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<randomxplorer:matrix.org> Nice beat. Awesome!
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<spackle_xmr:matrix.org> RandomXplorer: There have been no fee changes at all, increase or otherwise.
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<spackle_xmr:matrix.org> You are seeing the median fee being paid. When there was a flood of minimum fee transactions, the median fee was roughly the minimum.
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<spackle_xmr:matrix.org> Now that the minimum fee flood is over, you are seeing the median fee for normal use. There is no longer a giant number of minimum fee transactions lowering the median fee.
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<spackle_xmr:matrix.org> The dynamic fee algorithm works off the long term median. Monero would need to see blocks larger than 300 kB for more than two months before the fee would adjust.
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<spackle_xmr:matrix.org> *two months continuously
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<randomxplorer:matrix.org> Many thanks for the explanation!
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<rustocean:monero.social> Where is the most active place to discuss Monero?
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<rustocean:monero.social> All I found is X and this IRC but the activity here is less than the discussions that happen on X
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nioCat
There are several monero rooms here
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nioCat
And there are currently issues with very delayed messages between matrix.org and both monero.social and IRC
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pcre: "All OS will deny installation of Monero at some point." Correction: all OS's you shouldn't be using anyway will deny installation of Monero at some point. Which better corresponds to the list you gave right after that.
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remiliascarlet
And no need to learn Linux, simply install a Linux distro or BSD OS, use it full time for everything without looking back, and you'll instinctively start going deeper down the rabbit hole that makes you learn how things work naturally.
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nioCat: I had only heard and looked into the message delay for monero.social matrix messages to show up for matrix.org users. I didn't know its happening for IRC, I will get details from datahoarder
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pigeons
Ah I think that bridge is via a monero.social account to the same issue would affect the messages appearing on the matrix.org side.
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^ yep
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checking from monero.social account as well shows the messages, so it seems to be issues on matrix federation itself
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pigeons
OK just got word its matrix.org's cloudflare WAF doing this to other servers as well, getting info on how to get whitelisted.
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One question about xmrig: does it make any difference if I add `-a randomx` to the parameters?
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<aremor:matrix.org> Alex | LocalMonero | AgoraDesk: how about LM adds some kind of penalty for not completing trades. It really kills the site in many locales. In some places, makers flood the boards with all of their own clone account posts and constantly extort takers in the trade chat to pay more than was advertised. In many countries LM is completely unusable because of these scammers.
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why are humans such pieces of trash
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<aremor:matrix.org> Alex | LocalMonero | AgoraDesk: the UX / disincentives need some serious work.
reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1bnv201/finding_serious_offers
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remiliascarlet
"why are humans such pieces of trash" Decades of brainwashing, manipulation, demoralization, and fear mongering.
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remiliascarlet: humans have been trash from the beginning
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Decades? Millenia, I tell you, millenia
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<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> > Mar 29 10:24:49 mracek monerod[1759644]: Unrecognized option 'prune_blockchain' in config file.
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<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> wtf is the configuration option for monerod to do pruned blockhain
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<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> wtf is the configuration option for monerod to do pruned blockchain
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<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> ```
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<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> ...
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<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> prune_blockchain=1
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<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> ...
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<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> ```
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<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> I have this set
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<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> prune-blockchain apparently
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<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> yay
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<erembax:matrix.org> Do we have something equivalent to:
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<erembax:matrix.org> There are a lot of options and not a lot of up to date information on how to configure monerod.
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Soon™️ offical docs
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<sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org> link to cake release gives 404, remove "v" in front of the version number:
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<erembax:matrix.org> Thanks, is this up to date?
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Commands havent changed
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<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> pruned blockchain has around 40 GB now?
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<alex:agoradesk.com> Oops. Thanks.
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<alex:agoradesk.com> Thanks for the criticism. Could you PM me, please?
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> What I was thinking is more like a "alive" timer
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Like you initiate a trade with someone
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> That someone have like 10 minutes to confirm he is alive, then the normal 60-90 minutes timer start once he confirmed, if he did not confirm then the contract is canceled.
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Maybe have a possibility to have it with many peers, like you could choose many trader for one contract and the first one who confirm aliveness get the contract
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> That would be great for platform like LM, most time lost is indeed waiting for that 60-90 minutes timer to go to zero Alex | LocalMonero | AgoraDesk
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<erembax:matrix.org> Is there a monero simplex chat?
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<aremor:matrix.org> Why?
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nioCat
I have heard of one, not sure of the status
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<erembax:matrix.org> I heard kayabaNerve mention it in a podcast
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> I don't believe I've ever mentioned SimpleX
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<aremor:matrix.org> Hi K! When do you think FCMP will be out?
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nioCat
soon™
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> He use to have one some people propagated a while ago but it was really low volume afaik
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> With or after Seraphis.
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> (I'm not commenting a date yet the fact it's at best bottlenecked by Seraphis should still give you an impression)
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<kayabanerve:matrix.org> ... hm. I have an idea there.
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nioCat
a proposal to look at Seraphis by sarang is currently being drawn up
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plowsof
Huge thanks to jberman for pushing the seraphis scope of work(s) forward
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nioCat
a review of the paper
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plowsof
Seraphis papers are incomplete also
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nioCat
kayaba has an idea :)
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<dufebo98:monero.social> Can GUI wallet be used on Tails OS?
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<basses:matrix.org> Are DEXs (for fiat) and atomic swaps (for crypto-to-crypto) the future to prevent freeze/seizure of funds by exchanges?
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<basses:matrix.org> and ofc they should also require no KYC
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<erembax:matrix.org> Must have misheard then.
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<rails11326206827:matrix.org> 900hulObg%3D%3D%22%7D
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<basses:matrix.org> use feather
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<basses:matrix.org> but yes, you can
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<lakshmana:matrix.org> Just typing tails os probably gets you on a list
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<lakshmana:matrix.org> lmao
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Hello
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<basses:matrix.org> Tails os
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<mmxxx:matrix.org> tails os
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<mmxxx:matrix.org> say it three times like candyman...
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> XZ > 5.4.6 has been backdoored by upstream commiter. RCE in sshd has been confirmed. There are still much to investigate. If you are on debian or opensuse. Try to downgrade immediately. Stay tune for your distro update anyway as no one know what other shit could be in this payload:
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> A CVE has been opened:
opencve.io/cve/CVE-2024-3094
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<palmstrike:matrix.org> Hello everyone, I got here from the main XMR website community links. Just looking for more info on Monero. Coming back to it after being away for a while. Any suggestions I'm all ears
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Debian stable have 5.4.1 SyntheticBird
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> I don't know for ubuntu, not using that
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> but debian is know to be laggy
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> for updates
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> As usually, one of the guy got paid a bunch of XMR in exchange of applying a .patch
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> who know how much of these don't get noticed
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> when it's done by one of the main dev... 😂
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<simplemachines:xmr.se> link?
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> That specific screen came from Kyun chat, naphtha (Telegram) posted it
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we're all vulnerable, there are backdoors everywhere
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<simplemachines:xmr.se> in every human there is a back door too
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<simplemachines:xmr.se> gotta protect it at all cost
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BlueyHealer
I wish these backdoors were more patchable. Humans are far too hackable.
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great_taste
booby trap it
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<gfdshygti53:monero.social> Insert butt plug, then backdoor will be patched again unauthorized intrusions
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> don't forget about knee socks! They protect from unwanted bruteforce
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<123bob123:matrix.org> Backdoor bandit
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remiliascarlet
great_taste: "we're all vulnerable, there are backdoors everywhere" I'm not, because FreeBSD.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> so. Are you happy being exluded from 99% of the software ecosystem ?
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> de nada!
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<simplemachines:xmr.se> it sucks, freebsd sucks
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remiliascarlet
"so. Are you happy being exluded from 99% of the software ecosystem ?" Like if I care that poorly written bloatware isn't available.
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remiliascarlet
"it sucks, freebsd sucks" Cope...
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remiliascarlet
"Here for FreeBSD users:
cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2024-29937" At least 1 intelligent comment.
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> All operating system sucks.
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Linux get a pass for **servers** use cases even if it get more CVE than windows
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remiliascarlet
Time to write a new OS from scratch then!
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<crispycat:matrix.calitabby.com> just because a vulnerability doesn't have a cve doesn't mean it's not there... and windows probably has thousands lurking about
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remiliascarlet
I was about to say the same.
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<crispycat:matrix.calitabby.com> sure linux sucks, but at least it actually does what you want and nothing else (most of the time)
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> so much easier to bribe poor linux dev (can even provide patch and contact optimal dev because everything available on git)
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remiliascarlet
Probably Linux has more CVE's simply because the source code is publicly readable, so anyone can find any exploit.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> just assume you're paranoid about microsoft instead of stating security opinions you don't have
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> That would be Linux on servers mostly
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<crispycat:matrix.calitabby.com> yeah, this too, security through obscurity is a myth
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> But bribing random dev is harder when you don't have the source and informations about the devs
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Assume Windows is backdoored by microsoft and probably NSA
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Assume that Linux is backdoored by every single intelligence agency from more countries
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> But bribing random dev is harder when you don't have the source and informations about the devs
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Assume Windows is backdoored by microsoft and probably NSA
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Assume that Linux is backdoored by every single intelligence agency from most countries
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> hence, assume your OS is compromised, whatever it is
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<simplemachines:xmr.se> "probably"
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<simplemachines:xmr.se> no need to backdoor linux, they already have the minix it runs on
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<simplemachines:xmr.se> every intel computer
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<crispycat:matrix.calitabby.com> well there are some hacks to disable it, but yeah ime hella sus
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remiliascarlet
Or do what Microsoft, Cloudflare, Google, and Facebook have been doing with the Linux kernel already: bribe the Linux Torvalds to influence the direction of the kernel.
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<crispycat:matrix.calitabby.com> the probability is lower though, and security isn't the only issue with corporate dumpster fire os's
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Assume that more than half of the CVE on Linux are backdoor paid for by people with money.
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Of course it get obfuscated as a bug ... usually...
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> don't have to bribe linus for a backdoor, you have access to the whole collection of DEV emails and you can see what do what so you can properly select. Do some intel and offer the dev a life changing amount of XMR
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<ravfx:xmr.mx> Monero get better audits than most of the stuff that endup packaged into "insert a distribution name here"
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<simplemachines:xmr.se> This is why I keep saying that the only trusted cryptography tech is bitcoin and monero.
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<simplemachines:xmr.se> If you want to send a message that you must be sure nobody else can read, use an offline wallet
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<simplemachines:xmr.se> and send your message as a transaction
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> this guy just invented diffie-hellman based communication with extra steps