86G sounds like cellular phone service in the year 2156.

I think the blockchain.raw file is outdated... it should be removed at this point

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Didnt plowsof do a pr for it?

<n​ope:matrix.teamsds.net> Hey guys whats up

<n​ope:matrix.teamsds.net> I am a cyber security enthusiast and tech scam hunter

<n​ope:matrix.teamsds.net> If there is anything I can do for monero please lmk

<n​ope:matrix.teamsds.net> Im a bit out of daye

<n​ope:matrix.teamsds.net> pacman -Syu

<n​ope:matrix.teamsds.net> Im a bit out of date

you could donate to the project! :]

<d​otnetspec:matrix.org> Hi,

<d​otnetspec:matrix.org> I'm trying to get myself registered on repo.getmonero.org so that I can submit a proposal for the CCS, but have a problem I explained to Gitlab support:

<d​otnetspec:matrix.org> I'm trying to register for repo.getmonero.org/monero-project which requires an Enterprise Edition signup.

<d​otnetspec:matrix.org> I've input the details and my current, valid, working email address:

<d​otnetspec:matrix.org> <email address>

<d​otnetspec:matrix.org> and completed the captcha.

<d​otnetspec:matrix.org> I'm taken to:

<d​otnetspec:matrix.org> repo.getmonero.org/users/almost_there

<d​otnetspec:matrix.org> and do not receive an email. Emails from other entities are being delivered to the same address (there is nothing wrong with the email, network etc.)

<d​otnetspec:matrix.org> I retried twice with 'request new confirmation email. ', and tried in latest Firefox and Edge browsers, but it made no difference

<d​otnetspec:matrix.org> How can I register for an enterprise edition account and access and make contributions in repo.getmonero.org?

<m​oneronaire:matrix.org> Haveno is alive and working so jump on github.com/retoaccess1/haveno-reto/actions/runs/9104271256

<m​oneronaire:matrix.org> Guide:

<m​oneronaire:matrix.org> blog.nihilism.network/servers/haveno-client-f2f/index.html

Are there any attempts of building trust into all of this? Making sure it will be hard to offer doctored Haveno variants with backdoors for download?

Are there checksums published for those ZIP files? Any signatures available?

<e​lias:dfri.se> Hello everyone! I just wrote this paper, looking for feedback on it: "Ticket-based multi-strand method for increased efficiency in proof-of-work based blockchains": arxiv.org/abs/2405.09531 -- what do you think?

Of course I see the current need for people to be anon, and stay anon, but you could at least show convincingly that the same anon that published this announcement also published that binary, right?

Alright, I saw that all the "reto" haveno commits are signed / verified, and the download is directly from a GitHub build run, so that looks like it's reasonably save

rbrunner: "Making sure it will be hard to offer doctored Haveno variants with backdoors for download?" I don't think that's going to be possible. Can only be prevented if the libraries are all home-made, source code is minimal (or at least small enough to remain auditable), and not accept any outside contributions to the code whatsoever, on which Haveno fails on all 3 of these points.

Perhaps the only acception to "home-made libraries" would be libc, unless you're willing to make your own.

That's the 100% percent fallacy, or how you want to call that. I don't talk about 100% making sure. I talk that so far I saw exactly *ZERO* hints to be careful and attentive what you download and run.

People just wildly publish things, and other people just wildly download and run. Don't you see possible problems with that wild-west situation?

I know. The people downloading and running part can be put under "individual responsibility", but developers publishing vulnerable code is a whole different story.

Such simple things as protecting against people putting up "GitHab" pages with doctored downloads, by providing checksums.

Like, I might be evil if I were to develop a ransomware, but it's ultimately the people just downloading and running being stupid enough to do so.

I know, I know, most people won't check the checksums, but you could at least show responsible behaviour as the publisher$

What if my ransomware had the correct checksums?

Serious question? How do you fake checksums? You don't because you can.t

True, you can't fake checksums, but you can still trick people into believing it's all safe.

Just look at what happened to xz recently.

Correct checksums, but still contained a backdoor.

I am rambling here because in that Haveno story so far I never saw even a single "Please be careful" statement.

The intentions of the owner of the project wasn't malicious though.

We solidly talk past each other. You talk about special cases and sofisticated bad actors. I talk about the most primitive things of starting to rise awareness.

I never add such statement in any of my programs either, unless I make something for a "wider audience", because the "wider audience" tends to be retarded.

But niche audiences tend to be naturally a lot more careful.

<c​trej:matrix.org> elias: you should also post in here: Monero Research Lounge

<b​asses:matrix.org> had same issue, plowsof cleared it up

<d​otnetspec:matrix.org> @rando, thanks

<d​otnetspec:matrix.org> @plowsof:matrix.org

<d​otnetspec:matrix.org> please let me know how you cleared this up for @rando ... thanks ...

<b​asses:matrix.org> Aren't they built with GH actions? possible attack vectors github.com/step-security/github-act…goat/tree/main/docs/Vulnerabilities

<b​asses:matrix.org> also submitting maclious PRs that trigger CI builds nathandavison.com/blog/github-actio…e-threat-of-malicious-pull-requests

<e​lias:dfri.se> ceetee🇧🇪 thanks, now I posted it in monero-research-lounge also

<b​asses:matrix.org> that's a different thing

<b​asses:matrix.org> backdoor is supposed to be stealthy into the code

<b​asses:matrix.org> me and SyntheticBird doubted it

<b​asses:matrix.org> never said it is, but everyone should take a precaution

You know, putting in a "backdoor" into something like Haveno is a few lines of code: Every tenth payment goes to me, not the true receiver. People will put it on Haveno not yet properly working now for quite a long time.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Are we talking about en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underhanded_C_Contest ?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> because it's the same for Java

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I've downloaded it because I checked all the reto commits prior to the build

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> But in the near future it'll weird for reto to change anything except their keys

<b​asses:matrix.org> arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/05…eist-took-about-12-seconds-doj-says

<f​:monero.social> Original story? web3isgoinggreat.com/?id=over-25-mi…m-an-mev-bot-by-malicious-validator

<f​:monero.social> I don't know an anying about MEV's, but their bugs seem to be a source of income for many since PoS-ETH?

So this whole Web3 scam/buzzword is still not dead yet?

Also, today I learned that Arizona depends on Cloudflare, so if you want to overthrow a government along with a huge chunk of the internet, you know who to target.

<f​:monero.social> plowsof: Are all three sn plowsof..onions currently mentioned at monero.fail/?chain=monero&network=stagenet&onion=on provided by you?

f should i seek legal representation before answering that question?

<f​:monero.social> Hehe I don't know. I added them to my code for node selection.

Dotnetspec what is the username under?

RussianEscorts or EthereumMixer?

<z​ia_tim:matrix.org> Hi fellow XMR users, here is my (simple) contribution to the community: timappziaaomrpyiivzijuat4obusumxoipcrw5rinugcfq4bffuenad.onion

<z​ia_tim:matrix.org> It is still beta version, do not hesitate to test, find bugs and errors, and report them to me

<z​ia_tim:matrix.org> Cheers!

<z​ia_tim:matrix.org> zia

<z​ia_tim:matrix.org> timappziaaomrpyiivzijuat4obusumxoipcrw5rinugcfq4bffuenad.onion?canary

<a​remor:matrix.org> A random link with no idea what it contains. Oh yayyy

<z​ia_tim:matrix.org> It is an alternative to LocalMonero I try to build

<n​ope:matrix.teamsds.net> I can confirm he is a rando. guy on the internet, why not trust his random onion link?

<n​ope:matrix.teamsds.net> > <@aremor:matrix.org> A random link with no idea what it contains. Oh yayyy

<n​ope:matrix.teamsds.net> I can confirm he is a random guy on the internet, why not trust his random onion link?

<z​ia_tim:matrix.org> Do not trust, just test

<n​ope:matrix.teamsds.net> I'm just busting you chops buddy 😂

zia_tim: Only an AI could solve your captcha there, mere mortals have no chance. Seriously. At least over a button to get a new one.

Oh, f*ck, they are on Matrix.org ...

lol

imagine centralizing a federated protocol btw

If federation would still work properly after all those firewalls and filters are put in place, that would be a thing

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Tim - Trade In Monero. Seems to be a .onion-only LocalMonero alternative.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> zia (tim): PM.

<p​epe86frog:matrix.org> Trading or buying you mean_

<p​epe86frog:matrix.org> You mean trading or buying/selling? For trading in an onion site I've worked with majestic bank, they have tradeogre style trading .

<m​kmk1996:matrix.org> Where can i get onion store?

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> It is what the acronym stands for as per their own website. TIM - Trade In Monero.

<p​epe86frog:matrix.org> gotcha

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> very interesting read nioCat. thx for sharing

<m​kmk1996:matrix.org> ?

credit to dam bob

whoops

dan bob

<p​epe86frog:matrix.org> what do you mean onion store?

<p​epe86frog:matrix.org> You can get onions at a grocery store, but I doubt that's what you mean

<m​kmk1996:matrix.org> Lol amazon

<m​kmk1996:matrix.org> But with lights closed

<p​epe86frog:matrix.org> monezon is what you're lookin for mate

<m​kmk1996:matrix.org> Monzone ?

<m​kmk1996:matrix.org> LinkM

<m​kmk1996:matrix.org> ?

<p​epe86frog:matrix.org> they're listed in monerica, let me check the link for you, one sec.

<m​kmk1996:matrix.org> Thankss

<p​epe86frog:matrix.org> monezon.com

<m​kmk1996:matrix.org> Dark web store bro

<m​kmk1996:matrix.org> Not literally amazon 🤣

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/kfKNXiWMcyemKnbhoqtwlwmE

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Matrix in a nutshell

<o​cean:matrix.thisisjoes.site> never had that issue 🤔

IRC FTW

<r​ootkit.lol:matrix.org> does anyone know email hosts that you can pay with xmr?

<p​reland:matrix.org> Mullvad I think

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Mullvad is a VPN, not an email host...

<e​dge7:matrix.org> digitalgoods.proxysto.re/en

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> r/Monero is so dead, its annoying

NOOOO

<p​cre:monero.social> is it really?

<p​cre:monero.social> oh reddit - ok

<p​cre:monero.social> We should push nostr anyway.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Isn't nostr invaded by bitcoinist?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> or is it just Primal?

Is monero actully dead?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> first result of "Nostr" is a forbes article talkinb about Jack Dorsey lmao

<p​cre:monero.social> Monero is strong on nostr.

actually*

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Do you have account to share?

<p​cre:monero.social> sure

<p​aranoia_machinery:monero.social> nostr is pretty much mostly bitcoin but there are lots of monero people as well and several monero paid nostr relays

<p​cre:monero.social> npub14a6q6xvt4wuv0wpdpfr336e4fweldtu6np3ehpw55h83xuw2h2zsgyz6rn

<p​cre:monero.social> This guy is pretty based

<p​cre:monero.social> Saberhagen The Nameless

<p​aranoia_machinery:monero.social> here's how to setup a nerostr (monero) nostr relay and links to existing instances:

<n​ihilist:m.datura.network> i'll need to setup a nostr instance too

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> its so good

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> no

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> its alive

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and kicking

<p​cre:monero.social> Also check out Li₿ΞʁLiøη 🏴a³ npub1wpzpvzfkn4m754fasp0wnt6ck20ycww4kz9nj4n5rquu9ul7a0xq4hzs7p

<p​cre:monero.social> Not always 100% Monero content

<p​cre:monero.social> Is FluffyPony on Nostr?

s​yntheticbird you can ignore anything that forbes publishes

and by anything I mean everything

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I get this is a bad news site but it shows that fiatjaf is synonymous with nostr

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and I don't see myself pushing monero as having a future on an hostile platform

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Free pentesting

<b​asses:matrix.org> lol nice new quote

<b​asses:matrix.org> dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3589335.3651487

<b​asses:matrix.org> >Deanonymizing Transactions Originating from Monero Tor Hidden Service Nodes

<b​asses:matrix.org> direct pdf link: dl.acm.org/doi/pdf/10.1145/3589335.3651487

<v​enture4487:matrix.org> interesting. is --pad-transactions somewhat helping here?

<v​enture4487:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/grfAMUxOnWcvyHLuFtBOYjxj

<b​asses:matrix.org> yewtu.be/watch?v=LrOxBCpeCgU has been almost a month

<n​eko-the-gamer:kitsunes.club> hey yall

<n​eko-the-gamer:kitsunes.club> i love monero

<n​eko-the-gamer:kitsunes.club> am mining some right noe

<n​eko-the-gamer:kitsunes.club> am mining some right now

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> hey, are you on kitsune.club official matrix instance ?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> didn't know they had one

<n​ope:matrix.teamsds.net> Anyone want to donate xmr to help fund the battle against scammers. I am the owner of scammer.info we hunt scammers every day

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> how much H/s and profit

<n​eko-the-gamer:kitsunes.club> 663.33 H/s and uhhhh profitability idk

<n​eko-the-gamer:kitsunes.club> yeah they do

<n​eko-the-gamer:kitsunes.club> yeah they have a matrix instance too

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> likely none, thanks for doing that for monero-chan <3

<n​eko-the-gamer:kitsunes.club> > literally none

<n​eko-the-gamer:kitsunes.club> well actually you're not correct this is my current situation

<n​eko-the-gamer:kitsunes.club> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…sunes.club/VJNRTPazutGqtxXrqfHhkbDC

<n​eko-the-gamer:kitsunes.club> i still have a long way to go to my pool's minimum payout of 0.07 XMR

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> electrical and hardware costs

<n​eko-the-gamer:kitsunes.club> no idea

<n​eko-the-gamer:kitsunes.club> probably not that much

<n​eko-the-gamer:kitsunes.club> the laptop i use to mine on consumes 45W

<n​eko-the-gamer:kitsunes.club> the laptop i use to mine consumes 45W

<n​ope:matrix.teamsds.net> I'm curious as well

<n​eko-the-gamer:kitsunes.club> matrix.to/#/!eBgZCVRnRRkKchiYzS:mon…ub&via=matrix.org&via=monero.social

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> 0.2847 per KWh is the average cost of electricity in the EU based on ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-ex…?title=Electricity_price_statistics

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> 0.2847/10 = 0.02847 EUR per Watt

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> 45W costs 1.28115 EUR per unit time

<n​ope:matrix.teamsds.net> Nice!