<m​onero_e:matrix.org> C) :(

<m​onero_e:matrix.org> D) :'(

<m​onero_e:matrix.org> E) :'''"""(

<m​onero_e:matrix.org> Lost my wownero and tari and some xmr

<m​onero_e:matrix.org> Still hope

<m​onero_e:matrix.org> Start cope

<m​onero_e:matrix.org> This exchange is 200 years old

<m​onero_e:matrix.org> why me fuck

<e​longated:matrix.org> Not your keys not your coins

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Lost some Raven dust, nothing really important

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I don't leave important shit in exchange

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I kept all of my dero there

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> maybe next time you'll use basicswap (for wow)

Hello, I am trying to sync a monero node, but it seems it will take 30 days. I went from 41% to 43% in 12 hours. My internet has 700 Mb/s down, but sync_info in monerod shows 563 Kb/s. What gives?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> are you using am ssd or hdd?

ssd

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Must be hdd

I have no hdds plugged in

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 563k/s = it doesnt download too far ahead. It stops downloading until you start to catch up

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Paste your sync_info output onto a paste website like www.zerobin.net or paste.debian.net

my ssd is rated for 1050 Mb/s

ok

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> specifically looking for the mooooo line

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And the line above the mooo line that says # of spans and size

226 spans, 478.359 MiB

Do you want the rest of the info?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The moo line

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Dont need the ips

Is what I gave not the moo line?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i need the line under what you sent

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> the actual mooo

[moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.o...]

This ?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yes, ty

wait do the number of o's actually signify something

I thought it was a divider lol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> This shows that spans on blocks are downloaded and ready to sync

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> So the slow sync is likely due to some IO or cpu issue, likely the former

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Is your drive running out of space? Are you on windows and using an version if monero earlier than 0.18.4.0?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> A version of monero*

I'm running a T7 1TB over usbc thunderbolt, i've run monerod with a data-dir flag set to /mount/path/.bitmonero

The 1TB is basically unused, 67G including 42G of the data.mdb file

version is 18.4.0-release

i'm on linux

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> what is the filesystem type? Are you able to try a different usb connection (like usb-a 3.x)?

exfat, i could try a different connection. do you recommend doing that?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I havent tried, but i assume an external ssd should still be plenty fast.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> some filesystem types dont play nice though

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Since its mostly unused, id probably partition some of the drive ad ext4 or xfs etc, and try that

hmm, i could try that, is there documentation of bad file systems?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> not up-to-date, i think the closest is some older tests for lmdb

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> iirc, journaling filesystems were best. ext2 ext4 etc.

would you expect such a drastic difference between exfat and ext4?

m at start means 'matching': it matches the next set of blocks that we need to ad to the chain (ie, it's right after the current tip.

o means we hae that set of blocks downloaded and ready to be checked when the CPU wants it

. means the set was requested from a peer, and is being downloaded.

Other characters are rarer and can indicate unexpected cases.

So a line starting with mooo is great, you won't be starved of data.

The more uninterrupted o in the line, the more the CPU can churn at stuff without having to wait for input.

i'll try it, but if it ends up being only marginally better, I might as well just use a remote node...

Damn, this food is just to difficult to chew. I'll get someone else's mouth to do it for me then slurp the result.

But, Ms Cow, aren't you afraid of evil chewers who might spy on your feeding habits, and the general grossinitude of it ? Why, no, everybody does it so it must be safe, right ?

<p​laiwanone:matrix.org> gd

lol

if i have a need to make an xmr transaction soon (hypothetically of course), then maybe i need a blender to chew my food 30 times faster than I can...

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> "<i​n2itive> would you expect such a drastic difference between exfat and ext4?"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ive obly uaed exfat on usb drives and it was horrible

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i wouldn't personally use exfat for anything aside from android (android requires it)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I cant say what to expect, aside from ssd should be fast, and usb3+ or usb-c should be fast, and you dont have an issue downloading blocks. I can only suspect that the problem may be exfat

<a​lexandre:uii.pt> Hey, i was wondering, does the monero network have any protection against a simple 18080 port block?

Yes, it can use any other port.

Now if all the ports are blocked, it'd be a bit unsure what to do.

<a​lexandre:uii.pt> yeah, but how does the connection with the rest of the network work (from the node to the network, not node to client)? does it use random ports?

It works... the same ? It will use whatever port you tell it to, 18080 is just the default.

(except privilege ports under 1024 unless you're root which you should not)

<a​lexandre:uii.pt> guess i'm just missing how the p2p network (like initial discovery and so on), up to searching more i go

<k​ufecure:xmr.se> qubic planed to dominate 51% of Monero’s hashrate?

initial discovery is done by connecting to a set of known nodes, from which you get lists of other current nodes.

Those known nodes are specified in the source. You can make that part unneeded by specifying at least one other reachale node instead on the command line.

<a​lexandre:uii.pt> got it, so it bootstraps from there, I guess if eventually govts decide to block those nodes we could still connect through tor (assuming that doesn't get blocked as well somehow)

by default where does monero cli stores .shared-ringdb ?

I had it set to a local user dir via extra flag - works. otherwise it complains that it can not create it

where it want to create it lol

in $HOME

Because it's meant to be shared with chain forks too.

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> change.org/p/make-steam-accept-monero-xmr well uhh crazy idea but ok

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/ojnPVrefVoYgJjPHPlyrNStk

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> ooooooof course ._.

<s​bt:nope.chat> Dumbass zcash shill. Valve would never support crypto, instead someone should make a whole different game store.

<s​bt:nope.chat> It's likely to have much larger initial success, given the "censorship" from payment processors is a hot topic right now.

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> "even using the latest android wallets!"

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> "is a pain and takes forever"

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> select the fastest node in cakewallet and itll sync in 3 seconds

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> I mean it IS slow if it's an old wallet you haven't touched in a long time, but it's funny to me they seem to think android wallet is the gold standard somehow

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And zcash is fast?

<e​ddie:oblak.be> Lol and Zcash isn't private by default.

<e​ddie:oblak.be> even if zcash privacy set is 1/4 billion, the feds only have to guess between you and that other zcash user, because that's the amount of users it has 😂

tradeogre still down :/

<s​bt:nope.chat> Use tracador.

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> I guess you could say that.....it's ogre

he haz coins on ogre

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Had*

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> :D

<s​bt:nope.chat> Why would you keep coins on an exchange?

To trade

I've seen comments sending coins to DNMs right from exchanges. They don't want to wait until transaction completion and wallet sync, but apparently fine with waiting the jail sentence :/

<s​bt:nope.chat> Get rekt. Well deserved lesson.

<s​bt:nope.chat> DNM users are the dumbest of all. Tainting monero as well as Tor with their mediocre use of buying recreational substances. Fucking losers.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> lots of ppl do that. Even get some issues on github about missing funds

<s​bt:nope.chat> I have seen some of the posts on Dread. Majority are clueless.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Drug addicts arent the smartest

<s​bt:nope.chat> Couldn't agree more. Never trust an addict.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I only trust my dealer

I have +- 1000 USD in tradeogre, I was trading XMR-BTC pair

I hope the website back

<t​esttank:matrix.org> Sarai cant come soon enough, any guess on when it will be released, 1 year, 2 years?

I do also but from past experience I have little hope

serai? check their discord :D

I can't do that

<h​bs:matrix.org> The best person to give an estimate would be [@kayabanerve:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@kayabanerve:matrix.org)

On one hand, it is concerning to coexist with such people on the blockchain. But on the other - I am glad they exist because their mistakes are a very interesting way to learn about OPSEC and LE capabilities. Also they prove that the tools we use are suited for way more extreme threat models than ours.

<e​ddie:oblak.be> has tradeogre already released a statement?

<s​bt:nope.chat> I can assure you, their threat models are far from sophisticated. It's nothing more than basic opsec.

m-relay: no

<s​bt:nope.chat> You're pinging the bridge username.

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> user is assumed to respond to eddie. but still, no.

well, no, no statements, nothing

sbt, yeah, I know, I meant those who actually do it properly (apparently they exist).

And the big targets because it's more dramatic. Although sometimes it's just amusing to see them do down in funny ways (hi Incognito).

<e​ddie:oblak.be> Just seen on twitter .. *CfB just confirmed that $QUBIC will take over 51% of the Monero network this weekend. Mark the date: August 2.*

<e​ddie:oblak.be> It's like the end of the world back in 2012 and I remember the guys face when it didn't happen as he predicted

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Two choices:

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 1. Mine qubic, dump it, but 2x as much xmr, cost cfb $ to keep subsidizing

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 2. Mine xmr, and let cfb keep dumping 30k/day into building buy walls on qubic to try to prevent a price crash if people do 1

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Either way cfb will shout that he won, but ultimately doesnt matter which one people choose. 1 might actually he better, to bankrupt cfb asap 🙃

<e​ddie:oblak.be> I don't completely understand your reasoning for 1.

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> someone just ddos his infrastructure

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> could some kind blackhat save us

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> xd

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> It costs cfb $ to subsidize the qubic price (which implies 325k/day in network security. 2x moneros)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> If we mine and dump qubic, he has to keep paying out of pocket to inflate the qubic price. 1 is an attack on his pocketbook

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> As long as we dong give qubic 51%, the attack will cost him $ and be useless

<e​ddie:oblak.be> is it cheap to mine qubic?

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> acquire hardware, cant be any easier

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> It should cost half as much as to mine xmr, since cfb is subsidizing miners out of pocket

<e​ddie:oblak.be> how is he doing that?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Has been mining monero and building buy walls on qubic to pump the price of qubic

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Also might be funded externally, who knows

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> yes, from parents money

<e​ddie:oblak.be> If that'd be the case it could become a fierce battle

<a​migosdelzulu:matrix.org> I've met drug dealers/users in real life. There are all kinds of people on public transportation. I was approached a few times right in front of a police station too. You can also join just about any discord server. From what I understand, most of these people use telegram and litecoin to trade drugs. In the UK it was Instagram not so long ago (??????) So using monero and dnm is a<clipped message>

<a​migosdelzulu:matrix.org> lready way beyond the curve.

Reminds me of how I see graffitis advertising those stores or "courier" jobs :/ Either on clearnet sites or outright on Telegram. Some of them say "VPN/Tor" lol

<e​ddie:oblak.be> My dealer literally wanted to be paid in USDC because it was easier for him to lose in copy trading scams 😅

<b​asses:matrix.org> #monero-offtopic:monero.social

sup holmes