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<baz:monero.social> hey guys/gals, I just noticed getmonero.org SSL cert expired
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m-relay
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Hep, I confirm
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<baz:monero.social> >Not After
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<baz:monero.social> Mon, 18 Dec 2023 23:59:59 GMT
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Imajin using cron to auto update certificates
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m-relay
<baz:monero.social> 👍️
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m-relay
<baz:monero.social> if ya use letsencrypt. this cert looks like its from sectigo.com
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m-relay
<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> What system should i get to generate 1000~2000 CZK per month in XMR (i live in energy class A building and have solar panels and could add more)
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m-relay
<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> This wouldn't happen if it was an onion service when will they learn!
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» m-relay <5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> is designing a new home-server and wants to set it up in a way where it would constantly mine monero on the spare power
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nioCat
to get 1000 czk/mo you would need a hash rate of ~60000h/s
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nioCat
that's like 4 ryzen 5900X CPUs
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nioCat
maybe 600w from the wall
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m-relay
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m-relay
<baz:monero.social> they do. 😉
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m-relay
<baz:monero.social> i needed the binary, i got it via the onion
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m-relay
<123bob123:matrix.org> No one payed the bill
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m-relay
<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> monero devs going broke?\
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m-relay
<baz:monero.social> well, i made an issue on github. perhaps someone will look into that. you can't download anything or reach the site.
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m-relay
<baz:monero.social> i just hope it doesn't break anything. i don't see how it would, but you never know.
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Pings already sent
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<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> So basically if i get two epyc 9654 (~200 000 CZK each) and a motherboard with RAM (around 300 000 CZK) then i will make 3140 CZK per month assuming that i can give it constantly around 800W
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> -dev and pms
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> On monero-site?
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Monero Website you can send a ping there
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m-relay
<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> Or AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X which has hashrate of 65116.88 H/s which sells for around 100K CZK so in 100 months it would make the money back
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> what abt the poor whales
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m-relay
<baz:monero.social> yeah.
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m-relay
<123bob123:matrix.org> Ping webmaster -t
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<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> hm?
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m-relay
<sgp:magicgrants.org> The MAGIC Grants board is hosting a live Q&A in the Monero Telegram group this Thursday at 1p ET to discuss the MAGIC Monero Fund and the upcoming election. We hope to see you there!
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m-relay
<123bob123:matrix.org> Can magic pay for the cert?
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nioCat
was that telescam or telespam
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m-relay
<123bob123:matrix.org> First one
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nioCat
I have no questions
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nioCat
you do good work
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nioCat
keep it up
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m-relay
<sgp:magicgrants.org> probably, if it comes to it
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nioCat
isn't the cert one of the few things that core is supposed to do?
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nioCat
infrastructure
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nioCat
seems that 3 of 6 core members are MIA
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m-relay
<123bob123:matrix.org> At lunch back in 10mins
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> imajin just configuring lets encrypt and CRON...
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Even my site that I abandoned but that are still online get there certs auto-updated...
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m-relay
<cpt_longdeck:matrix.org> whats going on guys
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m-relay
<cpt_longdeck:matrix.org> I'm about to try to buy some Monero. I tried once before and failed... any advice on the best easiest place to exchange for monero?
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m-relay
<baz:monero.social> That depends on your country of origin, kraken has XMR listed.
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<cpt_longdeck:matrix.org> i didnt think exchanges had monero. Im US
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<baz:monero.social> Kraken
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<baz:monero.social> Or if you feel adventures w/ no KYC bisq .network
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<cpt_longdeck:matrix.org> thank you good sir
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m-relay
<polar9669:matrix.org> Getmonero.org SSL cert has expired
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<123bob123:matrix.org> a representative will get back to you shortly. Please hold the line.
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m-relay
<123bob123:matrix.org> You are position number 1000000000000000 in the queue
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m-relay
<stnby:kernal.eu> We are Monero. Certificates are for weak.
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m-relay
<123bob123:matrix.org> Overrated
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m-relay
<123bob123:matrix.org> No tls required
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<123bob123:matrix.org> 🚀
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m-relay
<bigslim:matrix.org> Has anyone tried POSTing or spamming gpt chat bots to kick them offline?
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plowsof
#monero-offtopic bigslim
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Indeed, but all browser want it now
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remiliascarlet
The SSL certificate for the website getmonero.org has been expired.
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remiliascarlet
Expired almost 24 hours ago I see.
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> If you guys plan to let it expire, at least don't enable HSTS.... please
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> HSTS make it sure no one can connect the side (no ignore the error button)
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selsta
well at least the Tor mirror should still be online
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<9_11_01> yo can moneros supply ever go past 18.4 million
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hyc
it already did
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m-relay
<9_11_01> no its and 18.37
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m-relay
<9_11_01> does its supply go infinitely up?
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hyc
it has a perpetual tail emission. the supply is not infinite.
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sech1
It will pass 18.4 million next year
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sech1
Currently it's 18373076.8 XMR
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m-relay
<9_11_01> if it's not infinite what value will it stop then
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sech1
It won't stop. But it's not infinite.
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remiliascarlet
selsta: "well at least the Tor mirror should still be online" Yeah, no shit! I prefer the Tor mirror over the clearnet one, but most people will probably visit the clearnet mirror.
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sech1
TLDR Monero emission will be less than Bitcoin emission until 2040
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remiliascarlet
And I'm just notifying the fact the SSL certificate has expired as an active member of the community.
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m-relay
<9_11_01> so moneros fees are based on tx size right? could i self send to consolidate?
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lza_menace
binaryFate luigi1111w yall aware of broken cert? i see messages about it but no pings
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plowsof
Pingered in #monero-site earlier
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plowsof
Just waiting now
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m-relay
<9_11_01> bruh answer my question
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sech1
yes
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plowsof
lol
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binaryFate
yes aware
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plowsof
Not sure of this is still live data but has some info on tx fees
monero.how/monero-transaction-fees
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nioCat
I like that $144.51 btc tx fee
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m-relay
<localparticl.com:matrix.org> Just paid a over $100 in fees and it's been over 3 blocks so far. Eta.. Another 3. Btc pretty form of money moving atm.
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m-relay
<localparticl.com:matrix.org> Just paid a over $100 in fees and it's been over 3 blocks so far. Eta.. Another 3. Btc pretty crap form of money moving atm.
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> BTC is broken as far as "money" go
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m-relay
<9_11_01> should i move to monero rn?
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m-relay
<localparticl.com:matrix.org> Yep
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RavFX
Monero is better in all way except price. But I don't provide trade advise, you do you.
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RavFX
But given enough time, monero will win. BTC will just become more and more unusable with time
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m-relay
<9_11_01> bitcoin is currently fucking me in the ass
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m-relay
<9_11_01> also why is monero worse in price
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RavFX
That's normal bitcoin thing yeah. If I need to pay in BTC, I just pay using monero thru fixedfloat to BTC LN.
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RavFX
Monero is worst in price thanks to heavy suppression. Exchange suppress it, BTC Maxis suppress it.
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> But eventually they won't be able to suppress it anymore and it should go to M87.
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> after one or two BTC halving or something like that, when the minimum fee for BTC going to be over 10$, and average over 50$
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plowsof
Rucknium + community volunteers helped reduce time to 1st monero tx confirmation by 60 seconds not so long ago
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> BTC LN only work properly with custodial wallets.
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> While you can use it okish with Electrum, you need to maintain 3-4 well connected channels if you want the payment to work most of the time...
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m-relay
<9_11_01> and i can consolidate or try to receive to the same address to lower the tx size on monero just like btc? correct
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> And when the fee will be at 50$ average, you probably won't want to open 3-4 channels to use the network (or rebalance your existing channels)
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Monero fee is so nano that you don't have to consolidate to lower the fee.
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Plus Monero fee will go down as usage go up
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Monero has been designed to be used as money
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m-relay
<9_11_01> okay why do i hear about monero tx sizes alot? will it increase if i receive to different sub addresses
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> You hear about monero TX size a lot probably because there bigger than BTC tx size.
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> But fee is way lower. sending to subaddress make virtually no difference
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> it go bigger if you spend more than one input (say you pay something more expensive that all your individual output so it have to spend 2)
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plowsof
Related to blockchain size probably
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> but the fee still be under half a cent
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plowsof
* picture of monero blockchain size vs tripple-A install size on disk over time *
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RavFX
plowsof: Yeah, it's one of the main Maxi argument again Monero
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plowsof
Trippl-A games*
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RavFX
Collection of 4K movies/series grow faster than Monero blockchain anyway
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m-relay
<9_11_01> "it go bigger if you spend more than one input (say you pay something more expensive that all your individual output so it have to spend 2)"
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m-relay
<9_11_01> how can the size even increase? how can it be decreased? are you saying over circulated coins have higher fees?
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m-relay
<9_11_01> how can you have multiple inputs or outputs if using a new address makes no difference
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> > <RavFX> Monero is better in all way except price. But I don't provide trade advise, you do you.
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Its better in price too
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Id rather 170 for 1/18.5m
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> than
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> 40000 for 1/19.5m
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Especially when the former is better
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> "Want an $10 paper plates? or $2 china?"
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Non, i'm saying that if you don't have a big enough output for a spend, you will use 2 output (or more), that will increase the TX size. so the nano fee will increase by extra pico amount. At the end the fee is still nano
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> and the biggest the block, the lower the fee
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> so utilization increase will push the fees down
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Monero tx sizes for normal users (atm) doesnt matter much
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Its miners and merchants who have to act in special ways to save on porential costs
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Merchand will save more on monero by just using it without management (for the fee) than right now with visa and mastercard
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> 10000000%
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> And thats hard facts
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> They can just increate the price of all product by half a cent if they really want lol
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Merchant can even recoup 100+% of costs by mining their own tx
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Keeping prices flat is an INSTANT 2+% return vs visa
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Yeah, I know.
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Visa such a scam really
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Cash also has banking fees, and you litersally have to deliver the cash (fuel / delivery)
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> here many of the few place that accept plastic add a 2% tax on the total lol
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I see a lot of stores that wont accept visa
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> "No credit"
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> But the ones who do, have priced in visas fees
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> here most stores are cash only
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> except the big ones plus some
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Its not simply about savings though. For a large metchant to swap, they need.. POS DEVICES
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> They need to be handed a working and reliable, no downtime solution
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Yeah, they need proper POS devices for sure.
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Or managing it themself with can be pain if they are not already savvy in that space
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remiliascarlet
RavFX: The transaction fees along make BTC unusable IMO.
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remiliascarlet
s/along/alone
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RavFX
remiliascarlet: Yep, BTC is simply not usable as money anymore
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> thats intentional @ remilia
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RavFX
Thanks to the great hijack
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Btc even lies about mining
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> In xmr, we do privacy
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> pool mining is not a totally private matter
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Miner hashrates, pay addresses etc, are all known by the pools
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Btc pools hide this info, making maxis think btc mining is somehow not exhibitionism
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remiliascarlet
m-relay: "In xmr, we do privacy" Considering most of you use Windows, Mac, iOS, or Android, your privacy has been compromised even while on Monero to be honest.
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m-relay
<whiskey00:matrix.org> Are there any good pos systems for monero ?
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> They not only give up all the same info as xmr miners (and dont know it), but they KYC
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Not that i know of. I think we should get an existinf large company to rebrand hardware for us
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> > <remiliascarlet> m-relay: "In xmr, we do privacy" Considering most of you use Windows, Mac, iOS, or Android, your privacy has been compromised even while on Monero to be honest.
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Who??
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> most of _us_ use linux
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remiliascarlet
Then that's great.
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Even in monero-support its probably like 2% Windows users
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Windows doesnt even like monero
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Will delete your node to protect you
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remiliascarlet
I remember seeing so many Monero YouTubers who record their screen from Windows or macOS, so I think that's cringe.
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Hey were not all that guy
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> i cant afford a mac!
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Or windows!
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> :D lolol
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remiliascarlet
I don't even know how to use Windows, I've been a Linux user for life.
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m-relay
<pan6ea:matrix.org> It’s good to familiarize yourself with privacy tools knowing they won’t protect you before you go to actually implement them in your day to day
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Naaa
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> It just delete the miner :p
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> But yeah, im not talking about tin foil
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Peopke can use whatever they want
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m-relay
<pan6ea:matrix.org> Coping bc I run my wallet on mac
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remiliascarlet
"Coping bc I run my wallet on mac" *client side scanning intensifies*
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Monerod has mining code in it, so some delete it (no? Im guessing atm)
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Nop, I never got monerod deleted
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Or it's a fluke
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> But I got the TOR part of featherwallet deleted lol
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> in any case, go in AV setting and exclude whenever you put your monero stuff from it
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> > <remiliascarlet> m-relay: "In xmr, we do privacy" Considering most of you use Windows, Mac, iOS, or Android, your privacy has been compromised even while on Monero to be honest.
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> By privacy, i didnt mean extremism
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> monero is money
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remiliascarlet
Neither did I.
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Reason why windows delete is resonable. A big amount of malware use monero mining on infected computer
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m-relay
<whiskey00:matrix.org> How would we do that ?
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Gotta decide which one is good
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> And not totally cucked
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Blackberry released a tablet called the Playbook
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> A few months later, Amazon released the Kindle Fire
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> That's easily busted argument.
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Linux is the easiest OS to backdoor
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Linux is fun when ppl dont have boot or root passwords :D
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Reminds me of windows' sys admin acct
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> i'm would not be surprised that half of this year CVE where paid for backdoor, dismissed as bug because no one can prove if the intension was a backdoor or if it was just a DEV oops
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Disclaimer: i dont use linux. I'm hardwired into the net
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> 1 - look as a widely used dependeicies. Take GLIBC
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> 2 - parse publicly available list of dev from github
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> 3 - inspect code quality of each dev
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> 4 - check bank account of each dev (3 letters scammers can do that easy)
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> 5 - pay big money to a broke dev that make good code, for a little "extra bug"
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> 6 - ???
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> 7 - profit
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> To get a backdoor into windows or macos, you have to go thru the hiearchy (because you don't know what dev work on what part of the code)
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> You have to pay more money and a lot more people will be aware of the backdoor
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> 1 - contact crosoft head for backdoor implant
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> 2 - head redirect request to the supervisor for that X windows module
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> 3 - supervisor redirect request to one of the DEV
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> 4 - in case of crosoft, there is usually 2 auditor per windows section, so you probably have to pay them too so they stfu
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> 5 - then you have to tell the books about what's that extra 25M of unaccounted money..
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> real pain
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m-relay
<naphtha:kyun.host> trvthnvke
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<9_11_01> can i still use other coins if i get xmr on trezor
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> The flaw with ravs reasoning, is that you need to pay extra fir a dev to implement a backdoor in windows
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> they sign ndas and know what they are doing
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> They do it in the regular course if business, and its not hush money, its simply not relayed to lower level workers
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Blackberrt had backdoors forever, as a feature
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> BBM "encrypted messaging" had a key that was shared with governments
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Corporate structure doesnt make it more expensive to backdoor. Apple does it for free
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Because they are _told_ to
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> if were talking about getting "china" to add a backdoor to "american" windows, yes, china needs to jump through rings if fire to get some people to do the job quietly
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m-relay
<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Whereas a covery google employee can be bribed to slip holes into pr to linux, and a lot of it go unnoticed due to social engineering
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m-relay
<unofficialxo> What is the best XMR wallet for ios
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m-relay
<unofficialxo> also to follow up the best application to purchase XMR, Kraken?
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Cake Wallet / Monero.com wallet I think
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Monerujo don't have ios support right?
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> You really think only ussa want backdoor into an OS used internationally?
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m-relay
<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Of course many other actors want there backdoor into every OS they can
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> s/OS used internationally/Most used Desktop OS of the world/g
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Nope! :D
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<unofficialxo> I don not plan on using XMR for nefarious activity. I would just like to invest. I see the potential in the coin
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> It's why I usually say that all OS sucks.
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> They all have state mandated backdoor in them
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> and some Linux distrib are worst too
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> For example default Ubuntu install is less secure than Windows default install
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Mark shuttleworth "we have root already... you already trust us"
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Yep
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Root acct totally unprotected
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Linux more secure is a myth, it is only more secure if the user managing it have a brain and deal with it properly
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> That one was funny thu :
nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2023-33376
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<unofficialxo> can you use cake wallet through chromeos
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> firewalld too
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Doubt it
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Just exploit Linux firewall
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> literally
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<ranger_emdin:matrix.org> where is the monero white paper? can u link please
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there is no monero whitepaper. there is a cryptonote whitepaper but a lot of it is out of date for monero
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We have some stuff here
getmonero.org/library
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<9_11_01> yo can i still use other coins if i get xmr on trezor
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yes
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infact, you wont even see that you 'have xmr' on your trezor
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there is no app to install, you just plug it in when your monero wallet asks you to insert your hardware wallet
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<9_11_01> when i switch to universal firmware will it ask for a seed again
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Reason why it keeps getting developed lol
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Also ofrn likes back doors
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Hand up ass!
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Hahaha. 100
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<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> hey guys look at this cool new cryptocurrency which website just pop up:
getmonero.org might be revolutionary
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Only use port 80
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Thnx
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<unofficialxo> Can you transfer XMR to a wallet address through kraken? Or exchange xmr into bitcoin then bitcoin to address?
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<sgp:magicgrants.org> Yes, you can withdraw XMR from Kraken in most countries
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<9_11_01> yo on trezor when i switch to universal firmware will it ask for a seed again
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Never encountered those words myself
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You've written your trezor seed down so it should be ok
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<erembax:matrix.org> When I sign a message with an address, the message and the signature is separate. With GPG it is like one blob of text if you know what I mean. Would it be an idea to have a standard for signing with an address where the output is also structured as one blob of text?
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<snowman:tetaneutral.net> What is best option of these? Trezor, Old Pixel running Graphene, Old laptop running a Linux distro and Feather or Monero Seed Signer when that is out in 5 years
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<snowman:tetaneutral.net> Or Pen and Paper
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Trezor and Monero Signer is hardware "cold wallet"
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Other stuff are connected on internet.
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> I would go for the monero signer or Trezor
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> But I think it's possible to make Monero seed signer right now, right?
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Or it was something else...
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plowsof: I wrote down my seed. Do you know where I put it?
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social>
seedsigner.com
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Yep, just make your own, no need to wait 5 years
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<snowman:tetaneutral.net> I'm not sure, but I think i'd rather wait until it's more widely adopted
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<70726f746f67656e> out of curiosity, what is a seed signer?
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<snowman:tetaneutral.net> Is TAILSOS on an offline computer be a good option
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> It's safe as long as you ... keep the backup of your seed somewhere safe
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<snowman:tetaneutral.net> Can this be used for Monero, or is it just a dumb way to store your seed?
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<snowman:tetaneutral.net> It can't be used with any Monero wallets, right?
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<snowman:tetaneutral.net> I think there is someone making a Monero-specific version of seed signer that could be used with a Monero wallet
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> I think you can use it with last version of feather wallet
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Wait, maybe it's only for bitcorn... fsck
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> The Orangeness of the device got me
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<9_11_01> my seed is in my dads safe
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<9_11_01> it'll be akward asking him for the seed
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> We need to petition Seedsigner guys to replace there Monero Orange for some kind of Yellow / Gold for there devices
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Lets have a working + maintained firmware first
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The dev behind moneroSeedSigner firmware is also currently helping/performing a forensic investigation into the hacked ccs wallet/machine
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Plowsof: Ah yeah, we need a complete report on that one.
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<123bob123:matrix.org> We are outside space and time here
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<erembax:matrix.org> Is there a monero equivalent of the BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE format
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<erembax:matrix.org> -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- to-be-signed -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE----- 1MDhJdtwjtGGbz3vQipUwtgjn5JPT2gWcT H9JPn0tbPfDVRVC48YnAOwbYKTCFQ5hvimrBAPyRtuzjPxM+hbDCGk+CvtTt/BJrJZkgJi9/UAKyrnbyi0kBsM4= -----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
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<erembax:matrix.org> I believe that is the RFC2440 format also used by GPG?
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Hello. I'm having an issue updating my local blockchain data. I ran monerod and I'm stuck on this error: 2023-12-19 23:05:35.456 I Loading blockchain from folder /media/monero/lmdb ...
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2023-12-19 23:05:35.476 W The blockchain is on a rotating drive: this will be very slow, use an SSD if possible
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2023-12-19 23:06:22.399 E Failed to parse block from blob
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2023-12-19 23:06:22.402 I Stopping cryptonote protocol...
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2023-12-19 23:06:22.402 I Cryptonote protocol stopped successfully
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2023-12-19 23:06:22.402 E Exception in main! Failed to parse block from blob retrieved from the db
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I just check bitmonero.log for more details, came across this:
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^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@
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^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@2023-12-19 22:56:45.876 7fae02e067c0 INFO logging contrib/epee/src/mlog.cpp:273 New log categories: *:WARNING,net:FATAL,net.http:FATAL,net.ssl:FATAL,net.p2p:FATAL,net.cn:FATAL,daemon.rpc:FATAL,global:INFO,verify:FATAL,serialization:FATAL,daemon.rpc.payment:ERROR,stacktrace:INFO,logging:INFO,msgwriter:INFO
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2023-12-19 22:56:45.916 7fae02e067c0 INFO logging contrib/epee/src/mlog.cpp:273 New log categories: *:WARNING,net:FATAL,net.http:FATAL,net.ssl:FATAL,net.p2p:FATAL,net.cn:FATAL,daemon.rpc:FATAL,global:INFO,verify:FATAL,serialization:FATAL,daemon.rpc.payment:ERROR,stacktrace:INFO,logging:INFO,msgwriter:INFO
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Any insight to resolve this?
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Let me know if you need any kind of info
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Paste.debian.net
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Pwease
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> start node with
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> `--log-level 1`
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> And is this the release binary?
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I downloaded monero-gui-linux-x64-v0.18.3.1.tar.bz2 from the official website
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> ./monerod --log-level 1
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Post output on paste.debian.net
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