Well, the upper bound is slightly less than 2^256, given that that's the maximum number of private keys that can exist

I do recall an old benchmark of the wallet software in which it handled something like 100k-ish? subaddresses concurrently

Or maybe more, don't recall exactly - but it was quite a high number

Main bottleneck being the scan time of each tx being processed for each private viewkey

(Though with some batching under the hood)

Truly insightful, that answers what I needed and what I was thinking towards, thank you.

You're welcome

<merope> "I do recall an old benchmark..." <- Yeah. Also i remember an issue reports of a wallet with > 10k subaddresses having problems

whattaya think this is about? old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/13…_tor_circuit_connections_when_using

lol

well, because they are using orbot and running their flickr app through it at the same time

`onion remote node or clearnet node`

maybe should try a darknet node next

but yeah. user is using tor for other stuff

onions dont connect to flickr

eithet that, or the magic of windows viruses

I have been attempting to understand Monero better and am focused currently on recovering curve points from public keys. I have read in multiple places that the x-coordinate of the generator point G is 15112221349535400772501151409588531511454012693041857206046113283949847762202 (for example: crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/27392/base-point-in-ed25519). But when I follow Zero to Monero and other resources I see an

x-coordinate of 41525907332850118604042921197616235994143449782721731303493140928252421878332. Does anyone know which one is actually valid? I have confirmed calculations using a second method of calculation (rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8032.html#section-6).

kittypity[xmpp]: anonimauzanto[m]: haha elliptic curve cryptography haha bro get therapy

kittypity[xmpp]: Just joking

kittypity[xmpp]: I think I love unpronounceable numbers

anonimauzanto: Monero Research Lounge

kittypity[xmpp]: > *anonimauzanto[m]:* haha elliptic curve cryptography haha bro get therapy

>

> Just joking

The last revision of NSA's cryptographic suite B doesn't contain any EC algorithm...

kittypity[xmpp]: Oh wait... It's not suite B anymore it's The Commercial National Security Algorithm Suite (CNSA)

kittypity[xmpp]: And it uses DH on elliptic curves

kittypity[xmpp]: And ECDSA...

That was a quick therapy session.

kittypity[xmpp]: 😀

Encrypted Cryptocurrency beside Monero?

don't mentioned Zcash , cause is not encrypted you need to have Z Chain wallet

Just use monero at this point ☝️

xmrlover[m]: Monero has no smart contract

all (real) cryptocurrency is encrypted, encryption doesn't imply privacy in this context.

most of it is signed, not encrypted

the moment you have a public and private key, you're using encryption.

you can have a signed message yet it will be public

you can have an encrypted message yet not be signed

you can also have both

i get what you mean, fair enough. that was probably a bad claim that i made

kittypity[xmpp]: Do monero devs plan or are implementing any effort to counter quantum computing?

dANBs[m]: Quantum computing is not possible

Post-quantum cryptography may be implemented in Monero when those cryptography protocols are more mature. Some "post-quantum" protocols have already been broken by conventional means. Needs more time.

e.g. securityweek.com/nist-post-quantum-…finalist-cracked-using-classical-pc

Quantum Computer is not possible for large scale they are useless

[citation needed]

kittypity[xmpp]: > *mlcboss[m]:* Quantum Computer is not possible for large scale they are useless

mlcboss[m]: tell it to computer manufacturers right before personal computers came in

Seeing btc mempool. It got cleared out to 0 awaiting transactions last week. And then a few days ago, it spiked up to 100,000 transactions awaiting to get into the blockchain. Quite erratic.

Being in its current form, I can't see this can sustain btc security budget in the long run

makes me appreciate monero's design.

It seems to me that this arbitrary cap in the btc blocksize causes this wild swings in its tx fees. Monero, on the other hand, having freed that blocksize limit to a self-adjusting algorithm, can have much more stable tx fees.

doesnt matter

simply math = even at max capacity the fees arent anywhere near the block reward

btc might not survive another halving

ltc peeps ltc will 2-4x BECAUSE of halving. lol

currently, yes. bitcoiners hold the belief that the future is uncertain and there might be some "events" that supply them with the continuous and adequate tx fee for the miners.

it is not an after effect, but a procondition

> <@k4r4b3y:halogen.city> currently, yes. bitcoiners hold the belief that the future is uncertain and there might be some "events" that supply them with the continuous and adequate tx fee for the miners.

>

full blocks at inflated fees = still not enough

nft grifters cant even pump it

> <@ofrnxmr:monero.social> btc might not survive another halving

I hope it dies.

i honestly woudnt mind

enough pretending abd taking peopl on wild goose chases andwitch hunts

these projects are dishonest at their cores

Nah I would like to see the look on all them smug bitmaxis

the people working in "blockchain" are getting fucjed

whoooooops

#monero-offtopic:monero.social lol

XMR seam to have some kind of reverse correlation with BTC. So if BTC die, it can only be good, right?

Preferable in a slow bleed fashion

s/preferable/preferably

i think so, tbh

monero isnt reliant on the majority if the huff and puff around bitcoin (selling dreams, stringing people along, marketing)

bitcoin is like a movie

monero is the real life version

Monerod wrapper for Start9... Who's going to test it first: github.com/kn0wmad/monerod-wrapper/releases/tag/v0.18.2.2

Revuo Monero Issue 168: April 20 - 27, 2023. revuo-xmr.com/issue-168.html

kittypity[xmpp]: > *RavFX[m]:* XMR seam to have some kind of reverse correlation with BTC. So if BTC die, it can only be good, right?

RavFX[m]: btc is never going to die for the very same reason why new articles about how dangerous AI is will be popping up, Windows is going to stay on top of desktop OS usage statistics around the world. Precisely, because sheeple have long-lasting trends and they won't forsake them no matter what

most anonymous way to swap xmr to btc?

i have to stay away from cex they kept records

> <@mlcboss:matrix.org> most anonymous way to swap xmr to btc?

have your tried troucador.app ? They have .onion and .i2p links, too.

kittypity[xmpp]: RavFX[m]: ping me if you see this message

trocador.app is the correct link

dANBs[m]: Pong

Tor link

> <@k4r4b3y:halogen.city> > <@mlcboss:matrix.org> most anonymous way to swap xmr to btc?... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…2b261ca718eff7712180b9105f9489600ff>)

depends on whether I have my i2p setup ready to go. If not, just fire up a tor browser and go

Running Monerod on Start9

I just loaded Start9 on virtualbox to test it out. I sold all my raspberry pi's that were collecting dust in the computer lab during the great raspberry pi shortage of 2022

> <@123bob123:matrix.org> trocadorfyhlu27aefre5u7zri66gudtzdyelymftvr4yjwcxhfaqsid.onion

>

> Tor link

i realized it just an cex aggregator..

i believe p2p would the most anonymous way not through cex

i can have risk getting my bitcoin tainted if regulations do change preventing btc that came from exchanging privacy coin illegal

Basicswap

wait how about LN network , they are private right?

they uses invoice

<k4r4b3y[m]> "Not really" <- XMR > LN?

<mlcboss[m]> "XMR > LN?" <- Yes. By a large margin.

LN not that private.

If LN was decentralized than argument could be made.

But LN is extremely centralized (most people endup to connect to big / high traffic nodes because they like when there TX go thru instead of getting stuck for half a day and not going thru

LN is mostly marketting so people think BTC have a way to actually work

Keep the ponzi alive for more time

"It's coming you guys !!! Two moar years !! "

I thing S*** has a personal lighting hotline

im joking, sort of

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> <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> LN not that private.

> If LN was decentralized than argument could be made.

> But LN is extremely centralized (most people endup to connect to big / high traffic nodes because they like when there TX go thru instead of getting stuck for half a day and not going thru

LN feels like PayPal with extra steps. But I'll be honest I'm not super educated on the topic.

ofrnxmr[m]: Scandalous /s

Xmr bros, its over

There is two thing that are wrong with LN.... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…25ccd1c828051be7ace4beee617d0a8ee87>)

LN on XMR wen

hope never, it's not a working model

Fuck it. We scale on chain.

Initially, when first analyzing Monero and Bitcoin, I thought Monero would need a second layer to scale. However, after better learning how the Lightning Network works, I think it is desirable if transactions can occur on chain.

A 2nd layer doesn't inherently have to be a clown show like LN is. Low fees + big blocks + direct channels (instead of convoluted routing BS) = good

lets see it 🍿