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Gary72
how much Monero can I mine per day with a 3080Ti?
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nioc
GPU is useless for mining Monero
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nioc
well mostly useless as it is very inefficient, CPUs are where it's at but there HR varies widely depending on which one
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nioc
s/there/their
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nioc
should be benchmarks on xmrig.com but not sure if that includes much for GPUs
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CodeForCoins
morning
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sgp_
fluffypony: I'm going to try making a different Matrix room and bridging that, then migrating the old/existing Matrix room to the new one if all goes well. Are you able to approve a bridge request?
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sgp_
The problem should be that the Matrix channel has >100 people, so in theory a new Matrix room should address this. But we won't know for sure until we try
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sgp_
or ArticMine, or binaryFate, or luigi1112. All you'll need to do is reply "ok" to an incoming Matrix DM
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binaryFate
ok
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nioc
w0w
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sgp_
binaryFate: did you get a DM?
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binaryFate
yes I answered yes
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sgp_
Awesome, I think it worked! Checking a few more things...
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sgp[m]
👋 from Matrix
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NorrinRadd
seen
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binaryFate
nice
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binaryfate[m]
yay
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spacekitty420[m]
👋
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nioc
meow
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spacekitty420[m]
blep
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Stnby[m]
Heyyy, I am so confused why each room upgrade? Wipes the history
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sgp[m]
Stnby: we couldn't get Matrix to approve the bridge for the other room after a year of trying sadly
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Kanamori[m]
Hello, Monero chat!
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TimeWalker[m]
I think you can technially send a custom event that connects the room to the old room so if you scroll up you can jump back to the tombstoned room
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Stnby[m]
sgp[m]: Oh the matrix.org homeserver issues?
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xmrscott[m]
Not quite
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xmrscott[m]
The official bridge service will not let you bridge if the Matrix room has 100+ people without a special exception from the people behind Matrix.org. We have been asking for a year+ for that special exception and they had yet to act on it
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xmrscott[m]
So this was a workaround to get the Matrix room bridged: create a new room w/ < 100 people at time of bridging
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Stnby[m]
Yeah but I assume we could always self host the bridge as well
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TimeWalker[m]
Isn't there a risk that they'd notice this and disable the bridge?
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spacekitty420[m]
TimeWalker[m]: other rooms have more than 100 people, doesnt seem to be an issue
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TimeWalker[m]
spacekitty420[m]: And you're sure the other rooms didn't get an exception?
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Stnby[m]
spacekitty420[m]: But we are the 🔥currency
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spacekitty420[m]
🚀🌘
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monerobull[m]
Hello hello
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xmrscott[m]
TimeWalker[m]: If they were subject to the exception you wouldn't see IRC aliases
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NorrinRadd
i hope there's no spammers in the matrix room
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NorrinRadd
(or basically admins there that can correct spammers)
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plowsof
*invites rayatina
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xmrscott[m]
If there are spammers you can ping sgp or myself for a quick response (the admins are listed Matrix side). There should hopefully be more shortly after all of the boring setup is finished
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sgp[m]
Huge thanks to xmrscott for recommending this workaround
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nioc
your welcome
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nioc
*you're welcome
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plowsof
nioc has ran one of the best marketing campaigns i've ever seen to get this room bridged, thank you!
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selsta
is it bridged? #monero has less users than #monero-community
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selsta
or is it bridged with a new room?
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nioc
selsta: yes matrix people have just started migrating
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nioc
new room
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nioc
as i suggested
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xmrscott[m]
Yes, you are seen selsta:
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selsta
nioc: w0w
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nioc
xmrscott[m]: thank you very much :)
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nioc
all I can come up with are clueless ideas
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hex_
Hello
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hex_
I <3 Majestic Ex
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solimanhindy[m]
Hi
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Xompur[m]
HELLO HELLO
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Phyn[m]
Xompur[m]: HELLO HELLO
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mattmadness[m]
👇 MONERO TIME!!! ⏰
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stretch1
ok
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hv-bridge
<Raimundo> p
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localparticlcom[
Well hello there
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bigslim[m]
Why is blockchain sync so slow on docker intel builds? It’s doing 20 block chunks. 6gb ram given to docker instance too.
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bigslim[m]
Granted it was 50k blocks since last sync but still
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bigslim[m]
Are blocks really that full now days or is it due to tail emissions?
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nioc
20 blocks is the default
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nioc
sync time bottleneck is almost always speed of your storage, random r/w speed
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nioc
an older CPU w/o AES also is slow, I have one of those
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nioc
CPU multithreading optimization will be added at some point and can help where that is the limiting factor
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Mochi101
heh?
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nioc
tail emission has no effect on syncing
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Mochi101
No AES?
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copenhagen_bram4
<mattmadness[m]> "👇 MONERO TIME!!! ⏰" <- noooo, monero is timeless
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copenhagen_bram4
or something idk
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Mochi101
CSS for nioc to upgrade his computer.
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bigslim[m]
It’s a Synology 1520+
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bigslim[m]
It’s defo monero
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nioc
Mochi101: I just moved to a modern machine for Montero
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nioc
but thx
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Mochi101
Pentium II ?
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nioc
an old i3
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nioc
now 3900X
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Lol
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bigslim[m]
Ohs shit mochi what up man
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bigslim[m]
1520+ is aes intel celron iirc
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Mochi101
hey bigslim[m]
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nioc
once you get past the checkpoints it has to work work work
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bigslim[m]
For comparison I had 58k blocks to sync on aeon and it took like 2hrs to sync but monero like 21hrs for 51000 blocks
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bigslim[m]
I really think it’s due to block size on monero vs others.
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bigslim[m]
Ringct yada yada
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nioc
one chain is used and the other I would guess is not
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bigslim[m]
Bulletproof, bulletproof plus
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bigslim[m]
Yea kinda what I was thinking, empty blocks taking a fraction of the time to validate
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bigslim[m]
I didn’t check lmdb size before sync though to get an “average” size from 51k blocks
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bigslim[m]
Oh shit USA on World Cup, need to turn that on
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Wales will win
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Gareth bale
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DanIsnotthemanBr
And ponytail
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bigslim[m]
alexi looks so damn old its nuts
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xfedex[m]
<bigslim[m]> "For comparison I had 58k..." <- Aeon has a ringsize of 3, no CT, and much, much less transactions
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bigslim[m]
yes I know this
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bigslim[m]
current daemon syncing 20 blocks every 10 seconds
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xfedex[m]
Do you have SSD?
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xfedex[m]
With my hard-disk, syncing Monero said estimate of 1 week, but with SSD it only took a few hours
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bigslim[m]
synology with WD white 8tb drive
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bigslim[m]
9.4 hours to sync 68k blocks
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xfedex[m]
You might want to sync into an SSD if you have one, and then manually copy to the slower drive
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bigslim[m]
apparently daemon stopped last night prob due to slow sync heh
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ofrnxmr[m]
xfedex[m]: ^
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nioc
as I said, random read/write is almost always the bottleneck
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bigslim[m]
ya no room for SSD in this nas. 138.15gb current blockchain size before these 68k bocks
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ofrnxmr[m]
Pruned is 55gb
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xfedex[m]
nioc: Couldn't the database like store most recently written blocks to RAM, so that R/W operations are extremely fast, and then every once and while flush the blocks from RAM to disk?
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bigslim[m]
xfedex[m]: that is what it does curently
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CodeForCoins
Good day
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nioc
pruning only reduces the current size of the chain if you sync from scratch
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nioc
there is another way but it is even slower lol
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nioc
if you just leave the daemon running then no issues using a HDD
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bigslim[m]
full sync only.
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bigslim[m]
GOAL USA!!!
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nioc
xfedex[m]: beyond my paygrade :)
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xfedex[m]
bigslim[m]: usa vs galles match?
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bigslim[m]
y
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bigslim[m]
still cant believe qatar goalie got yellow yesterday
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nioc
just have enough RAM so entire chain is in RAM
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nioc
so fast
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bigslim[m]
Much sync! Many RAM!
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rbrunner
Like in the good old times of Monero. When I first used Aeon, it still worked like that, of course with a still pretty small blockchain.
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rbrunner
Monero itself was already LMDB when I joined in 2017.
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bigslim[m]
I mean you can have 160gb ram if you want
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nioc
great for a public node
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bigslim[m]
yea the OG aeon sync was bad pre lmdb, same for monero
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rbrunner
Of course. I just mentioned that Monero did once load all the blockchain into RAM, maybe many people don't know
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bigslim[m]
just brutal like 56k dialup
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xfedex[m]
nioc: one of the first results on amazon is 8gb of DDR3 for €22.80.
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xfedex[m]
If the blockchain pruned is 90gb then with just 256€ you can have the blockchain in memory :)
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xfedex[m]
as long as you manage to plug in 12 RAM sticks in the computer, obviously
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nioc
rbrunner: that's why my montero was created, cause people had a difficult time storing the chain in RAM
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xfedex[m]
nioc: mymonero? i thought it was created to allow europol to trace transactions
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bigslim[m]
*interpol
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nioc
not originally
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bigslim[m]
lol
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xfedex[m]
it's kinda useless by the way, as you can use monero-wallet-cli with a remote daemon
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endogenic
xfedex[m]: wallet ux on a mobile or web device which has to download the blockchain is sometimes actually not reasonable
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endogenic
so no, it's not useless
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bigslim[m]
I run node on my nas then sync mobile wallet to home node
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endogenic
nice
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bigslim[m]
I have public node too but leave those alone mostly, just keep them running for others
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endogenic
❤️
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xfedex[m]
is the node on i2p too? I have tried to make my node use i2p for p2p, but it never worked (it wasn't able to connect to the i2p seed nodes, and never had any connection over i2p)
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bigslim[m]
naw just the usual interwebs
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bigslim[m]
I tried to set up onion on nas, gave up on that after a few days
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ofrnxmr[m]
<endogenic> "xfedex: wallet ux on a mobile or..." <- Core implementation uses a lot of data
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ofrnxmr[m]
Long term, not reasonable for mobile plans or limited speeds
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endogenic
sometimes downright impossible too
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endogenic
ofrnxmr[m]:
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endogenic
i mean there's clearly privacy drawbacks. no one wants to have to store the viewkeys. that's unwanted liability
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endogenic
but one of our thoughts was someone is going to do it so it might as well be a party who can be trusted and who can execute on it well
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endogenic
it naturally made sense to standardize a lighter weight scanner api
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endogenic
hopefully we continue to innovate on improvements to it
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endogenic
there are all kinds of incremental improvements
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endogenic
just watch 😇
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dani-g5[m]1
Hello
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dani-g5[m]1
I'm a completely monero beginner, how do I start getting and using monero?
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dani-g5[m]1
I already made a wallet.
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ofrnxmr[m]
First: what wallet software did you use?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Desktop, mobile, web?
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ofrnxmr[m]
A lot of people get scammed by using scam wallets
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dani-g5[m]1
Monero GUI wallet.
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dani-g5[m]1
dani-g5[m]1: The version distributed as a flatpak
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ofrnxmr[m]
Perfect... what do you need to know?
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ofrnxmr[m]
dani-g5[m]1: Hm.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Is the flatpak version 18.1+?
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Why not from getmonero site?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Minimum V18 needed
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ofrnxmr[m]
18.1 needed for hardware wallets
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ofrnxmr[m]
Latest is 18.1.2
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dani-g5[m]1
How to actually start getting and using monero, I'm a beginner on the crypto currencies matter
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DanIsnotthemanBr
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Have a read
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dani-g5[m]1
👍
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ofrnxmr[m]
If you are US based, you can use cake wallet to spend monero in store and online at a lot of retailers by using the gift card service (cakepay)
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dani-g5[m]1
ofrnxmr[m]: 0.18.1.2
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dani-g5[m]1
ofrnxmr[m]: Well I'm not but thanks 👍
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ofrnxmr[m]
Should eventually be available outside of US
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ofrnxmr[m]
But there are other places that accept monero natively, not many but were working on that 🥹
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ofrnxmr[m]
We meaning "monero outreach" 🦗 🦖
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dani-g5[m]1
Yeah I hope it becomes available, I truly value my privacy
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its up to us to do that
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ofrnxmr[m]
Monero is pretty much production ready. There's no reason why shops cant use it
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ceetee[m]
cake wallet also had a build in exchange to other Cryptos, if a store only accepts something else this is a good option with decent privacy
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ofrnxmr[m]
When I sell goods online, i ONLY haggle if they pay monero
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dani-g5[m]1
Oh also, should I use something very secure like keepassxc to store my wallet password?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Keepass is perfect
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ofrnxmr[m]
I dont know about "xc" though... one of them is good
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ofrnxmr[m]
I use DX on mobile
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Yeah its xc
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ofrnxmr[m]
dani-g5[m]1: If you never backup your seed, at least keep a copy of your wallet files (which are encrypted)
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ofrnxmr[m]
Or do both, preferrably
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dani-g5[m]1
ofrnxmr[m]: Did that already, so I'm fine for that :)
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interloper[m]
took ages to join back, finally
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copenhagen_bram4
<ofrnxmr[m]> "If you never backup your seed..." <- My Cake Wallet app crashed a while ago, boy am I glad I had the seeds written down
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copenhagen_bram4
speaking of which, I had been putting off restoring my bitcoin and litecoin wallets until now, which I just did... yay, it's all there
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copenhagen_bram4
Seriously, if you're reading this and you don't have your seed written down:
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copenhagen_bram4
Go to the store right now. Buy one of those little pocket sized composition notebooks and a pen or pencil if you don't have one. Go home and write down all your seeds in that little notebook. Then keep it on your desk, or in a bolted safe, depending on your threat model.
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copenhagen_bram4
s/your/any/, s/seed/seeds/
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nioc
Write it down and keep somewhere safe
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nioc
Then write it down again and put it in a different safe location
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nioc
Then do it again
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copenhagen_bram4
yeah i thought about suggesting writing it all down again and putting it in your wallet, but i figured i should wait until i get around to following my advice
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copenhagen_bram4
* yeah i thought about suggesting writing it all down again and putting it in your wallet, but i figured i should wait until i get around to following my own advice
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copenhagen_bram4
but on second thought, why not give that advice now? I'll get around to it one of these days
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nioc
Is your wallet a safe location? lol
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ofrnxmr[m]
I create a backup and save that (cake backup feature is MIA)
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nioc
After all that find a way such that your monero lives on when you die
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copenhagen_bram4
nioc: should I call you Mr. Tib or Mr Elit
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ofrnxmr[m]
Yes I have all of my seeds saved, but those are a last resort. Much more efficient to restore a backup than it is to resync
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nioc
I am think of burying my seed somewhere and making a treasure map
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copenhagen_bram4
> <@nioc:libera.chat> After all that find a way such that your monero lives on when you die
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copenhagen_bram4
* i guess one would have to find the time to give their grandkids or other family all their passwords and seeds when they're older
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nioc
Yes, everyone's situation is different, whatever works
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copenhagen_bram4
nioc: careful, i think it was nikola tesla who once predicted the silver markets would be bullish, went all in on silver and buried it somewhere, was correct, and when he went to dig his stash up to sell it, discovered that some landscaping had been done since he had buried it
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copenhagen_bram4
and he never found it
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nioc
Didn't hear that one lol
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nioc
Oh my
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copenhagen_bram4
and much like the silver in the story, Ctrl-F silver on tesla's wikipedia article brings up nothing
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copenhagen_bram4
hmm
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copenhagen_bram4
lemme keep searching
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copenhagen_bram4
I wonder if it was someone else? Or some other detail is incorrect?
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copenhagen_bram4
imma see if r/tipofmytongue can help me