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L29Ah
is it possible to issue my own tokens on Monero blockchain/network?
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selsta
no
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Mochi101
Come on, give him the non-complicated answer selsta
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Mochi101
You're always so technical.
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bigslim[m]
I tried xmr node on pi. It was death.
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bigslim[m]
Would not personally recommend that unless you have no other option.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Same
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ofrnxmr[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
Much better on android
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ofrnxmr[m]
Disclaimer: I have never tried on PiNode, but know the pi is not suited for running a monero node due to lack of hardware istructions, namely aes
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AustinHuang[m]1
what is the Autosave function for in your monero wallet?
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rbrunner
haveno.network is down for me for the second day. Anybody knows something? Pinging ErCiccione and woodser
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monerobull[m]
Erciccione is gone
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monerobull[m]
SGP said something about the domain going down for a bit
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rbrunner
Yes, I know that they retire from Haveno, and said something about a server switch, but if that's the problem it's taking quite long already ...
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rbrunner
I want my Seraphis workgroup Matrix room back :)
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monerobull[m]
This is why people dont want to deal with federation
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rbrunner
I use to say that everything comes with trade-offs. Centralization as well as federation in this case.
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monerobull[m]
All the pain of a p2p network with many small centralized hubs that are way more likely to go down than something run by a megacorp
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rbrunner
Just wait until the longtime outages of Twitter start because nobody left there really knows anymore how to get the systems back to their feet
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monerobull[m]
The new thing ex Twitter CEO was working on looked kinda neat, supposed to be federated but you can easily swap Homeservers without losing anything
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ajs_[m]
It is probably better to just rebrand haveno and get a new domain
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ajs_[m]
I never liked the name
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ajs_[m]
To similar to the scam coin
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monerobull[m]
Cakeveno /s
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rbrunner
Yeah, all the confusion caused by a brand-new name will definitely improve things.
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rbrunner
People still stumble over Kovri, after literally years :)
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monerobull[m]
Better now than once it's mainnet
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rbrunner
Ah, that scamcoin.
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rbrunner
There are what, 20,000 "coins" now, I am sure one is called like the new name you come up with
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rbrunner
Funny anyway how the IRC channel opened as a companion for the Matrix room on the Haveno server is still up
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ajs_[m]
Reminder: MoneroKon 2023 Meeting: Sat. 26th Nov. 2022 @ 18:00 UTC - Review, approval of CFP & CCS Drafts -
monero-project/meta #753
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jkhsjdhjs
hey, I have the same issue from yesterday again, 2 threads using 80% cpu each
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jkhsjdhjs
Height: 2763439/2763439 (100.0%) on mainnet, not mining, net hash 2.59 GH/s, v16, 24(out)+74(in) connections, uptime 0d 16h 24m 12s
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jkhsjdhjs
Received 3092083125 bytes (2.88 GB) in 2067066 packets in 16.4 hours, average 51.13 kB/s = 0.00% of the limit of 1.00 GB/s
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jkhsjdhjs
Sent 24024817191 bytes (22.37 GB) in 1591485 packets in 16.4 hours, average 397.27 kB/s = 0.04% of the limit of 1.00 GB/s
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jkhsjdhjs
I also have logs with log-level=1, but I don't know what may be relevant, there's so much being logged
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moneromoooo
Check where the CPU is going using: sudo perf top -a
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moneromoooo
Let it run for a dozen seconds or so. Paste the top dozen lines to paste.debian.net.
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moneromoooo
If it's fe_sq, fe_mul, etc, it's verifying txes.
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moneromoooo
But if you're synced, it's less likely.
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jkhsjdhjs
alright, it's running. but I think my monerod binary doesn't include debug symbols
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jkhsjdhjs
it looks like it didn't take too long for the issue to come back. I'll build it again with debug symbols and report back in a few hours
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ofrnxmr[m]
?????
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ofrnxmr[m]
Do what moo asked please
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plowsof
+1
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jkhsjdhjs
the problem is that without debug symbols perf top will only show addresses instead of function names, which won't be helpful
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ofrnxmr[m]
And if youre running a custom binary, try running the release version first..!!
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jkhsjdhjs
alright, I'll check with the official binary
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ofrnxmr[m]
10x more uploads than download. Is your rpc open to the public?
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jkhsjdhjs
nope
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jkhsjdhjs
I have restricted rpc with login required and unrestricted rpc for localhost
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jkhsjdhjs
alright, now running the official binary. perf top now also shows the correct names. let's see if this issue comes back
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ofrnxmr[m]
I hope you are also using default settings
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jkhsjdhjs
nope. if this issue occurs with the official binary with any settings, it's an issue with monerod and worth debugging IMO
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jkhsjdhjs
I may run it again with default settings - if the issue occurs again - to verify that it's specific to my settings though
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jkhsjdhjs
to narrow it down
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ofrnxmr[m]
Either
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ofrnxmr[m]
- run 100% of your reproducible code (cant because you disabled debug symbols, lol?)
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ofrnxmr[m]
- run 100% release code and config
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ofrnxmr[m]
If release code and config have an issue, we may have a bug
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ofrnxmr[m]
Also helps if you share your actual start commands / flags
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jkhsjdhjs
I installed monerod via my distributions packages, this is why debug symbols were disabled
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jkhsjdhjs
flags are just --config /etc/monerod.conf --non-interactive
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jkhsjdhjs
can also share my config, one sec
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ofrnxmr[m]
Who maintains distro packages for us?
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jkhsjdhjs
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jkhsjdhjs
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jkhsjdhjs
this is the package I used
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ofrnxmr[m]
Might be ssl stuff, but that shouldbhave been fixed in 18.0
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ofrnxmr[m]
Why did you add these ssl flags
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ofrnxmr[m]
`rpc-ssl-allow-any-cert=1 rpc-ssl-private-key=/var/lib/monero/rpc_ssl.key rpc-ssl-certificate=/var/lib/monero/rpc_ssl.crt`
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jkhsjdhjs
rpc-ssl-allow-any-cert=1 ignores client certificates afaict and let's any client connect afaict
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jkhsjdhjs
and the other two are just the path to the certificate I generated with monero-gen-ssl-cert
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jkhsjdhjs
or isn't that necessary?
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ofrnxmr[m]
The certs are generated automatically
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jkhsjdhjs
ah
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ofrnxmr[m]
rpc-ssl=enabled
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ofrnxmr[m]
Is all that you need unless you are using custom certs
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jkhsjdhjs
ah I see
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jkhsjdhjs
if the issue occurs again I will remove that and test again if that's the culprit
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ofrnxmr[m]
If it persists, Run perf top first
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jkhsjdhjs
will do
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plowsof
whonix is the only one under ccs sponsorship
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ajs_[m]
isn't there one for debian too
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plowsof
ah yes, that is the debian repository (maintained by/for whonix)
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sgp[m]
rbrunner: I didn't realize "no wallet left behind" was a Haveno room
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plowsof
no room left behind , pls share x
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rbrunner
You did not, as in "past tense"?
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sgp[m]
I don't plan to continue running a Haveno matrix server. We can use matrix.org or monero.social
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sgp[m]
rbrunner: what accounts are admins of that matrix room? They should be able to add new room addresses
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rbrunner
As far as I know I am the only admin of that room. Adding a new room address, with everything down, not sure I understand how that should work.
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sgp[m]
rbrunner: this account can't accept DMs from Libera
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sgp[m]
rbrunner: Rooms exist on multiple servers. Was your matrix account on haveno.network?
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rbrunner
Yes.
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rbrunner
Was.
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sgp[m]
Grr. Gross. Silly. Sorry, this channel wasn't communicated to me as a Haveno channel
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rbrunner
I understood ErCiccione to say that the whole Haveno infrastructure will just get copied 1-1. Wasn't that the idea?
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sgp[m]
I'll see if we can set it up for a bit, but I have no intention of running a Haveno matrix that only a couple people use. Might not be till Mon; it's a holiday weekend
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rbrunner
I knew about the server change, but did not worry, or prepare anything, based on this.
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sgp[m]
You are literally 1 of 2 users
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ajs_[m]
sgp: make your life easier and just rebrand :)
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rbrunner
We even had an IRC bridge set up for that. selsta and I put hours into that.
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rbrunner
plus ErCiccione.
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sgp[m]
I'm sorry you're upset, but I wasn't aware a Monero wallet migration channel was dependent on the Haveno server. It wouldn't have come to mind. As mentioned, I'll look into setting up from backup so you can get in and migrate things away
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sgp[m]
Is there a reason monero.social wasn't used for this?
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rbrunner
History. My user was on Haveno for historic reasons, so I opened a room, and naturally it got opened there.
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rbrunner
After I got confirmation from ErCiccione that they are cool with that room being there, that was it.
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rbrunner
Not sure whether it's even worth to try to "migrate things away". Maybe that's just wasted time. If that does not work perfectly, e.g. without people having to rejoin anything, I don't think it's worth it.
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rbrunner
Could I open a room on monero.social myself?
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ofrnxmr[m]
I think it should migrate easily?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Irc shouldn't depend on the domain, and matrix allows setting additional addresses (and changing them)
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rbrunner
Yeah, nice and all, and if one of those addresses goes down, things just continue smoothly? This guy here with 40 years in IT doubts.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ideally, it SHOULD be on monero.social and matrix.org. doesnt make sense for cake to host monero wallet development, a bit of COI even
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rbrunner
Look, the room that got nuked was already the second one. We had to evacuate the first one to make the IRC bridge possible (it was encrypted).
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ofrnxmr[m]
Was it on monero.social / matrix.org or reliant on back room dealings
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rbrunner
So if I do something now, I want it to be as sure and as foolproof, and simple, as possible.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Js
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ofrnxmr[m]
Id think that would imply a migration to known reliable servers
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rbrunner
What do you mean with "back room dealings"? I reported already that it got created on that Haveno server because my user was there
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ofrnxmr[m]
I mean, haveno changing hands and your room being dropped, and cake having to host it again so you can migrate off of their server
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ofrnxmr[m]
You made the room, I assume, you assumed that haveno.network was not going to do that ^, but haveno is not monero and haveno changed hands.
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rbrunner
Yeah, I was indeed assuming that nobody nukes my room :)
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plowsof
after the migration , maybe we can add the room to the hangouts getmonero page @rbrunner
monero-project/monero-site #2096/files
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rbrunner
And as I said, I got the impression (maybe my bad, who knows) from ErCiccione that everything will just migrate, so I did not prepare anything beforehand.
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rbrunner
Just waiting, blissfully unaware.
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plowsof
its out of your hands rbrunner don't worry
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rbrunner
I don't worry, I am not even particularly upset, because that's not productive. I just want one thing, with that *third* try: Make it right.
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plowsof
we must wait until at least Monday
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rbrunner
So, people, what is right? I assume nobody will nuke monero.social anytime soon, right? Is that considered Monero core infrastructure?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Monero.social matrix is managed by core team
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rbrunner
Who calls the shots there? Who is all-mighty admin there?
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ofrnxmr[m]
I dont know the full details, but it used to be managed BT Diego, but core has control now
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rbrunner
Ok, and as of now it's probably "too big to fail", I hope?
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plowsof
maybe reschedule the seraphis meeting to the MRL channel temporarily if its an issue? (as it might not be fixed on monday)
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ofrnxmr[m]
Should be as solid as getmonero, id assume. But i personally would like some reassurance that core is indeed running the matrix servers
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rbrunner
I was thinking of that, but the problem might be to reach people in time. I think it's not a good idea to schedule a meeting for Monday under these circumstances.
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Stnby[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: Who manages these exactly?
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plowsof
ill ask , start your timers
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ofrnxmr[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: ^ Stnby:
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Stnby[m]
Aint solid for shit
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ofrnxmr[m]
Tldr: I dont know. I want to know
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rbrunner
selsta, are you around? If we start a brand new room on monero.social, will we need a brand-new IRC bridge, or will it be possible to re-configure the one we have?
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selsta
i'm around yes
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rbrunner
Did you get the story with the nuked Haveno room already? Puff, smoke, gone :)
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Stnby[m]
A sec I will try to find the rant of not knowing how firewall works, using cloudflare blindly, using End of life distros
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Stnby[m]
* the rant: of
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Stnby[m]
* A sec I will try to find the rant: not knowing how firewall works, using cloudflare blindly, using End of life distros
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selsta
it should be possible to reconfigure the bridge, I think we did something similar for #monero
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rbrunner
Or, if we need a new one, is that a drama, will we annoy somebody, e.g. at Libera, or is that just daily business?
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selsta
I don't think Libera is involved with this at all
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selsta
we just need a new matrix room and then reconfig the bridge
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rbrunner
So that's good.
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rbrunner
Do you happen to know whether I could open that myself on monero.social, or do I need help?
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ofrnxmr[m]
After sgp sets up haveno.network for you, try just adding it to monero.social and matrix.org
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ofrnxmr[m]
Then deleting the haveno.network address.
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ofrnxmr[m]
I imagine the bridge should remain (?) But that bridging stuff was annoying
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ofrnxmr[m]
xmrscott @xmrscott:monero.social: is good to ask
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nioc
I remember when the rooms were only IRC
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plowsof
ive not had confirmation yet but im going to hazard a guess that the 2kusd~month on matrix infra is probably monero .social
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nioc
I would like this as my username >> Just waiting, blissfully unaware
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rbrunner
The thought crossed my mind, why make everything about 100 times more complex, and just use the IRC room #no-wallet-left-behind.
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rbrunner
But I got addicted, in a way, to the effortless logging of Matrix.
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rbrunner
It's only about for 2 month that I started to use Matrix in earnest, and already lost one room because "encrypted" and a second one by "backroom deals". Oh joy :)
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sech1
just run IRC on your server 24/7, and you'll get the logging
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sgp[m]
rbrunner: it's pretty easy to use the Libra bridge that matrix.org provides. That's what all the other Monero channels use. I can help walk you through it
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rbrunner
There is a bridge already, and selsta is in the know, that's problably not an issue.
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sgp[m]
<plowsof> "ive not had confirmation yet but..." <- Yeah, which Cake also pays for :p
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sgp[m]
But Core controls. We just reimburse / prepay
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rbrunner
I just mulling over whether to start a brand-new room, or rely on yet another one of those overly complex Matrix functions, rooms having multiple names / addresses / whatever
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selsta
rbrunner: I'm not in the know :D I just accepted the bridge
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rbrunner
The content of the old room is not that valuable, after all
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plowsof
280 eur a month cake pays for it i think
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sgp[m]
rbrunner: I can handle the whole setup if you want. We can do it now if you don't need the old room, or later when our infra team is back from vacation if you need the old room
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rbrunner
Oh, my conversation with ErCiccione with the details of the bridge was on the nuked server :)
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sgp[m]
But you'll want to make a Matrix account on monero.social so I can make it admin
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rbrunner
If I can technically handle myself, I would gladly do it myself.
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rbrunner
Temporary admin, until set up, and then merely leave me admin of that single room, would probably make sense, right?
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sgp[m]
Okay. Ping me if you need help then, or wait till Mon for our team to get back from vacation
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sgp[m]
Usually it's good to have another admin but doesn't need to be me obviously
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sgp[m]
Bus factor and all
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rbrunner
Not sure I understand, but I can create a user in the next half hour or so on monero.social, and then you can do the magic so that I can create a new room there?
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plowsof
xmrscott told me how to do it yesterday so i must pass on the knowledge of bridging matrix to irc ?
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rbrunner
We will see. One step after the other :)
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rbrunner
I need some snacks after all this drama. Back in half an hour.
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ofrnxmr[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
Thats a lunch break! C ya soon
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sgp[m]
Guys this is easy :) I'll set up the room and make you admin rbrunner: once you have another account
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Siren[m]
<plowsof> "ive not had confirmation yet but..." <- It's probably more like 40 euros a month max
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ofrnxmr[m]
"Cake Wallet sponsors the "tools" server with the mailing list, GitLab, Matrix, Taiga, and Weblate."
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MajesticBank
matrix shouldn't need more then 1 server
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plowsof
the 2k~usd number is the "all the things" that Core pay for with the general fund and the above^ is 280/eur
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MajesticBank
monero hosting is like 2k/month, that's way more advanced
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plowsof
true
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Stnby[m]
Damn, thats a lot of money, is there a breakdown?
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MajesticBank
since the last binaries issue I guess, there is a lot of "guardians" and "watchdogs"
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MajesticBank
there is a description of monero hosting on github
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MajesticBank
pretty advanced stuff
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plowsof
majesticbank sponsor with hosting costs of 2kusd/month , cake pay 280eur a month to clarify
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plowsof
XD
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MajesticBank
we all supporting, that's important
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monerobull[m]
I'm thankful for all sponsors ๐
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Stnby[m]
MajesticBank: I could not find it
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ofrnxmr[m]
Cake also supports monero by making Diego force monerujo back into development ๐๐๐
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ofrnxmr[m]
#letscompete
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ofrnxmr[m]
monerobull[m]: Seriously.
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ofrnxmr[m]
And donators. And devs.
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plowsof
i appreciate every piconero here
nitter.it/watchfund
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ofrnxmr[m]
(Donators to ccs)
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MajesticBank
we need somehow that get money into general fund each month
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plowsof
totals?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Id appreciate it more if community was involved in GF
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MajesticBank
trough some business, so as biz grows monero GF gets more money
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sgp[m]
rbrunner: I set up #no-wallet-left-behind:monero.social, which I can make you admin of
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Stnby[m]
I am still surprised how the hosting could cost 2k a month, especially when you can get a dedicated Threadripper server with 128 GB of RAM for 150Eur/mon
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Stnby[m]
* for 150Eur/mon, sure all 3 to make a proxmox cluster, still 450
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Stnby[m]
* for 150Eur/mon, sure all 3 to make a proxmox cluster, still 450 max
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alpharabius[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: Grand Fund right?
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Stnby[m]
* for 150Eur/mon, sure all 3 to make a Proxmox cluster, still 450 max
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Siren[m]
Stnby[m]: It's hosted on Hetzner too so there's no privacy tax lol
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plowsof
Haveno is meant to help us with that (a supply of donations)
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ofrnxmr[m]
General fund
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alpharabius[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: I get them confused
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Mochi101
Hetzner is killing all crypto related stuff.
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Siren[m]
No they're not? It's only mining
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ofrnxmr[m]
plowsof: Depends who you ask and when
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plowsof
nodes too
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sgp[m]
yeah they're killing nodes too
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Mochi101
Siren[m], nodes too
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Stnby[m]
Nodes can be hosted elsewhere
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Siren[m]
That's not everything crypto related
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Mochi101
ok
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Stnby[m]
Although they won't be able to detect a node if its SSL
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MajesticBank
evil people will report probably
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MajesticBank
if public node
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Stnby[m]
put it behind a proxy :D
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MajesticBank
still would stay away from company with hate to crypto, there is so many alternatives
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Stnby[m]
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Stnby[m]
Our Gitlab for example is hosted on Hetzner
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Stnby[m]
"Behind CloudFlare" ๐
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Stnby[m]
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Stnby[m]
Our Gitlab for example is hosted on Hetzner
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Stnby[m]
Not too sure why cloudflare proxy was enabled for gitlab if firewall is not configured
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Siren[m]
The reverse proxy config is also funky here
ccs.getmonero.org/proposals
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Stnby[m]
There also is this grandma of a server lists.getmonero.org with End of Life distro. If no one has time to maintain these, we can help. It's just that no one is asking for help :d
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Stnby[m]
s/d/D/
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nioc
fluffypony: help is being offered ^^
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plowsof
yeah theres an open issue about the proposals link adding "proposals/" fixes it ๐คท
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Stnby[m]
plowsof: port_in_redirect off;
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Stnby[m]
volia
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Siren[m]
better yet, stop using nginx and get caddy
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Stnby[m]
HTTP3 much wow
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fluffypony
Stnby[m]: hosting costs a lot because of bandwidth
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fluffypony
the server isn't particularly highly specced
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fluffypony
but it's on a 10gbps unmetered
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fluffypony
and it's 1 hop from London, in a jurisdiction that is fairly safe from a data protection / liberal laws perspective
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uncle_rae
fluffypony: are there any hardware wallets that you'd recommend?
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fluffypony
uncle_rae: Ledger and Trezor are fine
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uncle_rae
any preference between the two
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uncle_rae
?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Google
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» uncle_rae slaps ofrnxmr[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
Ofrnxmr dodges and giggles
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Stnby[m]
fluffypony: Is it a single server?
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Siren[m]
nice certificates
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BigmenPixel[m]
Does anybody use the yggdrasil network?
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BigmenPixel[m]
BigmenPixel[m]: Is there a monero node?
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Stnby[m]
fluffypony: Could load balance smaller net ones, I also think 10 Gbps is overkill we can shave all of that bandwidth down by fixing cache-control headers
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Stnby[m]
* cache-control headers.
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u221f
i guess servicing monero binaries needs bandwidth
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MajesticBank
i once tried serving signed monero binaries for monero, whole antivirus community crashed on us with reports
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MajesticBank
it's good we have getmonero.org
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Stnby[m]
u221f: Seems like they use some cdn for downloads, so no
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u221f
Stnby[m]: ok, so just the website then
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Stnby[m]
Yeah 10 Gbps is insane tho, no one close to 10Gbps visists getmonero.org
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Stnby[m]
+ its a static site and CF sits on top of it
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Stnby[m]
100 Mbps is max you need honestly
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Stnby[m]
Cache control is far more important than bandwidth in this case
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u221f
despite cloudflare you may need a beefy connection
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Stnby[m]
u221f: You do, thats the field I work in.
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u221f
imho monero is too important project to discuss downgrading its main web server :)
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Stnby[m]
Not downgrading, could speed it up by a lot and cut a lot of costs
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Stnby[m]
* of costs, which can be spent elsewhere gitlab or other stuff
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Stnby[m]
* of costs, which can be spent elsewhere gitlab, matrix or other stuff
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u221f
(i'm all for optimizing the httpd etc.)
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Stnby[m]
Varnish cache + caddy + proper cache-control headers (cache busting) + Cloudflare
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Stnby[m]
10 Gbps server is waste of resources
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sgp[m]
rbrunner: can you please confirm that rbrunner7:monero.social is you?
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Stnby[m]
Online banks use less bandwidth, Ive worked for one :D
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Siren[m]
u221f: it looks like it's Microsoft Personal Webserver. Is this header a joke? `PWS/8.3.1.0.8`
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Siren[m]
If not, it cannot be downgraded more. It's already rock bottom.
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u221f
Siren[m]: possibly x)
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Siren[m]
The worst web server you could ever use
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Stnby[m]
Siren[m]: No comments...
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rbrunner
Yes, rbrunner7 is me, and forget about that 8 user, that's the wrong one to configure for this
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rbrunner
Both at monero.social
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Stnby[m]
Whats this? is this website hosted by Chineese?
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Stnby[m]
s/Chineese/Chinese/
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Siren[m]
It looks www.getmonero.org was hacked by chinese who used it to host random crap. Look at the SSL certificates here:
getmonero.org:9101
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selsta
wasn't there a specific CDN for China?
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ofrnxmr[m]
#monero-site:haveno.network repost?
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Siren[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: can't join
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Siren[m]
www.getmonero.org is horribly misconfigured you have so many ports open with these expired certs
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Stnby[m]
I think its some Chinese Microsoft server 2000 hosting provider, that getmonero.org uses
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nioc
selsta: I think so
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Siren[m]
* It looks like www.getmonero.org was
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alpharabius[m]
<Siren[m]> "www.getmonero.org is horribly..." <- They don't have ufw? Or maintainers?
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Siren[m]
alpharabius[m]: they're using some unknown chinese WAF
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Siren[m]
looks like shared hosting tbh that's why so many ports are open
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alpharabius[m]
But vpses are so cheap
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alpharabius[m]
I bought one for a year for like 12 bucks
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Stnby[m]
getmonero.org is behind Cloudflare
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Stnby[m]
www.getmonero.org is behind something weird
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Stnby[m]
Thats not how you are supposed to do it
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Siren[m]
Siren[m]: `echo "topkek" | nc www.getmonero.org 9103`
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plowsof
i remember when the getmonero certs expired, the "www" was working but the other not.. or vice versa
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Stnby[m]
vise versa
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Stnby[m]
* vice versa
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Stnby[m]
This is such ghetto of a setup
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Siren[m]
>chinese shared hosting
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alpharabius[m]
Ikr
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u221f
lol
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alpharabius[m]
Like get me on the team
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Stnby[m]
I will spend some weekend modifying the jekyll conf
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Stnby[m]
* jekyll conf to get it ready for cache busting
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u221f
Its all cloudflare and obscure configurations (like PWS/8.3.1.0.8)
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ofrnxmr[m]
binaryFate @binaryFate:libera.chat: fluffypony:
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alpharabius[m]
Tor solos cloudflare
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Stnby[m]
No one cares about Tor, there is a dedicated onion service
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Siren[m]
y'all never explained how malicious binaries found their way into downloads.getmonero.org either ๐ญ
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Stnby[m]
Maybe do some housekeeping on the main site
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Stnby[m]
Can literally download random php files
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Stnby[m]
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alpharabius[m]
Siren[m]: ๐๐๐
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alpharabius[m]
Who is managing this site
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Stnby[m]
Siren[m]: Oh yes lmao
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alpharabius[m]
I literally cannot ever get caught lacking like this
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ofrnxmr[m]
Didnt you get raided by the feds
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alpharabius[m]
Whoa that was a different situation
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ofrnxmr[m]
๐
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plowsof
twice
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alpharabius[m]
It was shitposting going too far
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Stnby[m]
Smurfs raided you and placed a malicious exe
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ofrnxmr[m]
Raided and has his own computer bugged physically now
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alpharabius[m]
Not my own
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alpharabius[m]
My mom's
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Siren[m]
good opsec to live at mom's basement
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alpharabius[m]
alpharabius[m]: Now all they gon see is someone looking at microsoft word for like hours
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ofrnxmr[m]
"It wasnt me. It was my mom. I swear. Lock her ass up and throw away the key"
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Stnby[m]
Should have used LUKS, kiddo.
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alpharabius[m]
Stnby[m]: I used LUKS lol, even on my vms
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sgp[m]
The new Matrix room for the No Wallet Left Behind project is #no-wallet-left-behind:monero.social . It is also bridged to the Libera channel of the same name
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Stnby[m]
Once I got ready for my first flight, encrypted the drive... After arrival I had such a long uptime on my laptop that I forgot my LUKS pass.
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Stnby[m]
Couldn't reboot until I cracked my own pass. At least I remebered chunks of it
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Stnby[m]
* of it.
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RavFX[m]1
LUKS everywhere, just don't forget passphrases
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RavFX[m]1
You can salt it with some TPM data too so the correct passphrase won't work except if the hardware is the same exact authorized hardware
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alpharabius[m]
My rooms probably bugged tho, and i joined IT club at school(the guy who runs it is an ex-NSA agent)
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alpharabius[m]
As i just learned
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alpharabius[m]
alpharabius[m]: So now i'm switching to baking club
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RavFX[m]1
Can patch cryptsetup to add self destruct key
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RavFX[m]1
and put it on a sticker under the desk
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Siren[m]
alpharabius[m]: Cooking some space brownies now
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Stnby[m]
> <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> Can patch cryptsetup to add self destruct key
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Stnby[m]
> and put it on a sticker under the desk
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Stnby[m]
you can do all sorts of things in initramfs
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Stnby[m]
display feet sucking ascii art before confronting NSA and wiping the partition
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Stnby[m]
Although they probably pull the drive out before booting into it
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Stnby[m]
and make a hard copy
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alpharabius[m]
Stnby[m]: I'mma display a monero emblem or smth
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alpharabius[m]
Anyways i gotta do something, i'mma head out, dm me if yall want me to do anything
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Stnby[m]
They create an image of it, not too sure how they do that on soldered on SSDs, but they do. Its in their script
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RavFX[m]1
They might want to know where are you're monero
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ofrnxmr[m]
sgp:
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RavFX[m]1
and might try to get the key (using a 2$ wrench)
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monero666[m]
Stnby hello
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Stnby[m]
monero666[m]: Hi
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Siren[m]
yEs hEllo
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monero666[m]
Where are you from stnby
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alpharabius[m]
Stnby[m]: It's the 25 words spammer
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Siren[m]
monero666 sir
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Stnby[m]
Mongolia]
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Stnby[m]
* Mongolia\
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Stnby[m]
* Mongolia
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RavFX[m]1
Yeah, normal forensics is to create image of drives.
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RavFX[m]1
Won't work with soldered SSD like Apple, but in that case they have other backdoor (specifically for apple, they can get all the data without even seizing the device)
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ofrnxmr[m]
monero666: you missed it
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monero666[m]
Wowww
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ofrnxmr[m]
We were just going through a list of ips and expired certs
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alpharabius[m]
The 25 words strikes again
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ofrnxmr[m]
๐
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monero666[m]
Hey stanby. I did screenshoot your profil picture
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Siren[m]
Why
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Stnby[m]
monero666[m]: Now make it into NFT
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monero666[m]
Stnby is right
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alpharabius[m]
Siren[m]: Identity theft i assume
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ofrnxmr[m]
Haha
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monero666[m]
Turkish is left on picture
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ofrnxmr[m]
Monero666 couldnt steal water from a lake
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Stnby[m]
We all are Turks
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alpharabius[m]
True
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Siren[m]
alpharabius[m]: monero666 is a celebrity himself
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ofrnxmr[m]
Stnby[m]: Especially me
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monero666[m]
I like picture
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ofrnxmr[m]
Do you like me?
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Siren[m]
Kimsin lan sen :DDD
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ofrnxmr[m]
Sir?
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Stnby[m]
monero666[m]: I like yours as well
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Stnby[m]
* as well. Mhmmm Blueeee/
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Stnby[m]
* as well. Mhmmm Blueeee.
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alpharabius[m]
Someone's gonna summon the banhammer like they're thor lol
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ofrnxmr[m]
Why u wanna bully stnby :( when im right here
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monero666[m]
Siren[m]: What
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its Mongolian
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ofrnxmr[m]
Use translator
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RavFX[m]1
I wonder how much Stnby picture NFT can see, like 0.0001 ETH or something? Is ever worth the fees? not that most NFT projects are like -99.xx% already
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Siren[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: Mashallah
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RavFX[m]1
s/see/sell/
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alpharabius[m]
Anyways i'm boutta head out fr now
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Stnby[m]
RavFX[m]1: I am with the Ankara star, worth a lot more
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Stnby[m]
Has ottoman flag as well
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Stnby[m]
extra value
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RavFX[m]1
But it's just pixel with colorz
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RavFX[m]1
And you can screenshot it anyway, as I did
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monero666[m]
Stnby[m]: You like from european or north america or australia or new zeland
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Stnby[m]
monero666[m]: Mongolia
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monero666[m]
Wow
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Stnby[m]
I was deported there by ottomans
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nioc
maybe bridging rooms was a mistake, this channel used to be for serious discussion
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Stnby[m]
the 666 started it, I think it will end very soon
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monero666[m]
The monero group started the kidding
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ofrnxmr[m]
I think sooner or later we all just put him on ignore
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ofrnxmr[m]
So he talks to himself for s few days before realizing ๐ฅน
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ofrnxmr[m]
But I dont mind forcing him to make 30 sccounts a day
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Stnby[m]
monero666[m]: I am still confused. Where did you buy your ledger?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its harder to make accounts than it is to ban ๐ฅน
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ofrnxmr[m]
HE DOESNT HAVE ONE
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Stnby[m]
The how did he get 25 words?
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monero666[m]
Stnby[m]: Where is your profil picture
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Stnby[m]
monero666[m]: Ankara, next to the castle
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monero666[m]
Stnby[m]: bro seriously, where are you from? I promise I will tell
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ofrnxmr[m]
Stnby[m]: Find outs all this and more, on the next exciting episode of dont make me take my belt off
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ofrnxmr[m]
Guy probably only owns eth
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plowsof
nioc the matrix #monero has been used as the landing point for everyone/anyone on the internet / off-topic -community for a long time. i guess we should start pushing the actual #monero-offtopic:monero.social . its not uncommon for people to ask "what blockchain is monero on" "can i stake monero" in this room
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Stnby[m]
Didn't know we had 3 different rooms of different seriousness
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Stnby[m]
1. Dev chat (very serious)
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Stnby[m]
2. This one (this one)
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Stnby[m]
3. Off topic (ledger)
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Siren[m]
monero666[m]: #monero-offtopic:monero.social gel yarram
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plowsof
MRL - super serious (i dont have emoji rights)
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ofrnxmr[m]
We have multiple
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spackle_xmr[m]
<Siren[m]> "y'all never explained how..." <- I hadn't heard of that, is this what you are referring to?
web.getmonero.org/2019/11/19/warning-compromised-binaries.html
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ofrnxmr[m]
Community for work/groups, community dev for non core dev, markets for price tall
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ofrnxmr[m]
^^ yes
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monero666[m]
Siren[m]: What.
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nioc
plowsof: yes it is the #1 room because of the name, people first come here. I used to answer the simple questions but the room became quiet sometime after the move to libera and the matrix room starting. I was looking forward to helping and instead I find this o_0
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monero666[m]
Siren[m]: What do you mean
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monero666[m]
monero666[m]: What do u mean
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Stnby[m]
nioc: After you bridge it to Telegram you will not want to start the wpa_supplicant
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Stnby[m]
s/wpa_supplicant/wpa\_supplicant/
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nioc
please no lol
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monero666[m]
stnby, i'm the person next to you in the your profile photo
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Siren[m]
monero666[m]: Karaboฤa
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Stnby[m]
monero666[m]: Nice to meet you
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rbrunner
Having fun on a slow Black Friday, do we?
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ofrnxmr[m]
monero666: dont play with fire ๐ฅน
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monero666[m]
Stnby[m]: Which you know languages
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Stnby[m]
monero666[m]: C, Golang, HTML
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rbrunner
6502 assembler.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Rbunner, its been black Friday week for this clown
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Rucknium[m]
nioc: I thought about warning you about bridging. But then I would sound like a snob.
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monero666[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: why did you say so
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ofrnxmr[m]
Because this is monero
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monero666[m]
Stnby[m]: No. Country languages
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nioc
Rucknium[m]: wonder how mooo feels now :(
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monero666[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: What do you mean?
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ofrnxmr[m]
You never know who's watching. Actually, you can ve pretty confident that the feds are watching.
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rbrunner
LDA #$FF
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monero666[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: I'm not doing anything bad.
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nioc
so you are saying that the problem is matrix? :D
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Stnby[m]
monero666[m]: England English, Lithuanian, Konyaca and few other ones a little bit, but thats about it
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monero666[m]
Stnby[m]: How old are you
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Siren[m]
Nice try fed
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Stnby[m]
monero666[m]: 23, next question.
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monero666[m]
Stnby[m]: I am 40
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spacekitty420[m]
am 420 and still 9 lives left o.o
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spacekitty420[m]
mlem
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monero666[m]
I am not bad human
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ofrnxmr[m]
Im 13
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monero666[m]
I am 4000
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ofrnxmr[m]
Just your type
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spacekitty420[m]
u still a weirdo that needs his balls cut off
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nioc
Rucknium[m]: not even plowsof warned me
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Stnby[m]
Some admin will join and kick all of us
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ofrnxmr[m]
Its not ususs'ly like this
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ofrnxmr[m]
Lol. Irc was way more active than monero matrix
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monero666[m]
spacekitty420[m]: cut off your balls
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spacekitty420[m]
i dont have any tho :hyperthonk:
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ofrnxmr[m]
This is just a troll filling in what is usually quiet
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ofrnxmr[m]
Stnby[m]: That fixes everything ๐ฃ
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monero666[m]
I am not troll
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plowsof
sgp pls help us , monero666 is mean , pls ban
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spacekitty420[m]
spacekitty420[m]: nvm i lied, am just gon cut off my eyeballs cause even eyebleach wont do it after reading this chat.....
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ofrnxmr[m]
sgp: please give plowsof a hammer
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monero666[m]
Synby, you are good profil picture
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plowsof
this is a coordinated effort by plowsof and his puppets to give him global moderator power so we must not act so quick with handing out such privileges
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ofrnxmr[m]
Im not a sockpuppet, aint nobody has their hand up my ass!. Im an alt.
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spacekitty420[m]
plowsof: did u meant to send that from your alt ofrnxmr ?
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fluffypony
Stnby[m]: nope, cache-control headers and the CDN doesn't solve it
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fluffypony
trust me, we've experimented with tons of options
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Stnby[m]
fluffypony: Does
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fluffypony
we've been doing this since 2014, even in the absence of blockchain.raw requests we still routinely hit 5-7gbps cumulatively under load
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fluffypony
and that's for cache-misses on the CDN
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Stnby[m]
Make it a cache hit
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monero666[m]
Stnby, what are your job
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Stnby[m]
Computer Doctor
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monero666[m]
I'm bored I want to talk
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Stnby[m]
fluffypony: I know for a fact we can fix it
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ofrnxmr[m]
Mcdonalds
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alpharabius[m]
Do u guys think tay k used bitcoin or xmr
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ofrnxmr[m]
Oh, you asking stnby
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ofrnxmr[m]
#monero-offtopic:monero.social if youre bored
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Siren[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: hello fellow crypto bro
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ofrnxmr[m]
We wont ban you as fast there
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fluffypony
Stnby[m]: it's a pull CDN not a push, because we needed one with tons of POPs in China so that we don't have GFW restrictions affecting us
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Stnby[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: All the mods asleep anyway
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fluffypony
so the CDN lives on a different subdomain than the source
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fluffypony
also the server was sponsored until recently, the CDN is still sponsored by Tari Labs
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fluffypony
so I don't really think this is a problem that needs tackling, we have other things that are more important imho
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monero666[m]
Your favorite hardware wallet brand
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spacekitty420[m]
paper
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alpharabius[m]
๐
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Stnby[m]
fluffypony: Which subdomain?
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alpharabius[m]
monero666[m]: Skill issue
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Stnby[m]
Everything seems to live on www.getmonero.org which has a CNAME to some shady shared hosting thingy
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Stnby[m]
* Everything (except downloads) seems to
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monero666[m]
stanby, you seem like a nice person. O am seriously
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monero666[m]
s/O/I/
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selsta
web.getmonero.org is the source, www.getmonero.org the CDN
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fluffypony
^^
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Stnby[m]
monero666[m]: Damn, ping me in offtopic (Ill respond if Im in the mood)
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fluffypony
also downloads is the CDN, dlsrc is the source
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Stnby[m]
So what does this CDN do pull from web.getmonero.org, cache and serve it on www.getmonero.org?
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Siren[m]
what does ladieslovethis.com have to do with mail.getmonero.org?
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monero666[m]
Stnby[m]: Sir stnby, do you have instagram account. If u have instagram give me username.
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monero666[m]
I add you
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monero666[m]
In instagram
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Stnby[m]
monero666[m]: I don't
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monero666[m]
I add you for friend in instagram
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Stnby[m]
Piss off
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Siren[m]
* what does ladieslovethis.com have to do with mail.getmonero.org?
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Siren[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
xmrscott @xmrscott:monero.social:
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monero666[m]
Stnby[m]: Okey dont give
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monero666[m]
I like u
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Mochi101
wow! as lively as -pools in here today. :)
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Stnby[m]
monero666[m]: Like you too, just enough of you
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Stnby[m]
* of you for today
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monero666[m]
What is your Favorite country?
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Stnby[m]
Transnistria
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Stnby[m]
* Transnistria, North Korea right after
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monero666[m]
North korea
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monero666[m]
North korea is free country and good leader
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Stnby[m]
monero666[m]: I like it because if you were from there, you would not be spamming me right now
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sgp[m]
<ofrnxmr[m]> "sgp: please give plowsof a..." <- Getting confirmation from other ppl but I support this
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fluffypony
Siren[m]: probably some old reverse-CDN request
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fluffypony
*reverse-DNS
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fluffypony
we had a lot of shared server stuff in 2014
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fluffypony
not sure why LE is picking it up when the domain doesn't even exist anymore
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Stnby[m]
This is sketchy
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Stnby[m]
But we certainly need to set proper cache-control headers, like include immutable where needed
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Stnby[m]
* like include `immutable, * immutable` where
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dANBs[m]
Dev[xmpp]: Hi
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Stnby[m]
Sexy, If I was a country I also would attract hosting to my country by banning everything hosted outside Chinese providers.
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commandblock2[m]
4399, the most popular minigame website in China mainlan
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Stnby[m]
* Sexy, If I was a country I also would attract hosting to my country by banning everything hosted outside my countries providers.
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alpharabius[m]
Guys wouldn't it be insane if i got my first cert at 14
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RavFX[m]1
Considering we have let's encrypt now, not really.
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RavFX[m]1
Back when I was 14, certs where real expensive and most of the Internet was only http
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alpharabius[m]
> <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> Considering we have let's encrypt now, not really.
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alpharabius[m]
> Back when I was 14, certs where real expensive and most of the Internet was only http
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alpharabius[m]
Not that kinda cert, i already have that
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alpharabius[m]
I mean like a programming cert like security+
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Stnby[m]
<alpharabius[m]> "I mean like a programming cert..." <- LinlkedIn C# cert?
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Stnby[m]
> <@alpharabius:matrix.org> I mean like a programming cert like security+
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Stnby[m]
* LinkedIn C# cert?
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Stnby[m]
* LinkedIn C# cert or Windows server cert?
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Stnby[m]
* LinkedIn C# cert or Windows server security cert?
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natewrench
with the whole regulation of crypto underway by proof of reserves, will monero become the de facto standard?
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Siren[m]
<alpharabius[m]> "I mean like a programming cert..." <- Comptia is fine