<n​aphtha:kyun.host> what is that

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> does it work with matrix

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> .bal

<n​aphtha:kyun.host> no worky 😿

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> how much do you guys make from solo mining per month

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> or p2pool

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> like 15$ or so (free electricity)

that sucks

<g​fdshygti53:monero.social> It's mainly to burn the production surplus

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> i make like 15¢

<s​adlittlewannabesamurai> i have ~¢40 rn and have been p2pool mining in the mini sidechain for only a few days

<s​adlittlewannabesamurai> i am entirely unconcerned in regards to electricity costs

<s​adlittlewannabesamurai> i have ~¢40 worth of monero rn and have been p2pool mining in the mini sidechain for only a few days

<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> I don't mine all the time anyway.

<s​adlittlewannabesamurai> i could play a game of pac-man with that much monero

<m​wkbarnjbblghgo4gudng:karp.lol> solo mining? On what?

Hi, what the best mining software for linux on server with latest intel CPUs? (cli)

I think xmrig.

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<f​rightsi:waifuhunter.club> scam

just getting started with monero. trying to wrap my head around the basics. using the cli version. Have another machine where I can use tails to set up a paper wallet if need be

So, I'm thinking paper wallet or not, run node? (can't atm for lack of space), how to get going without downloading the full blockchain...

I do also have multiple pages from the docs open :)

Presumably I have to pick a semi-trusted 3rd party source for now

Yes. You gotta hope those people are not spying on you. Most probably are.

A pruned chain is... maybe 60 GB ?

Don't have a stable enough home setup currently, and can't afford to add 60GB to my vps

Your node does not have to run all the time.

hmm ok

I got bitten with bitcoin block chain in the past. Quite a few times. Where pruned chain gets a little corrupted and I had to re download the entire chain again. In the end it also showed up faults in the external hdd it was on.

The repeated downloads of the full chain was quite a problem. Any ideas if it's more or less likely with monero?

It is.

<s​adlittlewannabesamurai> are there any downsides to running a pruned node

Compared to running an unpruned node: you can't get the details of most old txes, and you can't serve these to another node. Not much of a problem.

Compared to not running a node: you can't use monero (unless you capitulate to some person to make their the arbiter of your choices).

rahl: if you have a broken disk, it will sooner or later corrupt the chain.

Just get rid of it.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> rahl: Don't use a HDD, especially an external one, for a Monero node. Monero requires a lot of random reads. If you use a HDD, it can take weeks to sync. With a SSD it will take days at most.

m-relay: ack, much obliged

<s​adlittlewannabesamurai> yeah i have an SSD and it only took around one day to sync the unpruned node

reasonable node basis? thepihut.com/blogs/raspberry-pi-tut…set-up-an-ssd-with-the-raspberry-pi

<s​adlittlewannabesamurai> i personally wouldn't even use an external SSD because of the overhead USB has compared to both SATA and PCIe

fair

was my main concern

The rpi is bad at running a node. I think it's bad I/O performance and no HW AES (though not sure how much HW AES mattesr nowadays).

sorry rucknium: ack, much obliged ;)

There are other arm boards that are much better at it though.

moneromooo: good to know

arm boards that have a more direct ssd connection?

I have not much experience of this so I won't comment further.

np, I appreciate the help

wonder how this might shape up pine64.org/rockpro64

I think this one qualifies as good.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> IIRC, people do recommend rockpro64 for running monero nodes on single board computers

<r​ucknium:monero.social> reddit.com/r/Monero/search/?q=rockpro64

cool.

So running a pruned node is one thing. Then it's the choice of hot or cold wallet; cold being paper or hardware?

<s​hermand100:matrix.org> In my experience creating PiNodeXMR I'd suggest the Rock Pi 4 series for value.

<s​hermand100:matrix.org> Same processor and specs but cheaper accessories like the case, expansion boards etc.

<s​hermand100:matrix.org> They also have a newer Rock Pi 5 that's even better

cheers

Also also, to zmq or not?

I tend to default to turning things off at least until I have some vague notion of what they're doing

<c​trej:matrix.org> Its very hard to beat a used mini PC in value. You can get an i5 6500T, 8GB ram, 256GB SSD for about 100€ - including case, heatsink, fan, and power supply

<c​trej:matrix.org> Idle power is about 6W, monerod takes about 2% of the CPU

<s​needlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> why not both!? cold wallet for big amounts and long term storage, hot wallet for pocket money that you can easily spend

<s​needlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> and personally I prefer paper over hardware

ctrej: also totally reasonable, thanks

sneedlewoods_xmr: ok, that makes sense. Slowly building a better picture

<k​ilopool:matrix.org> Does P2Pool reject valid solutions sent for the previous job (which can happen frequently with high-latency connections)?

P2Pool remembers 4 last mining jobs sent, so it shouldn't reject previous job

<k​ilopool:matrix.org> Ok, thank you.

<s​adlittlewannabesamurai> would it be in any way worthwhile to try compiling the Monero tools on modern OpenVMS

<s​adlittlewannabesamurai> oh it wouldn't VSI says that virtualization support is a requirement for OpenVMS