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20 May 2023

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• 00:57
  Capybara[m]
  This might be stupid, but is there a way to send monero without internet?
• 01:01
  mlcboss[m]
  Capybara[m]: > <@capybara:projectsegfau.lt> This might be stupid, but is there a way to send monero without internet?
• 01:01
  mlcboss[m]
  >
• 01:01
  mlcboss[m]
  exchange private keys , i have seen bitcoin giftcards
• 01:01
  Capybara[m]
  how
• 01:01
  mlcboss[m]
  Capybara[m]: > <@capybara:projectsegfau.lt> This might be stupid, but is there a way to send monero without internet?
• 01:01
  mlcboss[m]
  >
• 01:01
  mlcboss[m]
  or use an xmr atm
• 01:01
  Capybara[m]
  ?
• 01:02
  Capybara[m]
  * how?
• 03:33
  mlcboss[m]
  <Capybara[m]> "how" <- the sender give you a printed private key which you can withdrew later on if you have internet
• 03:33
  mlcboss[m]
  but you totally need to trust that person to not stole your xmr before you can withdrew it
• 03:33
  mlcboss[m]
  it's the same scena
• 03:41
  mlcboss[m]
  scenario as giftcards & cash
• 10:55
  cockliuser[m]
  Does anyone know if Monerujo's Sidekick is functional?
• 10:58
  cockliuser[m]
  Or any updates/news about it
• 11:23
  nsaunders
  I'm using the cli wallet and am looking to sync the daemon. To my recollection, rather than downloading the blockchain, there's an alternate way to connect which doesn't require storage?
• 11:47
  nsaunders
  it's at 1% sync. I don't have the space or network to download the other 99% of the blockchain. Surely there's a work-around?
• 12:07
  anarkiocrypto[m]
  You can use a remote node: monero.stackexchange.com/questions/…-monero-wallet-cli-to-a-remote-node List here: monero.fail
• 12:20
  TrasherDK[m]
  nsaunders: You could use `--bootstrap-daemon-address`... (full message at <libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/do…edcea722758b80a94dcc2b92c27f2a7d780>)
• 13:41
  nicky1086[m]
  Buy google accounts, telegram accounts and ebooks at moneromarket.io/u/nicky1086
• 16:36
  ecstasy8[m]
  <ofrnxmr[m]> "Tor over vpn is good, but vpns..." <- VPN can help against ISP logging maybe...
• 16:42
  RavFX[m]
  ecstasy8[m]: Localmonero.co
• 16:42
  RavFX[m]
  cash->Monero
• 16:46
  ofrnxmr[m]
  Cash > monero
• 16:48
  Tremor[m]
  <RavFX[m]> "Localmonero.co..." <- > <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> Localmonero.co
• 16:48
  Tremor[m]
  > cash->Monero
• 16:48
  Tremor[m]
  Speaking of. How do you go about mailing the cash (in the USA)? Do you get a USPS priorty flat rate box/envelope and then hiding the cash in a magazine or newspaper or something?
• 16:48
  Tremor[m]
  I would imagine a basic envelope with a stamp wouldn't be safe/smart
• 16:50
  RavFX[m]
  No idea, Probably basic envelope with the cash in folded sheets. tracked.
• 16:50
  RavFX[m]
  In Localmonero, I can pay for buying Monero with cash at most convenient stores. Never used the "cash by mail option"
• 16:51
  Tremor[m]
  RavFX[m]: > <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> No idea, Probably basic envelope with the cash in folded sheets. tracked.
• 16:51
  Tremor[m]
  >
• 16:51
  Tremor[m]
  > In Localmonero, I can pay for buying Monero with cash at most convenient stores. Never used the "cash by mail option"
• 16:51
  Tremor[m]
  "most convenient stores" what option is this?
• 16:52
  nioc
  there might be a description for mailing cash on the LM site
• 16:53
  nioc
  the traders will usually have instructions as well
• 16:53
  RavFX[m]
  Tremor[m]: bank deposit
• 16:53
  RavFX[m]
  In most latin america you can deposit cash into people bank account from most convenient store
• 16:54
  RavFX[m]
  No porn asked, totally anon
• 16:54
  Tremor[m]
  RavFX[m]: > <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> bank deposit
• 16:54
  Tremor[m]
  > In most latin america you can deposit cash into people bank account from most convenient store
• 16:54
  Tremor[m]
  No info needed? Just walk up and say, "Hey, I have $xxx and I want to deposit into John Doe's account with account # 133769420 ?"
• 16:55
  RavFX[m]
  Tremor[m]: Yeah
• 16:55
  RavFX[m]
  deposit 10000 in 1234 1234 1234 1234 (card number)
• 16:55
  Tremor[m]
  Thats slick
• 17:01
  ecstasy8[m]
  Deposit?
• 17:01
  ecstasy8[m]
  Meeting a person is so inconvenient and unanonymous
• 17:03
  ecstasy8[m]
  Deposit kind of sucks
• 17:03
  ecstasy8[m]
  I hope there is a way to just mail on localmonero ...
• 17:13
  ofrnxmr[m]
  You can mail on LM, but ive never done it
• 17:14
  ofrnxmr[m]
  Not sure how to do it without trust. How hard to prove what was in the envelope if they dispute? I dont know
• 17:15
  ofrnxmr[m]
  LocalMonero Official Group might have more answers
• 17:21
  ecstasy8[m]
  You just would progressively establish trust! I found a mail person on LM :)
• 17:22
  ecstasy8[m]
  lol and they linked a money manifesto at the bottom of their terms xD
• 17:23
  ecstasy8[m]
  <RavFX[m]> "Localmonero.co..." <- > <@gfdshygti53:monero.social> Localmonero.co
• 17:23
  ecstasy8[m]
  > cash->Monero
• 17:23
  ecstasy8[m]
  thx
• 17:33
  nsaunders
  TrasherDK[m]: thx
• 17:33
  nsaunders
  anarkiocrypto[m]: thx
• 18:15
  k4r4b3y[m]1
  would anyone be interested in developing a flarum forum extension for Monero payments per user registry/posting ? discuss.flarum.org/d/32884-monero-p…yment-method-for-user-registrations
• 18:15
  k4r4b3y[m]1
  PHP devs wanted.
• 19:09
  anarkiocrypto[m]
  MoneroIntegrations would work (based on view keys) or Xmrchain API (based on TX keys).
• 19:09
  anarkiocrypto[m]
  MoneroIntegrations code is here: github.com/monero-integrations/mone…er/include/class-monero-gateway.php and github.com/monero-integrations/mone…ude/class-monero-explorer-tools.php. It's designed for WooCommerce but you can copy the relevant payment validation code.
• 19:09
  anarkiocrypto[m]
  (For TX key validation, I wrote this: codeberg.org/anarkio/vendo/src/branch/main/src/func/monero_api.php but my code is messy. You only really need this: xmrchain.net/api/outputs?txhash=TXI…_HERE&viewkey=TX_KEY_HERE&txprove=1)
• 19:10
  k4r4b3y[m]1
  thanks anarkio, I will check them out.
• 20:28
  nsaunders
  I ran monero-wallet-cli --daemon-address node.moneroworld.com:18089 and now it's saying Height 77337 / 2890240 about how much data is that? I have a slow connection and not much hd space.
• 20:32
  lza_menace
  nsaunders: not much data on your disk, but it will take a while to sync up. several hours in the least
• 20:38
  side-trips[m]
  Is the the mailing list kill? I keep getting server error when I try to sub.
• 20:41
  nsaunders
  lza_menace: thx. and is that like a one-time thing? Can I connect my daemon to that remote node somehow?
• 20:42
  nsaunders
  Height 130365 / 2890249
• 21:46
  DanIsnotthemanBr
  monero.observer/foundation-devices-…ies-passport-hardware-wallet-monero
• 21:46
  DanIsnotthemanBr
  Anyone that has passport looked at this?
• 22:21
  side-trips[m]
  Am I right to assume running two moneronodo machines = more stability therefore more anonymity? Or am I in the wrong ballpark altogether?
• 22:29
  r4v3r23[m]
  repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/388
• 22:29
  r4v3r23[m]
  anyone interested in support monero's android ecosystem - drop a comment here in support of this CCS
• 22:30
  nsaunders
  how would connect the daemon so that it's using a remote node?
• 22:44
  Rucknium[m]
  side-trips: I don't see the logic. Probably it's worse: "Oh this IP address has two nodes running. Only side-trips does that, so we know it's them."
• 22:45
  saunders
  You don't need a full node just for a wallet?
• 22:46
  Rucknium[m]
  saunders: No. You don't _need_ it. For better privacy and security, it's better to run your own node.
• 22:46
  saunders
  🙏
• 22:51
  side-trips[m]
  <Rucknium[m]> "side-trips: I don't see the..." <- this is what I was afraid of actually, thank you for confirming
• 22:58
  ofrnxmr[m]
  You can do this locally
• 22:58
  ofrnxmr[m]
  I do.
• 23:07
  ofrnxmr[m]
  A bunch of reasons. But hosting multiple on the same network doesnt make much sense.
• 23:07
  ofrnxmr[m]
  * the same public network doesnt
• 23:08
  lza_menace
  nsaunders: you will always have to sync up to get wallet balances and be able to publish/broadcast txes. but the next time you run the wallet it will continue where it last was
• 23:14
  nsaunders
  thx lza_menace
• 23:21
  ofrnxmr[m]
  Youre mixing up wallet and daemon
• 23:22
  nsaunders
  pls explain
• 23:22
  nsaunders
  I would like the daemon to automatically pull from a remote node. That's not possible?
• 23:23
  nsaunders
  ofrnxmr[m]: but I certainly don't require a full node
• 23:23
  ofrnxmr[m]
  Daemon = node
• 23:23
  ofrnxmr[m]
  node = sync, validate and share the blockchain
• 23:23
  ofrnxmr[m]
  blockchain = storage of all tx
• 23:24
  ofrnxmr[m]
  This - the daemon/node, is a "server"
• 23:24
  nsaunders
  when a wallet uses a remote node, what's being stored locally?
• 23:25
  ofrnxmr[m]
  only the wallets inputs
• 23:26
  ofrnxmr[m]
  A node does not know what tx belong to you, so you receive the entire block, and the wallet looks thriugh the block for transactions that belong to you.
• 23:26
  ofrnxmr[m]
  What isnt yours, is discarded
• 23:27
  ofrnxmr[m]
  Syncing a wallet with a remode daemon can USE a lot of traffic, but will not store vero much at all
• 23:27
  ofrnxmr[m]
  very* much
• 23:50
  gingeropolous
  oh noes. tryin to sync with --fast-sync 0 and Height: 1242187/1242187
• 23:51
  gingeropolous
  lets see if the daemon can fix itself
• 23:56
  DanIsnotthemanBr
  <ofrnxmr[m]> "You can do this locally" <- same, run vpn connect to node with stack or cake with tls connect wut wut!