcoin in terms of adoption. At the end of the day a currency is only as good as its adoption. Love your come back about removing his mask though. :-)

Steven_M: retail is clueless, whats new :P

I am positive it is only inevitable people end up at Monero once they realize the weaknesses, which will become more clearly understood as BTC adoption grows

its kind of like linux vs windows, linux is winning 'the slow battle' :P

winning on fundamentals, that is

how long do you think that will take?

ive seen linux adoption explode last 12 years

beginning of this century microsoft was calling it 'a cancer'

Steven_M: im afraid it can take a while :P

dsc_: I have to wait 12 years to spend Monero?!

perhaps some sort of 'event' needs to happen that will lead to a 'mass-awakening' :P

that surely could speed things up

The Canadian Govt stealing trucker's fiat and btc should've helped, but it hasn't yet.

Steven_M: right, events like that yeah

events/situations that show Monero is better suited as a replacement for physical cash

which is the problem Bitcoin tried to solve

Although most people don't know it, Linux is running on 2 billion smartphones, maybe again that number of routers and modems, and yet again that number of smart tvs, tablets, e-readers etc.

What are a few hundred million Windows PCs and notebooks against that :)

And the OS distribution on the Top 500 supercomputers: 100% Linux, 0% Windows

But yeah, it took about 2 decades or so for Linux to dominate to this degree

rbrunner: desktop is the last man standing. windows kernel will eventually switch to linux... resistance is futile!! (joking, but not really, some people forecast this happening)

dsc_: do you use Bitcoin as well as Monero

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Steven_M: not really, sporadically when a merchant only accepts BTC

last I used BTC was probably 2018

to buy computer hardware at an electronics store that only accepted BTC

I just wish more online stores accept bitcoin and monero in general. Both are much easier to use compared to credit cards when making payments.

flyastara: that's true.

dsc_: Sorry, I had to go AFK again. I've got a question for you and the other btc users in offtopic

See you all. :-)

Hi, where does monero expect the "unsigned_monero_tx" to be located? I always receive "Error: failed to sign transaction" when issuing "sign_transfer"

help sign_transfer

does that help with how to use the command?

tbh: not really :) (I have 0.17.3.2-release) and cant update on my airgapped system now) - I found monero-project/monero #7242/files but that seems not to be included

I actually did exactly this a few months ago and wrote down the steps - now it"s not working and I am completely confused about why; I have a file "unsigned_monero_tx" (when inspecting it its a blob but start says: "Monero unsigned tx set") which I put next to the wallet

(or could there be other reasons that this error occurs?)

could it be an issue that I created the unsigned transaction with 0.18.0.0?!

unfortunately when looking at line ~~7901 github.com/drlef/monero/blob/master/src/simplewallet/simplewallet.cpp it seems I do not have an exception (otherwise 'e.what' would be there afaict)..

In the moneor-wallet-cli current working directory. So, if you ran ./monero-wallet-cli, in ., or if you can ./build/monero-wallet-cli, in . too.

Also mkae sure both ends run the same monero-wallet-cli version.

[14:31:46] <moneromooo> Also mkae sure both ends run the same monero-wallet-cli version. <- yeh that did the trick, i downgraded my view wallet from 0.18.0.0 to 0.17.3.2 ..

highly unexpected (what about semver? :X) - ty for the help

matrixtest

it works!

haha thanks. I usually have a problem with big channels.

what is the best channel to talk about price entry in xmr?

#monero-markets

0.007

ty selsta

OKK

i will talk here

or not lol