libera #monero

15 Aug 2023

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• 00:20
  m-relay
  <s​gp:magicgrants.org> I think so?
• 00:55
  m-relay
  <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Wasnt jeffro looking at this?
• 14:10
  m-relay
  <c​ompdec:matrix.org> Are the outputs on a Monero transaction similar to Bitcoin with one output going to the recipient and one going back to the sender as a change address, or am I misunderstanding something?
• 14:19
  m-relay
  <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> You have 16 output (one of which is the real output).
• 14:19
  m-relay
  <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> But yes, part of it go to a recipient stealth address while the other part to back to your stealth address (change)
• 14:20
  m-relay
  <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> They are nothing like bitcoin in the sense that you can't make who sent it, who received it and the amount
• 14:21
  m-relay
  <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> You can take a look at that explorer xmrblockexplorer.org
• 14:21
  m-relay
  <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> And see the difference compared to btc transaction
• 14:42
  m-relay
  <c​ompdec:matrix.org> thanks. I think you mean 16 inputs to a ring I think. It does seem that the Merkle Tree is verified in a similar fashion as bitcoin then.
• 14:54
  m-relay
  <f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> hi guys
• 14:54
  m-relay
  <f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> this isn't the first time I've done P2Pool mining thru my wallet, so I'm not sure why it is asking me now:
• 14:54
  m-relay
  <f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…unter.club/FUlMUzaiLnSbhirbVWzPXwmF
• 14:54
  m-relay
  <f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> is it safe to proceed?
• 15:58
  sech1
  If you updated your wallet, or delete p2pool folder, it will ask again
• 16:07
  m-relay
  <f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> it was Windows Security
• 16:08
  sech1
  Add Monero GUI folder to antivirus exceptions
• 16:09
  sech1
  all Monero stuff triggers antiviruses
• 16:09
  m-relay
  <f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> yeah i finally did that now
• 16:09
  m-relay
  <f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> lol
• 18:18
  m-relay
  <n​aphtha:kyun.host> did you get your wallet from getmonero.org?
• 18:18
  m-relay
  <n​aphtha:kyun.host> there's a fake phishing website getmonero.app
• 18:18
  m-relay
  <n​aphtha:kyun.host> and i dont know why its still up its been like a month
• 18:49
  m-relay
  <p​lowsof:matrix.org> SetupMonero.rar 🤔
• 18:57
  rbrunner
  Yeah, that makes my heart sing. The clearly malicious file "SetupMonero.exe" inside there gets a crystall clear "0/66" on Virus Total
• 18:57
  rbrunner
  "No security vendors and no sandboxes flagged this file as malicious"
• 18:58
  rbrunner
  Whereas our legit GUI app installer gets flagged by probably half of all these nice "vendors".
• 19:01
  rbrunner
  Sandbox execution finds out that it sets the registry key "HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\WMI\AutoLogger\Circular Kernel Context Logger\Status"
• 19:01
  rbrunner
  Totally legit.
• 19:03
  m-relay
  <p​lowsof:matrix.org> Maybe we can contact the creators to reduce our detection rates lol (surely then it has zero crypto things... May even be a "enter your seed thanks" simple gui)
• 19:03
  rbrunner
  Kernel logging is essentail for crypto wallets :)
• 19:14
  m-relay
  <2​cansam:matrix.org> back in college they used to call me 2cansam because I could stack 2 coke cans on top of my dick.
• 19:17
  rbrunner
  It may be this nice critter here: cybernews.com/malware/remove-wacatac-trojan-virus
• 19:17
  rbrunner
  WIN32/Wacatc.B!ml
• 19:18
  rbrunner
  WIN32/Wacatac.B!ml
• 19:54
  m-relay
  <1​23bob123:matrix.org> Bitdefender doesnt like it either
• 20:06
  m-relay
  <e​dge7:matrix.org> Just tested xmrig for Android. Seems to work fine even with p2pool. Pretty cool for 500h/s more with a phone which I don't use anymore
• 20:22
  m-relay
  <f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> i've literally never heard of this one lmao
• 21:27
  certanan
  Hello, everyone. What address does change get sent to? Is it simply the wallet's primary address using a stealth address?
• 21:28
  m-relay
  <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I think it depend of the wallet.
• 21:28
  m-relay
  <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> Feather wallet send it to the main address.
• 21:30
  m-relay
  <g​fdshygti53:monero.social> I'm thinking about it.. I think it's the case for most? wallet
• 21:36
  certanan
  I'm reading through the reference implementation and it appears to be the case:
• 21:36
  certanan
  `change_dts.addr = get_subaddress({subaddr_account, 0});`
• 21:39
  certanan
  Actually: The second argument is the subaddress index. And, if I understand correctly, the 0th subaddress is the primary address. Perhaps I'm missing something; I'll dig deeper.
• 21:43
  certanan
  Actually it's the minor index, meaning that the subroutine call refers an account's primary address (if that's what it's called)?
• 21:54
  certanan
  Is a wallet's primary different from its 0th subaddress?
• 23:18
  Monerochad
  Starting to love IRC 😭❤️