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<n​uck:trad.chat> Good evening

<n​uck:trad.chat> Real practical question for you all: I have a tiny stack of monero, and I want to actually use it.

<n​uck:trad.chat> If I were to buy a, say, nice mechanical keyboard on Amazon, what is the best offramp path from wallet to cash for this?

<n​uck:trad.chat> Coinbee gift cards tack on ~10% fee

i bought stuff off shopinbit, you even get a discount if you pay in crypto

selection is limited of course not as wide as amazon

stagenets being spammed again

For backward compat, the "primary" standard address is used instead of the 0,0 subaddress. So from a user's pov, "a wallet's primary" is not "different from its 0th subaddress".

I'm completely new to this concept of mining, but I'm using it as a project to learn Linux server and workstation principles

Building an older server to mine monero with

According to some website it should have a hashrate of 14000

<c​trej:matrix.org> ideally you look for a store that accepts monero natively. Other crypto is okey too, you can easily pay trough tocador.app.

<c​trej:matrix.org> Amazon doesn't support either, so gift cards may be your best option. Cakepay.com is online again, but there's no public list of supported stores. Maybe vik (Cake): can give you a yes/no before singing up.

<c​trej:matrix.org> You could also try to find a p2p trade for an amazon gift card, or trade for cash and buy a physical gift card with that.

<c​trej:matrix.org> I also heard there's some dude who ships amazon articles any locker and send you the pin. Not sure about the fees though.

Started to mine on stagenet with about 2 kH/s to bring the backlog down. Currently finding more than half of all blocks.

cool story

Stagenet pool is cleared. I guess now we wait for the next big wave of transactions ...

With so few (I assume) people running stagenet, running with a quite small max pool weight will drop most txes on the floor. It will at least force a spammer to spam less hard for a longer period of time.

(or mine themselves)

Though I suppose it opens up a way to kick others' txes off the txpool by using a larger than normal fee.

Well, there were about 6'000 transactions in the pool, not a "real" problem yet. Always having the right number of miners on stagenet is probably the bigger issue.

Mining stagenet is so ... unprofitable :)

I am currently connected to almost 50 other nodes, it's not that bad.

<t​iberius.maximus:matrix.org> Do any of the centralized exchanges still offer xmr?

<t​iberius.maximus:matrix.org> Without kyc?

Try the list on kycnot.me.

<t​iberius.maximus:matrix.org> Thanks but these are mostly p2p exchanges, correct? Please correct me if I'm wrong

<t​iberius.maximus:matrix.org> For small amounts I believe the centralized exchanges have don't require kyc and allow you to buy closer to the market price rather than the p2p exchanges

Not sure. I've not gone through the list.

<t​iberius.maximus:matrix.org> Ok thx. Anyone else know?

I would guess that nowadays people that *really* value their privacy do away with DEXs. Thus it may well be that pretty few people can answer with authority here.

There also have been repeated cases where "no-KYC" exchanges sort-of changed their mind for some transactions. You can hear those people shouting bloody murder then on Reddit :)

I would either bite into the sour apple, make KYC and enjoy a top-notch world class exchange like Kraken

or then bite into another sour apple and go pure p2p only

<t​iberius.maximus:matrix.org> Looks like still possible on phemex

<s​uitslie:hackliberty.org> where was that website with monero events?

Kycnot.me celebrated its 3rd anniversary

<s​uitslie:hackliberty.org> is m-relay relaying from irc?

<s​uitslie:hackliberty.org> oh yeah it is, couldn't see avatar well

<s​uitslie:hackliberty.org> in 2 months we're hitting 3000000

I got scammed 300USD

bought an ebay gift card on coinsbee and now it doesn't work

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> Would localmonero prevent the customer from being scammed in the above situation Alex | LocalMonero | AgoraDesk

PSA to whoever is using simpleX and not getting a response from someone after resetting or uninstalling and then reinstalling the app; try sending an invite link so that they can respond

or use threema...

I am trying to help someone by relaying a specific message

<A​bo Gemaal el-Folani 👑> only scholars use threema💀

Isn't Threema the closed source thing?

. . . and centralized?

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> It's open sores

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Probably just the client

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Let me check

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Yes, servers are in switzerland or whatever

definitely just the client

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Yes, servers are in Switzerland or whatever

just found out on the Wikipedia article

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Yep, only the client

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Like telegram

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Just a honeypot

so similar metadata issues to Signal, with worse source openness, better in terms of not requiring a telephone number, but more directly tracked by the provider because of paid service

I tried SimpleX on a slightly older phone, and it doesn't even fucking work.

can't accept an invitation

What is m-relay?

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> IRC<->matrix relay I think

Oh, is that the new way to do a Matrix relay? It's . . . clunky.

good to know

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> I agree

damn it, Libera Chat

This whole thing has been kind of a clusterfuck. "We're shutting down the bridge at X. No, we're extending it. Oops, it broke at X anyway. Follow these directions to get the other way to bridge between channels. Oops, those instructions don't work. Now people have established bridges, but it's clunky."

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Threema had to patch a few severe vulnerabilities recently.

at least they fixed 'me

s/'me/'em/

<b​igslim:matrix.org> Monero new

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> Threema only recently fixed there encryption and got audited

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> PFS was implemented on the second of august it seems

<r​ecanman:agoradesk.com> Or after their new cryptography was audited

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> They did a re-write of it from what i remember

<1​23bob123:matrix.org> I dont use it btw

<r​ottenwheel:nokyc.im> Threema's call quality is the best by far in all e2ee applications, for what it is worth. Re: payment tracking, can pay BTC or a coin swapping service XMR<->BTC and a throwaway e-mail.

<r​ottenwheel:nokyc.im> cc. uncle_rae