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selsta
importing the blockchain.raw is not a good idea
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selsta
the slow part is the verification process and not the network speed
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selsta
01:13 <charuto> no, that's usually done after the blockchain download, but it's much faster. <-- it downloads the blockchains in chunks and then verifies it, e.g. 100 blocks download -> verification -> download
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L3M0R
For monerod, the config file is bitmonero.conf or monerod.conf? I'm trying to setup monerod to exclusively use the tor service.
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DanIsnotthemanBr
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L3M0R
Since I have setup a location for Blockchain directory, will that location act like "data directory"?
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DanIsnotthemanBr
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Scroll down explains config options
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Voldemort 👺
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L3M0R
Why run a hidden service? Can I simply just route the traffic of monero through socks5@9050?
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RavFX[m]
L3M0R: Some people don't like when there isp and/or state know that they are using Monero. Hidden services allow these people to use monero in a more private manner.
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L3M0R
So does mine, I guess :)
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RavFX[m]
But yes you can simple run monero thru normal tor, exiting and using clearnet services via a tor exit node
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RavFX[m]
s/simple/simply/
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L3M0R
The issue is I'm not convinced by the download speed from the peers. It giving me an ETA of 4 days. But I want to get more peers to optimally use my bandwidth. My guess is due to my location I'm unable to find peers.
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L3M0R
I'm able to browse through the tor service I have setup, just trying to get the monero setup to use the tor service
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TrasherDK[m]
Your bottleneck will be your hardware, no matter if you sync or download and import. I tried 🥱
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L3M0R
How?
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TrasherDK[m]
By trying ????
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L3M0R
No I meant, Does the client processes the downloaded data and then request the next block?
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L3M0R
Which might explain this huge drive activity
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L3M0R
I was under the impression that it would download all the blocks and then verify it
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TrasherDK[m]
Started syncing, too slow. Download and import, even slower. Returned to syncing.
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TrasherDK[m]
The fastest so far was rsync against an up-to-date remote node.
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TrasherDK[m]
What client? `monerod` is a server, syncing against other servers.
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L3M0R
Yes, monerod, my bad
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L3M0R
TrasherDK[m]: Download and import is even slower?
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TrasherDK[m]
Like selsta said: it downloads the blockchains in chunks and then verifies it, e.g. 100 blocks download -> verification -> download some more blocks
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L3M0R
That's what I thought! Someone over here a while back told me its not the case. Thanks for clarifying.
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L3M0R
If that's the case I can be patient
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TrasherDK[m]
Doing the rsync thing, it's about 5-10 hours.
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L3M0R
Somehow it came down to 1 Day. Was 4 Days an hour ago.
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L3M0R
10 is still ok
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TrasherDK[m]
One day is not too bad.
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TrasherDK[m]
Wait until the end, and it get's really slow 😂
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L3M0R
Yeah I've been there :)
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RavFX[m]
the last 2-3% :D
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L3M0R
lmao
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L3M0R
I'm sure it is worth the trouble
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TrasherDK[m]
I'm currently on an external USB spinner. The only way to catch up, was to rsync against another synced node. Otherwise, it would never catch up.
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L3M0R
Where can I catch up on this rsync trick?
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TrasherDK[m]
You would need someone willing to pause their monerod and give you rsync access, normally over ssh.
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L3M0R
In your experience, how long does it takes for a complete sync with prune?
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L3M0R
through monerod.
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TrasherDK[m]
I wouldn't know. Haven't done it in years. Some of the dev guys do it regularly, so ping one of those guys.
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L3M0R
I'm new here :)
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L3M0R
/help
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ofrnxmr[m]
<L3M0R> "Why run a hidden service? Can..." <- Wth
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ofrnxmr[m]
<L3M0R> "For monerod, the config file..." <- Lol
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bike[m]
<L3M0R> "In your experience, how long..." <- 30 years.
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L3M0R
lmao
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ofrnxmr[m]
took my 24 or 25, YMMV
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ofrnxmr[m]
Me*
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L3M0R
sweet
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ofrnxmr[m]
There are some lessonsonline on "how to effectively ask a question"
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ofrnxmr[m]
Good reading
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ofrnxmr[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
Anyway, after deciphering your puzzle
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ofrnxmr[m]
You need a device with a ssd and a modern processor
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ofrnxmr[m]
Sync time 8-24 hrs
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ofrnxmr[m]
Pruned node is around 60gb. But still downloads and verifies all of thesame daya as a full node
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ofrnxmr[m]
Sync time 8-24 hrs
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ofrnxmr[m]
If you use a flag --sync-pruned-blocks it will also download less data
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ofrnxmr[m]
sync time 6-18hrs
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ofrnxmr[m]
If you want to add anonymity networks, s*ths guide is incomplete
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ofrnxmr[m]
His guide setps up rpc aka wallet accees
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ofrnxmr[m]
But doesnt change how the node itself runs.
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ofrnxmr[m]
if you was to relay tx over tor and i2p, you need a morein depth setup
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ofrnxmr[m]
if you want to sync everything over tor, again, that is another step (which will consequentlydisable incoming block syncconnection)
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ofrnxmr[m]
So. Instead of explaining everything, what are ya even trying to do?
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ofrnxmr[m]
"i dont know" hehe
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L3M0R
I've already got my answers.
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L3M0R
But thanks
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ofrnxmr[m]
No you d8dnt
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ofrnxmr[m]
Lmao
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ofrnxmr[m]
K
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Wait till get to the morbs part of syncing
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ofrnxmr[m]
traitor s*th. Misleading people with his guides
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ofrnxmr[m]
Writing 14 btc guides a day = sth got sloppy
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ofrnxmr[m]
s//*/, s/sloppy/sloppy/
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TrasherDK[m]
The Sith, also referred to as the Sith Order, was an ancient religious order of Force-wielders devoted to the dark side of the Force.
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ofrnxmr[m]
i always thought they were the good guys :(
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ofrnxmr[m]
Jedi child thieves
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r4v3r23[m]
attention whore. called it.
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DanIsnotthemanBr
so promoted from Voldemort to sith lord?
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ofrnxmr[m]
He was always emperor palpatine
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r4v3r23[m]
more like a basic bitch
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DanIsnotthemanBr
so plowsof is yoda?
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fr33_yourself[m]
Question: can i configure a pruned node to connect to mobile devices after syncing (I think this process is called RPC?) or does I need to do something special prior to syncing the node?
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TrasherDK[m]
What do you mean. Connect to a mobile device?
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ofrnxmr[m]
Do you mean a wallet?
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fr33_yourself[m]
I want my mobile wallet to connect to a device maintaining a pruned node at my house.
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ofrnxmr[m]
Anyway, yes, you can connect to your node remotel
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ofrnxmr[m]
--rpc-restricted-bind-port=18089
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ofrnxmr[m]
--rpc-restricted-bind-ip=0.0.0.0
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ofrnxmr[m]
Connect via PUBLICIP:18089
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fr33_yourself[m]
Can I configure that post-sync or do I need to do something special prior to spinning up the node?
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ofrnxmr[m]
If service provider blocks, setup an onion to 18089
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ofrnxmr[m]
fr33_yourself[m]: Any time
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ofrnxmr[m]
Can enable and disable at will
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ofrnxmr[m]
But pruning is 1 time. You cant unprune
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ofrnxmr[m]
Most other flags are just runtime settings / feature toggles
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ofrnxmr[m]
If you run prune flag once, it will always prune.
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ofrnxmr[m]
^ this is an outlier
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ofrnxmr[m]
most flags you set (block sync size, sync mode, port and ip binds, connections and destinations) can all be changed repeatedly
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fr33_yourself[m]
presumably i should enable "min battery usage" settings on my laptop and disable it from falling asleep if I want the node to run 24/7 as well, correct?
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Yest
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fr33_yourself[m]
awesome sounds like a good plan
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fr33_yourself[m]
Alright, thank you gents. Much appreciated
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ofrnxmr[m]
just make sure that setting doesnt put usb or network to sleep
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ofrnxmr[m]
I remember the days of disabling "usb selective(?) suspend" to stop cortupting my phones sd card
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Windows power options
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ofrnxmr[m]
Then i 🚮 the whole pc just to get rid of windows
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fr33_yourself[m]
alright, I intend on storing the chain on the internal ssd of the laptop, so I don't think usb ports going to sleep will be a problem. I'll have to investigate network sleep
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Could have HDD sleep after …mins
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fr33_yourself[m]
right now the laptop has windows, but I don't like the risks associated with using windows, so I plan on removing it and installing ubuntu instead and running the pruned node on ubuntu
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ofrnxmr[m]
Dont need to remove it. Though, i dont miss it at all
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ofrnxmr[m]
I hear windows problems and feel like "how is that my problem? Use a real os"
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ofrnxmr[m]
"my windiws wont.."
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ofrnxmr[m]
Boot into linux
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ofrnxmr[m]
Usually.. broken windows stuff is by design. Whether it be hijacking uefi, or deleting xmrig, or telling you rustdesk.com is unsafe
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fr33_yourself[m]
what is uefi?
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Trung
UnEducatedFunkyInlaws
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DanIsnotthemanBr
Close
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charuto
selsta: by verification i thought they meant scanning the blockchain for spendable outputs aka the second sync, perhaps that's not the right term though.
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selsta
charuto: do you mean the wallet sync?
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charuto
yes
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selsta
the slow part about daemon sync is verification so that's why importing the blockchain.raw file usually doesn't help
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selsta
since the download speed was never the bottleneck in the first place
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charuto
what is the verification? just integrity and validation checks?
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selsta
it verifies the validity of all transactions and the block itself
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charuto
makes sense, thanks for explaining, so is the bottleneck usually on the disk or the cpu?
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DanIsnotthemanBr
The old dont trust, verify
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selsta
charuto: random disk IO speed is the main bottleneck, i think afterwards it's CPU
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charuto
good to know
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toralien[m]
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toralien[m]
or just your local?
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toralien[m]
because my fs doesn't look like that
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ofrnxmr[m]
Custom
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M1234random4321[
Cake too greedy to even refund 10 bucks out of 40 for basically kyc shotgun (well not really but pretty much) while having the necessary to redeem the MasterCard themselves...
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M1234random4321[
And obviously since nothing works nowadays, the reddit post doesnt even show up either due to being new account:
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M1234random4321[
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M1234random4321[
TL;DR: I don't even know why CakePay Europe is even a thing while literally all the other services like bitrefill, allark and the likes are far better and don't kyc shotgun for basic purchase to buy food...
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plowsof11
a moderator has to manually approve ^ have you contacted cake about this? where/when does the kyc happen?
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ofrnxmr[m]
sgp:
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DivyanshJoshi[m]
Hi, Is Monero a protocol that enables users to securely and privately forward payments received at a stealth address to another address without the forwarding being observable on the blockchain?
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nioc
all txs are on the blockchain and therefore observable but who sent it, who received it and the amount of the tx are unknown except by the sender and receiver
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DivyanshJoshi[m]
The outsider can see it as it is on the blockchain, but will not be able to make sense of it. Right?
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M1234random4321[
plowsof11: Contacted them but basically "no refunds", the kyc is from their partner to redeem the MasterCard
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M1234random4321[
On the first screen selecting the card on cakepay there was no mention of kyc, granted I should have read more carefully the 2nd screen but even then I probably would have mistaken it with just basic Info's like name, billing address and the likes instead of full on ID card required
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M1234random4321[
Which I lost physical wallet with everything in it earlier this week and Monero was my only way to buy food which I ended up doing through bitrefill without issue
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M1234random4321[
Still sucks that when money is that tight in situations like these, cake just straight up refusing to send back even just 10 bucks out of 40 while being able to redeem the whole 40 themselves..
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r4v3r23[m]
> <@1234random4321:matrix.org> Cake too greedy to even refund 10 bucks out of 40 for basically kyc shotgun (well not really but pretty much) while having the necessary to redeem the MasterCard themselves...
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r4v3r23[m]
> And obviously since nothing works nowadays, the reddit post doesnt even show up either due to being new account:
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r4v3r23[m]
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r4v3r23[m]
"waiting for approval" - monero reddit is just a marketing dept for cake
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r4v3r23[m]
who would have thought cuck was shady?
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r4v3r23[m]
s/cake/cuck wallet/
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RavFX[m]
> <@1234random4321:matrix.org> plowsof11: Contacted them but basically "no refunds", the kyc is from their partner to redeem the MasterCard... (full message at <
libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…71a4112ddfef4448ef90b491204174a47c0>)
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ofrnxmr[m]
<r4v3r23[m]> "> <@1234random4321:matrix.org..." <- Reddit auto blocks stuff
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ofrnxmr[m]
monerobull: is not affiliated with cake and can approve the post
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monerobull[m]
Hello
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ofrnxmr[m]
> <@1234random4321:matrix.org> Cake too greedy to even refund 10 bucks out of 40 for basically kyc shotgun (well not really but pretty much) while having the necessary to redeem the MasterCard themselves...
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ofrnxmr[m]
> And obviously since nothing works nowadays, the reddit post doesnt even show up either due to being new account:
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ofrnxmr[m]
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ofrnxmr[m]
This post was blocked
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monerobull[m]
Is it?
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monerobull[m]
Looks like it's accessible
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RavFX[m]
CakePay Europe just sucks (self.Monero)
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RavFX[m]
submitted 6 hours ago by 1234random4321
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RavFX[m]
[removed]
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ofrnxmr[m]
^ thats what i see
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monerobull[m]
Oh ok
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monerobull[m]
Approved it
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monerobull[m]
Didn't have any red notice that it's removed so i thought its accessible
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M1234random4321[
Just stuck waiting approval, sometimes reddit shows as deleted when it's like that, without pinging on those other platforms posts like that just never gets approved anyways...
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M1234random4321[
monerobull: Thank you
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monerobull[m]
Yeah just ping me if something doesn't get approved
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M1234random4321[
monerobull: comment still shows as deleted tho
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monerobull[m]
Approved
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M1234random4321[
Thanks, appreciate it
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nioc
DivyanshJoshi[m]: txs look like this on a block explorer
xmrchain.net
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nioc
in cases where meta data is collected and shared between entities it is possible to narrow down possible addresses
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nioc
this can happen if the same address is shared among various entities but this can be mitigated easily enough
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nioc
use subaddresses or different main addresses
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binaryFate
.
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M1234random4321[
monerobull: Sorry bothering you again, replied to a couple comments and it's getting caught up in the filter again
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monerobull[m]
Approved
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monerobull[m]
You probably don't have enough karma
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devaux[m]
Hi :)
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M1234random4321[
Thank you again, it's a new account yeah, I usually just lurk reddit through libreddit.de and things like that without login in
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DivyanshJoshi[m]
<nioc> "this can happen if the same..." <- So this is a drawback, as a lot of different addresses must be used in order to preserve privacy?
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nioc
DivyanshJoshi[m]: any problem happens when the different entities have info on you that identifies you, such as an exchange or a merchant, and they share info between themselves.
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nioc
there are wallets that will give you a different receiving address for each tx
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nioc
all goes to the same wallet
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nioc
even btc recommends that you use a different address each time but I don't think that does much good once your identity is associated with an address
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nioc
when sending txs you don't need to use a different address as the address is not shown on the blockchain
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toralien[m]
<devaux[m]> "Hi :)" <- banano @
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toralien[m]
> <@devaux:matrix.org> Hi :)
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toralien[m]
* banano 👍
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dANBs[m]
HighQualityAgent[xmpp]: Restrict Act and ChatControl and *Why Encryption Matters*
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dANBs[m]
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dANBs[m]
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not_thankful_for
Has anyone tried anonshop.app ? They claim you can pay for Monero for stuff, and you can buy whatever you want on any site (e.g: something on amazon). However, they have next to no review, so I'm worried they might scam.
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not_thankful_for
* on amazon, paying with monero). However,
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not_thankful_for
* Has anyone tried anonshop.app ? They claim you can pay for Monero for stuff, and you can buy whatever you want on any site (e.g: something on amazon, paying with monero). However, they have next to no reviews online, so I'm worried they might scam.
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cockliuser[m]
It was supposed to be P2P but they just bailed on the P2P part and turned into a B4U service
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not_thankful_for
<cockliuser[m]> "It was supposed to be P2P but..." <- Is it a scam?
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cockliuser[m]
Not sure, haven't used it
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DanIsnotthemanBr
is that the guy who does dev section in monerotalk?
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chesterfield[m]
Does anyone have a link to that sci-fi short story about a store manager ai bot thing
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chesterfield[m]
Not Monero related, just figured someone here might know