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fr33_yourself[m]
yes i don't want any satoshis i think number go down and satoshis glow bright hehe
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fr33_yourself[m]
yellow rock better for number go up and sitting idle than btc in my opinion
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ArticMine
So yes we can keep the current long term median growth if we also keep the 50x surge in the short term median
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ArticMine
namely 1.7x / 50x
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fr33_yourself[m]
I'm agnostic on this, but appreciate all the effort that has been put in on this topic
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ArticMine
but I would prefer 2x / 20x or 2x / 16x
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ArticMine
It is more strictly priced and give more time for the network to adapt
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ArticMine
... and we can deal with the longer term with a sanity median
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fr33_yourself[m]
I wonder where sgp went and what he thinks about the nodes already having lifevests argument? I wonder what Koe would think about your argument/idea as well?
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bike[m]
spaceghostpurrp is into monero?
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ArticMine
Koe has argued for node relay over consensus
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ArticMine
There is a lot of emotion when it comes to scaling in my opinion because this is an ultra sensitive topic in Bitcoin
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fr33_yourself[m]
If it makes sense too Koe for livevests, node relay optionality, then I think that's a pretty good position long term
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fr33_yourself[m]
the only reason i was worried about it is that Monero fails if the chain gets too big long term, but looks like this shouldn't happen
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ArticMine
Koe has argued for node relay over consensus, this was on another issue namely the tx extra
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fr33_yourself[m]
ahhh, I thought you meant on this same issue
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ArticMine
Just to clarify
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fr33_yourself[m]
I'm curious to know what he thinks but am too scared to ping him haha
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ArticMine
He was very much involved in the conversation before the last HF
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ArticMine
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ofrnxmr[m]
<fr33_yourself[m]> "I'm curious to know what he..." <- rude af
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ofrnxmr[m]
you think koes time us more vakuabke than artic or mine? smh. the utter lack of respect
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ofrnxmr[m]
in the future, dont ping me either 👌
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fr33_yourself[m]
I didn't ping articmine, he spawned of his own accord
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fr33_yourself[m]
i only started replying to him after he spawned. and ok mr. tough guy no more pinging you 😉
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nioc
you did ping him, maybe not intentionally but still :)
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nioc
the discussion made me test my internet speed, I just get the basic because they increase over time anyway
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nioc
300Mbps unlimited
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RavFX
Been a long time I did not see non-unlimited plans.
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merope1
"Tell me you live in the US without telling me you live in the US"
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ArticMine
fr33_yourself[m] did ping me, with a valid comment / concern. In my view there is way too much emotion on the subject of scaling in Monero. This is to a very large extent due to the failure of Bitcoin in all its flavors to even attempt to deal with this subject.
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RavFX
lol, yeah, they have limited plan only in some "first world" countries as far as I know
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RavFX
Lol, Some canadian ISP still have a cap too
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RavFX
Hell canada, 70$ a month, 50GB cap lol, sometime I do that in a day without noticing
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ArticMine
Monnero's scaling, adaptive blocksize spam control and pricing is dependent on the tail emission. Take the tail emission away and it all falls apart
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ArticMine
I live in Canada and if one is on fibre many plans are symmetrical, with unlimited usage
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RavFX
Yeah, Fiber seam to be unlimited in most place in Canada
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ArticMine
One cable or DSL it is an entirely different matter. One is lucky to 100 Mbps upload and yes usage caps
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RavFX
Still on docsis here (200GB coax for 30$ a months, unlimited)
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ArticMine
The key here is the upload bandwidth
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RavFX
But i'm in latin america, there is no quota, even for cable. Yeah Upload is not as great on these but well, behind a crappy CGNAT anyway
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RavFX
If I where like 5km more in the city center I could get Symmetrical 500MB Fiber.
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ArticMine
It is very much depends on where one lives. Here in the Greater Vancouver (North Vancouver) are I get 2,5 Gbps symmetrical over fibre, In West Vancouver one of the most expensive areas in Greater Vancouver I found a house listed for 24,000,000 CAD ~20,000,000 USD that could only get 100 Mbps upload over cable at best
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RavFX
Yeah, here too. 200MB DOCSIS here. Go 5km aim at city center you get 500 sym fiber then go to next City and you have 1GB fiber (some place still have docsis there in there)
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ArticMine
So year some millionaires and even billionaires may have to rely on an improvised student renting a basement suit to rely their Monero transactions
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ArticMine
suite
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RavFX
For sure out plan are less scammy thru. 35$ a month give you 500mb fiber (if available), while 55$ a month give 1GB fiber
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ArticMine
That is very decent
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RavFX
And Unlimited LTE for 10$ a month
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ArticMine
In any case this was not a waste of time for me because I hot some ideas on using node relay to accommodate lower bandwidth nodes
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ofrnxmr[m]
:) I just wanted free to understand what implication they made
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ofrnxmr[m]
which was that koe's time is more valuable than youre (or mine, since free pings me).
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ofrnxmr[m]
yours*
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tuxsudo[m]
what is the current size of a full node? I currently have a prunee node for local usage but am going to start hosting a full one. I have 160GB free on my server (just for node/mining) but while syncing the blockchain I'm getting nervous that won't be enough, the data.mdb is getting big real fast 😬
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tuxsudo[m]
s/full/_full_/, s/prunee/pruned/
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plowsof11
i think we're already > 160GB
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tuxsudo[m]
shittt
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tuxsudo[m]
For some reason my Rocky Linux installation defaulted the root partition to 75GB so I guess I have to reinstall so I can regain some space 😠
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tuxsudo[m]
I'll just backup the current data.mdb so I don't have to redownload what I already have
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plowsof11
166GB :$
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tuxsudo[m]
bruh you gotta be kidding 😂
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tuxsudo[m]
Literally just barely bigger than my home partition
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ofrnxmr[m]
i keep a full node for myself
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ofrnxmr[m]
but my pruned node is what stays online
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ofrnxmr[m]
just personal storage issues without any tangible tradeoffs for people making use of my node
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tuxsudo[m]
how far do you prune yours?
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ofrnxmr[m]
been pruned since initial sync
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plowsof11
level 10 or level 11 prune?
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ofrnxmr[m]
pruning in monero is different than btc etc.
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ofrnxmr[m]
thr essential data is not pruned
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ofrnxmr[m]
a pruned node has everything a wallet needs to restore from block height 0
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tuxsudo[m]
wait really. I guess I haven't understood monero pruning properly either
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ofrnxmr[m]
yeah :).
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ofrnxmr[m]
a full node is better if you need to poke around and do development or research
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tuxsudo[m]
what's the point of running a full node then? Other than what you just mentioned
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ofrnxmr[m]
being a chad
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tuxsudo[m]
Ohhhh okay I see you
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ofrnxmr[m]
being able to serve tbe full blockchain to anybody on your own
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tuxsudo[m]
that is pretty based and monero pilled
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ofrnxmr[m]
if a full node wants to sync from pruned peers, it will need at least 8 pruned peers to build the chain
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ofrnxmr[m]
but, like a torrent, in theory it works just fine
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tuxsudo[m]
that's interesting
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tuxsudo[m]
I guess I'll probably prune mine then
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ofrnxmr[m]
except the leechers have the full kovie, subtitles etc, but orine 7/8 of metadata
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tuxsudo[m]
I'll probably need to redownload I'm assuming
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ofrnxmr[m]
you can just add the flag --prune-blockchain
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ofrnxmr[m]
the currenct chain wont get smallet but will stop growing until the pruned node hits that size
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ofrnxmr[m]
i also use --sync-pruned-blocks becausemy node is lazy like me
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plowsof11
if your current lmdb is small you can convert it to a pruned chain quite quickly but this will create a 2nd lmdb file in another folder , maybe pruned , but im half awake
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plowsof11
then delete the old bloated one. or as above, continue from here as pruned
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tuxsudo[m]
I ran monero-blockchain-prune
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plowsof11
the original non-pruned database is somewhere in your ~/.bitmonero folder
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tuxsudo[m]
I don't see any extra file, I still only have the same data.mdb
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tuxsudo[m]
it was already relatively small at 37GB
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plowsof11
im almost certain the old database remains + pruned one but im .bbl
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plowsof11
moneromooo made monero-blockchain-prune fast AF .bbl
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tuxsudo[m]
yeah it's not growing nearly as fast as before
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ofrnxmr[m]
tux, is your system clock fucked?
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ofrnxmr[m]
showing your messages as 4hrs in the past
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tuxsudo[m]
Matrix seems to be doing this retarded thing where it shows everyone's timestamps for their timezone
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kevino[m]
<tuxsudo[m]> "Matrix seems to be doing this..." <- your server is probably doing a weird thing
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tuxsudo[m]
oh I was assuming it was a client side thing, I should have said element
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mlcboss[m]
yo why monero gui is not available on macos with apple silicone chip (the new ones)
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mlcboss[m]
there is only for intel version
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mlcboss[m]
is M2 too powerful for monero so that's why they avoid it?
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mlcboss[m]
kinda disappointed
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mlcboss[m]
apple cpu are powerful and efficient but sadly can't mine monero
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tuxsudo[m]
too powerful? that's definetely not why
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tuxsudo[m]
they probably haven't ported it to apple silicon
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tuxsudo[m]
idk why but the server crashed I think I'm screwed 😓
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DanIsnotthemanBr
for monerod?
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ofrnxmr[m]
start with --db-salvage once
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hanser[m]
Dear friends, I have a question about private testnet :
monero-project/monero #8821, I don't know how to solve it😭
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spackle_xmr[m]
<fr33_yourself[m]> "ofrnxmr, in the gifs, how is the..." <- It is in bytes.
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spackle_xmr[m]
Just caught up on the block size conversation. Glad to see the discussion.
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tuxsudo[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: yeah I had tried that but it didn't do anything
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tuxsudo[m]
I'll just have to delete the database I guess, it was almost done 👿👿
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plowsof11
hanser "thank you for enabling background mining" - repeat with new wallets and don't enable this
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hanser[m]
Ok, I will close this and test again, thanks
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plowsof11
dont have to close it ,
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hanser[m]
😳
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plowsof11
close means 'im going to re-open another'
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plowsof11
just test without enablling background mining
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hanser[m]
ok
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ofrnxmr[m]
alwayslike, just follow instructions udsually works
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ofrnxmr[m]
make your own modifions after, so you know what you broke
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plowsof11
also mining on a virtual machine 🤷 so hardware/resources are suspect
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hanser[m]
mining has a busy error😢
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spackle_xmr[m]
fr33_yourself: I see the confusion. The numbers are in scientific notation, check the 1eX value at the top of some graphs. If you see 1e6 it is MB, 1e9 is GB, etc.
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ofrnxmr[m]
daemon 0 in 0 out connections
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ofrnxmr[m]
youbhave ^
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hanser[m]
oh,I will make another two nodes and wallets to test..
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plowsof11
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boomgodzilla[m]
What’s the latest on monero? I’m trying to figure out why it’s price isn’t waaaay higher like in the 4 figures at least
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hanser[m]
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plowsof11
start monerod (release) and try start_mining
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plowsof11
ignoring all this private testnet stuff, just try and mine with monerod on your virtual machine
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hanser[m]
😭
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k4r4b3y[m]
<boomgodzilla[m]> "What’s the latest on monero? I’m..." <- latest on monero afaik: discussion about how to counter mordinals bloating up the blockchain with irrelevant data. discussion about how to counter coinbase txos decreasing effective ring size.
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plowsof11
no time for tears hanser , lets get testing
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k4r4b3y[m]
long term ongoing discussions: seraphis + jamtis upgrade. full membership proofs related curve discussions.
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k4r4b3y[m]
is Amir still chiming in the discussions related to full membership proofs (fmp) ?
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k4r4b3y[m]
I am not seeing him commenting on the github thread anymore/
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spackle_xmr[m]
Amir was at the MRL meeting on 5-APR. If you read the log you can see what he is working on: github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/822
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hanser[m]
<plowsof11> "ignoring all this private..." <- but in Monero(release), it need to synchronize blockchain data.My computer don't have enough storage space
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plowsof11
how much storage space do you have
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plowsof11
hardware specs ^
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plowsof11
./monerod --testnet --prune-blockchain
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hanser[m]
I learned online that the complete Monero blockchain data requires about 100 GB, but my virtual machine currently has less than 10 GB of storage space.
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k4r4b3y[m]
<boomgodzilla[m]> "What’s the latest on monero? I’m..." <- regarding xmr price: monero needs more people shillin' it. say whatever you want about bitmaxis, but bitstein was right about one thing: "shill, shill, shill. You were born to shill..."
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ofrnxmr[m]
lmao
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k4r4b3y[m]
We know that Monero is the best thing since bitcoin ( it is waay better than bitcoin), and it can alter the current surveillance-oppression based society much more fundamentally than bitcoin hopes to.
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ofrnxmr[m]
seth u fkn traitir
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ofrnxmr[m]
get shilling
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plowsof11
--testnet --prune-blockchain is ~10GB . you can start_mining with that to see if your virtual machine that you have been avoiding bothering to tell me the specs of
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plowsof11
can actually start a mining thread
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ofrnxmr[m]
no.what monero needs is to be taken seriously
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ofrnxmr[m]
nobody cares about privacy or blockchain
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ofrnxmr[m]
noooobody
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ofrnxmr[m]
they want they visa to work, got it?
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ofrnxmr[m]
merchantswant to get paidand not raped
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hanser[m]
Ok, I will try this.I also suspect that it might be an issue with the virtual machine, but I only have one Windows computer, so I have to use a virtual machine to run it. Thanks😀
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k4r4b3y[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: I am not disagreeing. Shilling simply means it has visibility. It is heard. Being taken seriously is also important, and it will come with Monero being used to exit the current oppressive system. But before that, before other anarchists use Monero in "serious stuff" Monero needs to be heard.
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ofrnxmr[m]
hanser: come to #monero-support:monero.social if it gets too noisy here
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ofrnxmr[m]
nobody cares about fighting oppression
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ofrnxmr[m]
mcdonalds doesnt give half ashit what our values are
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ofrnxmr[m]
"doesit work? reliably? whatsthe catch?"
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hanser[m]
Ok
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ofrnxmr[m]
when micky deez pays employeed using xmr, you have adoption
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k4r4b3y[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: most people wouldn't say they are fighting oppression. But the way they act shows that they want ways to act without the stupid regulations of our political and economical system.
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ofrnxmr[m]
when employees get micky deez to "accept" xmr (immediately market sold on binance) is just cope and head pat
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k4r4b3y[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: tbh I don't give a shit about mcd accepting xmr
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ofrnxmr[m]
andyou want to talk about hobbist
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ofrnxmr[m]
naive
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ofrnxmr[m]
why is xmr small? because theresnothing but consumers in xmr
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ofrnxmr[m]
obv
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ofrnxmr[m]
no powerful entitieswant to touch something with utility that threatens the gane
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k4r4b3y[m]
Monero needs its own "Silk Road" moment. To show, and inspire other people that there are ways to do business, to organize society, without the usual way that's been pushed on us since we are born.
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ofrnxmr[m]
no, monero just needs one large entity to deployit lol
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plowsof11
did silk road have a happy ending
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ofrnxmr[m]
yall really like this underground broke joke nonsense
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ofrnxmr[m]
silk road is aclown show
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ofrnxmr[m]
dumbestcriminal in history
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k4r4b3y[m]
plowsof11: doesn't matter... what matters is it happened. It was a serious threat to the system that its founder got twice life sentence. Silk road is an example that the system is not all powerful, and can be defeated. It is an inspiring heroic story.
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ofrnxmr[m]
monero need not attach itself to any ideal aside from being fungible ecash
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ofrnxmr[m]
threat my ass lmao
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ofrnxmr[m]
silk road never threatebed a damn thing
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k4r4b3y[m]
ffs
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ofrnxmr[m]
why do outsiders always have such huge opinions
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k4r4b3y[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: care to explain this, mr genius?
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ofrnxmr[m]
walk it a lil
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ofrnxmr[m]
geniuses can explain things to kids,im not that smart
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ofrnxmr[m]
..... seriously though, pretty self explanatory and self fulfilling prophecy
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ofrnxmr[m]
there is nothing to explain
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k4r4b3y[m]
so you are just throwing ridicule at others' opinions
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ofrnxmr[m]
if there is, i dont know hiw to make it more clear
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k4r4b3y[m]
without explaining your own counter position
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k4r4b3y[m]
cool enough.
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ofrnxmr[m]
i thriw rudcuke at opinions, yes,of course
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k4r4b3y[m]
if that's what you understand about having a discussion...
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ofrnxmr[m]
i prefer not to hear opinions as if they were matter of fact or had any foundation or substabce
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ofrnxmr[m]
opinionsare what ther are, baseless
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k4r4b3y[m]
it is easy to say "that's stuupid duude".. the point is, do you have substance behind your ridicule, or not. If not, you are just crowding the chat
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k4r4b3y[m]
you can DM me your ridicules
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ofrnxmr[m]
ill post my phone soon
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k4r4b3y[m]
k keep me posted
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ofrnxmr[m]
but yes, im 100% serious in what i said about it trickling down,not up
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k4r4b3y[m]
for the others, I am still of the opinion that Monero has very little visibility for the counter-culture. Example: canadian truckers and their (try to) use of bitcoin to skirt the donation bans.
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k4r4b3y[m]
these truckers should've heard about monero /already/ and have tried using XMR, not btc.
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ofrnxmr[m]
do you think the organizers dudnt know?
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ofrnxmr[m]
ill tell you a secret - they knew
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ofrnxmr[m]
you think those truckers did something ?
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ofrnxmr[m]
tell you a secret - they did nothing
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ofrnxmr[m]
secret = secret = the shit you hear on tv is hilarious
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ofrnxmr[m]
theres more to the story than blablah
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ofrnxmr[m]
this was he mob+ politicuans vs the federal g9vernment
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ofrnxmr[m]
has NOTHING to do withtruckers or freedom
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ofrnxmr[m]
and nobody usedxmr because it wasalways an inside job
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k4r4b3y[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: show me a piece of evidence the organizers knew about xmr, and had the intention to wield it for their protesting activities.
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ofrnxmr[m]
whenxmr was eventually adopted, it didnt make it to truckers
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k4r4b3y[m]
eventually?
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ofrnxmr[m]
k4r4b3y[m]: 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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k4r4b3y[m]
XMR should've been the "first" choice.
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k4r4b3y[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: show me an xmr donation address you asshat
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ofrnxmr[m]
youd like to see my personal correspondence with prople spending time behind bars ? yeah ok
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plowsof11
what is a silk road moment for monero, like, if a darknet market said 'we're going monero only' or , if monero started to become more popular than coins like bitcoin there?
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ofrnxmr[m]
thats already happened 🚀 i guess we mooned
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plowsof11
ohh wow
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ofrnxmr[m]
k4r4b3y[m]: for the truckers? you can find it on google yo
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ofrnxmr[m]
do you think they didnt have one?
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k4r4b3y[m]
plowsof11: No that ship has sailed. DNM's have lost their novelty, Silk Road was a first time event. Now nobody from the general public cares about the DNM's going full-XMR, because, as I said, DNMs are old news. For Monero's Silk Road moment, it has to be something original. It has to be something never seen before. It has to show a new way of organizing a small society around some economical activity that is outside the current system.
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ofrnxmr[m]
the xmr moped club of alaska
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ofrnxmr[m]
arrrrrr we shoukd be pirates matey
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ofrnxmr[m]
gimmicks lolol
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ofrnxmr[m]
so silk road was a fad now
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ofrnxmr[m]
terrible opinion
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ofrnxmr[m]
dnm** are a fad
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ofrnxmr[m]
torrents are a fad too
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ofrnxmr[m]
so is seths love for xnmr(fuckin traitir)
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Ban!
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k4r4b3y[m]
k4r4b3y[m]: an example of this could've been 3D printed gun community, deterrence dispensed, and Monero. We know that JStark1809 had a Monero address from the /beginning/. The 3D printed guns, especially of the caliber fgc-9 were something new, shocking, and revolting. XMR could've had good PR if there was a stronger synergy.
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ofrnxmr[m]
k4b i hope you know im never like mador whatever
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ofrnxmr[m]
evenwhen im rude im usually trying to be plauful
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ofrnxmr[m]
playful
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ofrnxmr[m]
k4r4b3y[m]: poskkt
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bridgerton[m]
<BobbedBort> tbh fgc-9 is now used for fighting against the Myanmar government that had a coup, so I guess it is getting used. Nobody knows about the Monero side of things tho
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k4r4b3y[m]
bridgerton[m]: I agree.
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k4r4b3y[m]
anyways. I gotta keep working. Ping me your opinions
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ofrnxmr[m]
never
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plowsof11
"Canada Sanctions 34 Crypto Wallets Tied to Trucker 'Freedom Convoy'
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plowsof11
Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Monero and Cardano addresses are all on the list."
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ofrnxmr[m]
my opinions remain questions until they are no longer opinions
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plowsof11
cardano lets gooo
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ofrnxmr[m]
i dont have an opinion that they used xnr. they did. i state facts
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spackle_xmr[m]
I would happily vacation at the seasteading micronation of Moneroland. The sushi should be cheap.
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ofrnxmr[m]
monerokon couldhave bought an islsnd by now
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ofrnxmr[m]
like 250k a year lol
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plowsof11
before i start searching suspect things... isnt there a group of bitcoinenrs who are into guns? the traitor done some outreach there? and they started moving toward Monero for obvious reasons? for legally purchasing firearms
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bridgerton[m]
<BobbedBort> I once looked at the total donations that they reported getting received and the amount on transparent chains and xmr seemed to have had maybe half of the donations, several millions. So I think Monero was getting used for donating to the truckers. That or they misreported their number/included fiat donations
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ofrnxmr[m]
bridgerton[m]: s t o l e n
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ofrnxmr[m]
truckers didnt get a piconero
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bridgerton[m]
<BobbedBort> lol by whom? organizers?
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ofrnxmr[m]
yes
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bridgerton[m]
<BobbedBort> also I think they were pretty much soft-blocked from sending their bitcoins either way
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spackle_xmr[m]
"Guns N' Bitcoin" is a 3D printing and Bitcoin conference, but they use/take Monero. Last year they said that more people paid with Monero than BTC. Seth gave a talk there last year.
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plowsof11
yes spackle_xmr thank you k4r4b3y
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DanIsnotthemanBr
I’d buy a jet
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plowsof11
k4r4b3y thinks mollys monero wallet sdk is written in rust
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DanIsnotthemanBr
So i can put my node in it
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plowsof11
and wants people to provide evidence for things they say
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Neva
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ofrnxmr[m]
ty plowsof for saving me from the google
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hanser[m]
It may use 4 hours😢
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plowsof11
hanser you said you have a Windows machine, please tell me you know monero workson windows
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hanser[m]
Yes, but I have an experiment later that requires running on Linux, so I have to do it on a virtual machine.
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ofrnxmr[m]
noo
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ofrnxmr[m]
have to>> want to
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ofrnxmr[m]
you should just use linux on the metal though
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ofrnxmr[m]
10gb free... you can get256gb ssd for like $30
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ceetee[m]
bought a 1TB M.2 for 39€ recently
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ceetee[m]
Storage cost is falling of a cliff rn
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Yeah supply chain issue is gone
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plowsof11
main issue for me (i assume most) isnt the price. if there was a 4TB ssd sitting on my desk here... i'd set it up tomorrow(tm)
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plowsof11
now if only dedicated server providers started giving us discounts
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ceetee[m]
main issue is that security is hard
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ceetee[m]
and you want to be absolutely sure that everything is configured properly when exposing stuff to the interwebs
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monerobull[m]
hinto: can i just restart the vanity miner or will i lose progress? i assume its like mining regularly and just probability so shouldnt matter
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xfedex[m]
monerobull: yes you can restart the vanity miner
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xfedex[m]
and yes, it's like mining
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fr33_yourself[m]
Can anyone explain why
monero.fail/map now shows about 8,000 more nodes than it did a week ago? What did the site owner change such that more nodes are now displayed?
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plowsof11
i wouldnt dare ping the owner directly, or click contact -> see a twitter with a github repo link -> that has monero.fail pinned
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plowsof11
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plowsof11
(or has the reason explained in the top tweet) lol
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guruji[m]
<ofrnxmr[m]> "seth RIP. traitor" <- Why is he traitor? Did I miss something?
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RavFX
@guruji: He work for some bitcoin wallet
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merope1
guruji[m]: Out of context overused sarcastic meme
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guruji[m]
<k4r4b3y[m]> "Really, using i2p for monero..." <- I believe that high latency networks like Nym or Xx will be the future of the anonymous communication. Let's see the development.
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kevino[m]
some person from this group is messaging me personally and offering crypto related schemes
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merope1
definitely a scammer
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kevino[m]
yeah
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plowsof11
before he exposes me, listen
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merope1
been a while since I've seen of those here on matrix
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kevino[m]
Mr. Nice offering me trading strategies
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plowsof11
oh right mr nice, yep scammer, ignore^
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hyc
that should go without saying, anyone offering you trading strategies, anywhere, is a scammer
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plowsof11
Mr Nice : ?
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guruji[m]
<kevino[m]> "i can't download the whole..." <- You can download whole Blockchain. Use external storage like SD Card, USB. The 256 GB ones are not bank breaking.
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ceetee[m]
<plowsof11> "oh right mr nice, yep scammer..." <- can confirm. he also doesn't like nohello.net for some reason
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k4r4b3y[m]
<bridgerton[m]> "<BobbedBort> I once looked at..." <- My point is not necessarily "they did not use Monero." My point more of "Monero should be the 'go-to' tool for these protesters." Not bitcoin first, and then they also put up an XMR address, due to one of our guys nagging on twitter. But, XMR first and foremost, because they know it is associated with revolutionary politics.
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k4r4b3y[m]
But before that, they should "know" about Monero. And that's where shilling comes. Also that's where Monero's hoped-for Silk Road moment comes: an action on the ground that makes use of Monero for outsider-politics in such a novel way that you cannot look away, nor can you ignore.
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k4r4b3y[m]
<plowsof11> "k4r4b3y thinks mollys monero..." <- I know great number of many things/\.
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k4r4b3y[m]
<k4r4b3y[m]> "But before that, they should "..." <- One example of that, from my perspective, was in one MoneroTalk episode, in which one Dutch dude showcased his casino project on Minecraft.
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k4r4b3y[m]
On a fucking Minecraft. Here it is. A genius outsider, coming in, and absolutely screwing up the whole anti-gambling laws.
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k4r4b3y[m]
And doing this in a way that even fucking toddlers can use, and gamble!
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k4r4b3y[m]
This Dutch dude had a whole array of casino games available on Minecraft, using Minecraft's in-game logic. It had its own random number generation for games of luck for fairness. It had pig races. It had slot machines. You were buying in-game casino chips with XMR. And you were getting paid your loot in XMR.
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k4r4b3y[m]
It is as beautiful is as funny. It mocks the whole bureacracy and politics establishment of "the whole world" !
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k4r4b3y[m]
And does it so from a computer. Available anywhere, and is located nowhere.
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k4r4b3y[m]
Reachable by all, hidden in plain sight.
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k4r4b3y[m]
It is daring the whole political establishment to do something in reaction to itself. But what can these old men and women of the state can do?!
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ofrnxmr[m]
<k4r4b3y[m]> "My point is not necessarily "..." <- "they" added xmr because of twitter nagging
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ofrnxmr[m]
oh boy
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ofrnxmr[m]
truckers still dont know what xmr is. the entire rally was cucked by design
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ofrnxmr[m]
facepalm at anyone who gives credit to that scam distraction
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ofrnxmr[m]
its obv not common knowledge who represents what
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ofrnxmr[m]
maybe 5% of those truckers were indeoendent
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ofrnxmr[m]
the rest was a choreographed performance
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ofrnxmr[m]
a setup
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guruji[m]
<k4r4b3y[m]> "This Dutch dude had a whole..." <- Do you have any link to this Minecraft service? Interesting 😎
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kevino[m]
<guruji[m]> "You can download whole Blockchai..." <- i have a potato pc basically , it can't handle high ram tasks.
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kevino[m]
Also do i need to keep the external sd card connected every time ?
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ofrnxmr[m]
nobody is forcing you to run a node
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ofrnxmr[m]
<ofrnxmr[m]> "use a trusted remote node" <- .
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ofrnxmr[m]
a 256 ssd isnt bank breaking either
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ofrnxmr[m]
skip the sd card
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guruji[m]
> <@karano:poddery.com> i have a potato pc basically , it can't handle high ram tasks.
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guruji[m]
> Also do i need to keep the external sd card connected every time ?
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guruji[m]
Normally yes. If you do XMR like $20 transactions, use remote nodes. If you are serious about it, or use XMR more frequently, higher volumes, run node yourself.
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guruji[m]
If you had a local node on SD Card or USB, you have to attach it every time you would like to use the wallet and sync it first.
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k4r4b3y[m]
<guruji[m]> "Do you have any link to this..." <- I took a quick look at the monero talk's youtube, but couldn't spot the video
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k4r4b3y[m]
it was an episode that came out like 2 yrs ago
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k4r4b3y[m]
ah yeah, it was called "bitvegas"
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k4r4b3y[m]
just google it, you will see some /r/Monero announcements
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k4r4b3y[m]
that should be enough of an entry to the rabbit hole
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ofrnxmr[m]
volumes dont matter. whether you spend 1$ or 100k
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ofrnxmr[m]
theres nothing wrong with someone using a TRUSTED remote node for everything, particularly if its an onion or i2p node
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k4r4b3y[m]
oh, found the monerotalk episode:
piped.video/watch?v=ZSSmRZ-ylRA
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ofrnxmr[m]
keyword: trusted.
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ofrnxmr[m]
probably 90% of cake wallet users dont run nodes
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k4r4b3y[m]
the episode lists bitvegas.org as the website
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k4r4b3y[m]
which is defunct now
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k4r4b3y[m]
sad
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k4r4b3y[m]
k4r4b3y[m]: watch this from minute 10 and onward. He walks you through the virtual casino in minecraft that uses XMR.
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ofrnxmr[m]
> If you had a local node on SD Card or USB, you have to attach it every time you would like to use the wallet and sync it first.
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ofrnxmr[m]
^ bad
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ofrnxmr[m]
true, but kinda stupid if the idea is to be extra private
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ofrnxmr[m]
your a million time better off exposing a new connction to TOR than shouting out to the workd MY NODE CAME ONLINE LONG ENOUGH TO SYNC AND SEND 1 TX
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ofrnxmr[m]
nodes run on plenty of hardware
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kevino[m]
maybe node is best to be run on a vps so that i can be left running 24/7
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ofrnxmr[m]
you dont need a computer running 24/7 to run a node. anything with android shoukd work (old phones tabkets android tv boxes)
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kevino[m]
s/so/and/, s/that/to/, s/i can//
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kevino[m]
ohh 🤔
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ofrnxmr[m]
personally im not paying a vps to host a node unless im hosting it for a lot of people aside from myself
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kevino[m]
but which old hardware has 90gb space
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ofrnxmr[m]
external ssd
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kevino[m]
ok , but do i need to keep it running and connected to internet ?
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ofrnxmr[m]
yes
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kevino[m]
would also need to configure port forwarding and static ip stuff then
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ofrnxmr[m]
for android on wifi, yeah but super easy
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ofrnxmr[m]
android tv on ethernet, probably not
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ofrnxmr[m]
ofrnxmr[m]: static wifi ip can be done on android easily from the wifi network setting
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kevino[m]
oh
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kevino[m]
so i will connect to the node locally , and have to use the wallet while within the network then.
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ofrnxmr[m]
no
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ofrnxmr[m]
not if y(u port forward
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kevino[m]
* so i have to connect to the node locally , and have to use the wallet while within the network then.
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ofrnxmr[m]
can access from anywhere
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kevino[m]
yeah , but then purchase static ip from isp
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ofrnxmr[m]
no
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ofrnxmr[m]
dont need one, if it changes just change it :p
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kevino[m]
xD
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ofrnxmr[m]
also can easily setup an onion
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ofrnxmr[m]
so port forwarding is 100% unnecessary
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ofrnxmr[m]
and static ip = your onion
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kevino[m]
ye with onion , no domain , no static ip etc
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plowsof11
k4r4by wasnt that minecraft thing dumb af, like you deposited your funds to 1 wallet he owned
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kevino[m]
s/,/-/
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plowsof11
the future p2p electronic e cash
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ofrnxmr[m]
seths replacement is 5 stars
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k4r4b3y[m]
plowsof11: you tried?
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plowsof11
On September 6, 2013, a user logged into BitVegas and exploited a vulnerability in CraftBukkit to log into the server as other players and withdraw their funds. About 7 bitcoins were stolen, worth about $1,000 at the time. The lost money was reimbursed by BitVegas.
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plowsof11
do you have any idea wtf you are talking about
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ofrnxmr[m]
never
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k4r4b3y[m]
I think we are tlaking about different bitvegas stuff
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k4r4b3y[m]
there seems to be bitvegas.io that is unrelated to what I am talking about
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plowsof11
whatever incantation you are talking about, same crap - even in the video doug presses him twice , and he says "just join and you get free monero to gamble"
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ofrnxmr[m]
its like reinventing the wheel - but with corners
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sgp[m]
MajesticBank MajesticBank Please check the Discord for the MAGIC Monero Fund asap
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fr33_yourself[m]
<ofrnxmr[m]> "a setup" <- In your opinion, who is/was behind the Trucker protest "play"
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ofrnxmr[m]
i couldnt tell you my opinion
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ofrnxmr[m]
if the question was "who was behind it", thats a diff q and one i can answr, though not necessarily one that needs to be shared with anyone who cant do anything about it
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fr33_yourself[m]
ok I'll rephrase the question, "who was behind it?"
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ofrnxmr[m]
the short answer, the government
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ofrnxmr[m]
the longer short answer, the mob
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ofrnxmr[m]
the longer answer draw conclusions
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ofrnxmr[m]
the facts, dive in and get your feet dirty
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great_taste
jews
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side-trips[m]
That escalated quick Kanye
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side-trips[m]
Holy duck sorry i been quick replying from phone and didn't notice sorry
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plowsof11
antisemitism will not be tolerated great_taste
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great_taste
?
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great_taste
it's very telling that just saying "jews" is enough to get people triggered and receive threats, get kicked, banned, cancelled. I have been trying to understand why is that :)
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great_taste
what I have learned so far is that the Israeli state is an incredibly filthy and criminal organization and jews generally support it, so that is why
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BusyBoredom[m]
He didn't have very great_taste 😂
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m4tr1x00101[m]
Does anyone know why AppImageLauncher doesn’t recognize the v0.18.2.2 AppImage as an AppImage?
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m4tr1x00101[m]
I’m on Ubuntu 22.10
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ofrnxmr[m]
its not an appimage
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ofrnxmr[m]
its just a bash file that launches the binary
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ofrnxmr[m]
right click > open in text editor
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ofrnxmr[m]
its just
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ofrnxmr[m]
`./monero-wallet-gui`
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Phyn[m]
Howdy, I have a ubuntu server with monerod p2pool & xmrig installed. I want these to run as services on boot. Is there a guide for that somewhere out there?
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RaySteelworth[m]
If you can't start the appimage, try right clicking on it, going to the properties and enabling that it can be run as executable
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m4tr1x00101[m]
The AppImage will start but I can’t get it to register as a desktop application and when I run sudo monero-wallet-gui it launches v0.18.1.2
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RaySteelworth[m]
You need to sudo it directly from the directory the exe is in my dude
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MajesticBank
chmod +x monero-wallet-gui
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m4tr1x00101[m]
I’m in the v0.18.2.2 directory
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MajesticBank
./monero-wallet-gui
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MajesticBank
no need to execute wallet as root
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RaySteelworth[m]
And that won't work for you?
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m4tr1x00101[m]
Well from my experience P2Pool wouldn’t work unless I ran the wallet from root
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MajesticBank
then you do, it's safe app anyway
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m4tr1x00101[m]
If there’s a way around that I’d be more than happy to run as user