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<o​frnxmr:monero.social> why are you so soft? Wont even accept my invites anymore

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> The war rages on

<m​alcolmz:matrix.thisisjoes.site> he's still at it lmao

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<p​lowsof:matrix.org> thanks to the other mod who handled this

nyx:nyxmr.top: "on the topic of cool design, this website is fucking sick: arwes.dev" What are you talking about? It's an empty page!

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> you need javascript enabled

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> they always know, just flexing

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/prxqlmJOlODIyjEtslMtBGPs

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> we have a 2 second blocktime and people say monero is slow /s

nyx:nyxmr.top: Alright, let me enable Javascript in w3m...

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> the nope dot chat admin responded, email registration has been enabled

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> lmao

But really, even in Firefox with JS enabled, the page is almost empty.

There is a 5 word sentence, a logo, and some buttons with lots of empty space for no reason.

<b​asses:matrix.org> unstoppableswap.net

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> Did anyone figured out a point-to-pay via ungoogled android yet?

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> aka alternative to google wallet/pay

I just don't get the gimmick tbh.

I don't use cards normally, but why are some people obsessed with it being on their phone? Some even stick a payment sticker on it (iPhone users that are without their bank apps).

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> god i always cringe when someone pays with their stupid 1000€ apple watch

I mean, I don't devalue you, I just don't understand it.

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> less things to carry and easier to manage the cards

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> e.g. when you do virtual cards a lot

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> since using monero directly for that is kinda painful agony as i have to wait for like 20 min in the store for the payment to go through

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<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> tbh was kinda wondering if we are at the age where XMR is kinda obsolete with the mainstream crypto implementing encrypted methods and OXEN moving from XMR-based to ethereum-based session token as basically the only thing that XMR has going on is the privacy but it lacks lot of the features of other cryptos that kinda make it really painful to use practically like the point2pay an<cli

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> d integration in messengers and various APIs that i kinda care about

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<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org plowsof plooooowsof

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<p​lowsof:matrix.org> hi

<b​laxdm:monero.social> hello plowsof

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<p​lowsof:matrix.org> thank you for forming an orderly line

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> this guy's still going at it?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Damn

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> fuckin hell

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> thought he'd have gotten bored by now

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> the nope chat admin has enabled email registration and actively banning the accounts (to slow him down)

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> now using monero dot social

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Still images

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> please disable image / video previews in your matrix clients settings, if possible (always a good thing to do regardless)

<5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> e.g. when you do virtual cards a lot <- Ah, that's fair. Do you have some card-only locations or something?

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<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> KYC-free virtual cards paid for with XMR to workaround the processing time which can't be topped up so you kinda just replace them all the time

You mentioned something "point-to-pay", no? Or that wasn't the NFC payment?

Also curious about people's experiences with those cards - saw them offered on Trocador and on some service built into Cake Wallet, and wondered if this is a viable way of donating to projects that don't take Monero or other low-fee crypto (would've used my own card but I can't)

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> Afaik the card is NFC and emulating the NFC should be enough but looking though it android won't let you emulate the NFC unless you use the Google's API and the github.com/nfcgate/nfcgate recommends xposed module with magisk to bypass that

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> They worked without issues for me, but never tried trocador and the local gov got most of the companies providing them banned

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> afaik nfcgate wouldn't work for cards more than once per scan

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> so might as well just have a physical

Ah, I just don't get the need to use NFC in particular so never questioned. I was just wondering why you'd need that - some business around you doesn't accept cash?

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> also on a completely different tangent, are there any good cold storage wallets for xmr I could snag for under $50?

Also I wonder if the sandboxed Google services in GOS would do the job (not installing them myself ever tho).

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> I think functionally all monero needs to do is be capable of completely anonymous transactions, be resistant to theft from everything other than a direct result of individual opsec, be resource efficient to use, be resistant to disproportionate influence among its asset bearers, be fungible, have a sufficient supply without excessive inflation, and achieve the highest possible tx <clipped message>

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> rate while maintaining those criteria.

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> gpay does not work on graphene

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> it requires *full* play integrity/safetynet compliance

Ah, even with Google services enabled. Okay!

lol

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> which is funny because most retail android devices don't actually pass play integrity requirements

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> the only reason they get validated is because they pay google to license their services

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> yay monopolies amirite

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> I think functionally all monero needs to do is be capable of completely anonymous transactions, be resistant to theft from everything other than a direct result of individual opsec, be resource efficient to use, be resistant to disproportionate influence among its asset bearers, be fungible, have a sufficient supply without excessive inflation, and achieve the highest possible tx <clipped message>

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> rate capacity while maintaining those criteria.

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> anyways, is the Ledger Nano S Plus anything worth getting? or should I just stick to having my private keys on my computer

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> resistant to disproportionate influence seems impossible considering how much of influence does the gov have over it through baning it rn and whales using it as BTC tumbler

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> and fungibility.. kinda moot as i am always loosing money on it unless i plan investments strategically

You cannot really ban it. But you can do selective enforcement. And put effort into deanonymizing the devs as if they were some drug market admins.

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> Should probably be reported to the EU they are dealing with google rn afaik

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> reckon it already has

5m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de: (Going Unix user mode) What is a "point-to-pay"?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> idk what the topic is on but freewallet, known scam for years, is chilling on the apple and google appstore

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> meanwhile cake gets monerocom removed because its "the same app"

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> you point a device to the terminal and it pays the amount

So... Do some places you need such a card in not accept cash?

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> I think it's rather that some people hate using cash e.g. me

Ah, okay.

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> For context it's full of nasty things and like you can exchange them to get them clean, but you need a bank account for that and even then it's kinda burden to pay for various things and take like 40 sec on average getting the amount the merchant wants in comparison to few seconds just touching the terminal

Germaphone?

Germaphobe?

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> not really.. i guess only when it comes to cash

I don't understand that personally, but you do you) Indeed, such a dumb limitation.

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> it's mainly the convinience to just tap a terminal

<5​m5z3q888q5prxkg:chat.lightnovel-dungeon.de> Or like is there a solution to do NFC payments on linux? cuz i will be migrating the device on nixos soon

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> not plausible afaik

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> nfc payment systems are generally proprietary

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> so you'd probably have to make your own with systems licensed from mastercard/visa or whatever card provider you ahve

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> so you'd probably have to make your own with systems licensed from mastercard/visa or whatever card provider you have

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> which is... good luck with that.

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> most likely you'd have to sign an NDA as well to even start work on it so you can't make it open source even if you wanted

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> I've wanted to have my own before as well but hit the roadblock of tap to pay being proprietary as well

I wonder whether just NFC reader itself would work, without the payment system now... Like if you want to take a look at the data stored on your transport card.

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<k​arano:poddery.com> spam

<s​iren:kernal.eu> This is so 2010

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Lol he got bored

<s​iren:kernal.eu> From monologue

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> He went to irc ans everything

<b​asses:matrix.org> he's gonna kill himself anytime soon

<b​asses:matrix.org> matter of time

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> He kept leaving my dm's

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Bottomless pit

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> i still cant believe he /ignored me

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Didnt want to talk to me privately 🤬

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<n​yx:nyxmr.top> get your money up not your funny up

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<n​yx:nyxmr.top> 'cause you're failing at both

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<n​yx:nyxmr.top> unfunny broke ass

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nigga ur broke

i have so much more money than you

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<b​asses:matrix.org> I would just not engage, he will just see the reflection of his sorry ass on the screen. And cry at his meaningless life.

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yeah go kys nyx

you should literally kill yourself

you should kys

nobody would care

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<n​yx:nyxmr.top> that's why yo granny ain't go no knees

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y'all are just broke, fat, retarded and black

you're all getting mad at me because i'm richer than y'all and i'm so much better than you and y'all are just broke niggas who are jealous of me because I am better than you

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> she can't pray to jesus

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> know your customer

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Kyc hahaha

<s​iren:kernal.eu> The only time you were funny

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i can't realte i'm a skeleton

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> endor00 charuto plowsof @plowsof:matrix.org xmrscott Diego Salazar

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> would ask you to the prom but I'd still have no body to go with

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> as opposed to doing it figuratively

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> LMAO

<b​asses:matrix.org> they for sure care about you lmao

<b​asses:matrix.org> racist, pedo, retard

<b​asses:matrix.org> his dad only will come back to kill what he brought to the world

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I'm wondering if this is automated

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> dawg your net worth is a piece of chewed gum, pocket lint and a paperclip

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> bdmbdmnigga on your left

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Nah school just ended he's 14

<b​asses:matrix.org> why you crying retard?

temporary measures are in place rottenwheel

<b​asses:matrix.org> no life? no purpose?

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> would make it less pathetic but it's evidently not since he's somehow failed at pasting multiple times

<b​asses:matrix.org> looool

<b​asses:matrix.org> die fuck head no one will notice

sorry for the disturbance

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thx plowsof

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> calm down rando he's already gone

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> love u :superheartforplowsofemoji:

<b​asses:matrix.org> on my mission to make this world a better place

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> on my mission to monetize this men talent

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> we're not the same

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ban rando for death threats 🤬🤬🤬🤬

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Jk

<b​asses:matrix.org> clipboard.png

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> But somemod needs to delete mrelays last like 150msgs

<b​asses:matrix.org> agree

<p​reland:monero.social> Easy, just ban m-relay for spam /j

<b​asses:matrix.org> if u delete a message on matrix will be auto deleted on irc?

<b​asses:matrix.org> or this old protocol doesn't function that way?

<p​reland:monero.social> That would be cool, so probably not

irc is blockchain technology

there was a chainsplit and now we have offtopic

wont delete for irc, but will cleanup matrix

this is all an attempt at social engineering to make ofrnxmr a mod /s

<b​asses:matrix.org> sorry irc bros...

And that last message was reverse psychology

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<b​asses:matrix.org> monero-homepage-demo.png

<b​asses:matrix.org> imgur.com/a/PcoYHcs

<b​asses:matrix.org> website redesign concept, what do you guys think?

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> I like it.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> That's it then. New design settled

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> good job everyone

<s​iren:kernal.eu> The circular bright orange buttons are either too flat or big. Try adding accents to them (maybe make them neumorphic, add shadows or outlines)

<b​asses:matrix.org> looks like a lot of people are agree on orangle circles looking weird

<b​asses:matrix.org> looks like a lot of people agree on orangle circles looking weird

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Hmm what if you kept the background black for those but added orange outline and glow?

<b​asses:matrix.org> Diego Salazar

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> a lot of people being 3 people?

<b​asses:matrix.org> I think this design is very common and widely used which is probably not going to be accepted?

<s​iren:kernal.eu> vostoemisio: can provide valuable feedback too

<b​asses:matrix.org> need something, clean simple, yet modern

<b​asses:matrix.org> yes

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> one of them being syntheticbird who was 50-50

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Just giving you ideas on how to possibly make it look better. Those buttons break harmony and do not look good to me currently.

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> oh some confusion. The design is mine.

<b​asses:matrix.org> your fault

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> literally a true statement. :D

<s​iren:kernal.eu> Make sure your display is true to color then

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> ok screen recalibrated on my second screen

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> and yes, don't worry we already plan to orangify

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> we can neumorphize the buttons, but it looked meh when we did it

<d​iego:cypherstack.com> we'll continue to tweak and mess with it

<b​asses:matrix.org> xcancel.com/MoneroMavrick/status/1831552548995571978#m

<b​asses:matrix.org> Chainalysis are actively trying to take down this video from the internet!! embed-ssl.wistia.com/deliveries/a18…7bf702cbe109a3a2526c8762b9c0acd.mp4

<b​asses:matrix.org> and it is even gone from their provider

link doesn’t work. do you have another one?

<b​asses:matrix.org> will find it, already archived, we won't such slip up slide ;)

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> I downloaded a copy of the video, it's in my hard drive.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> 1 XMR and I'll upload it somewhere. Mwahaha.

<b​asses:matrix.org> he's joking, I will upload for free to the Monero community :)

<b​asses:matrix.org> won't be corrupted as Feds

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> I am never joking.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Now price has gone up to 1.337 XMR. Thanks rando!

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Dropping a download link that will be valid for the first 10 downloads or expire in 3 days, whichever happens first.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Send some shekels to `86dAauG9nfKNwCx9UgMzbCgNF4dayVYwCFeKLSkQy5wkD9NwwHV5nnRG5ohiRBTiHTRGAr6zhfvY37BUfFBoy2xr1rwG89o` if you want to.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> send.vis.ee/download/2918eddaa5fba510/#fqnRYJxbpAP5VQNrRpp41Q

<b​asses:matrix.org> cool, thx

<b​asses:matrix.org> g​eonic

tx

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> is it alright if I reup it once it expires?

<b​asses:matrix.org> Another link by the guy himself librejo.monerodevs.org/nahuhh/basicswap-bash/releases/tag/BSX-DEMO

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> or just right now tbh

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> That'll be you who uploads it, not me, up to you, yea.

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Cert is expired on Librejo... Synthetic is aware.

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> oof cert expired

<b​asses:matrix.org> expired

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> did it?

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> no it's still up

<b​asses:matrix.org> yes, would be great

<b​asses:matrix.org> can upload to odysee

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> I'll add it to my archive gimme a sec

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> nyxmr.top/archive/videos/crypto/chainalysis_XMR.mp4

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> done

<b​asses:matrix.org> cool, chainanaly will send DMCA to u 1!!11!!

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> also wow this guy sucks at making google docs slideshows

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> it's kind of impressive how bad it looks

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> archive.org/details/chainalysis_XMR

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> if archive.org takes down archived games they're sure to take that down the moment chainalysis catches wind of it

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> if archive.org takes down archived freeware games they're sure to take that down the moment chainalysis catches wind of it

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> 🤷

The only thing left now is to make a torrent :D

And upload it to thepiratebay (or whatever is popular now) in the "documentaries" section :D

oh lol p2pool.io/u/f0f9bfb4fba08016/image.png

"comment removed by Reddit"

I posted the links to your videos there

It only took them 6 minutes

maybe even less

That comment sech1 didnt appear to have anything removal worthy in it?.

Using your own node / churning advice right?

yes

and the links to that video

Ah ok confirmed, thanks

It stayed up for a day, but got "disappeared by Reddit" minutes after I posted new links

<b​asses:matrix.org> lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ive got the chainalsys video downloaded too

They're really trying hard to remove it from the Internet. Didn't they hear about the Streisand effect?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I received an invite from JayDove anyone know who this guy is?

<b​asses:matrix.org> undelete.pullpush.io/r/Monero/comme…_monero_via_malicious_nodes/llho4tb

<b​asses:matrix.org> LOL

<b​asses:matrix.org> fuck chainanal

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/XcyqrBrQVXSbijvslhbXNmCD

<b​asses:matrix.org> someone should tweet about how bad they are trying to remove all mentions of that vid

I don't have twitter

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok

Well, I do, but it has like 1 subscriber and 0 tweets

<b​asses:matrix.org> weird flex 1 sub

<b​asses:matrix.org> or u meant follower

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> in case I get a DMCA in the near future

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> have this too drive.nyxmr.top/l/490bfc7e-cb40-4d9…fd68a35ac14611aa55ca2228c5dbb2ed237

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> x.com/monerobull/status/1831756685968548168

<b​asses:matrix.org> nice directory software, usually I n see the default for ubuntu

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> *that's* not directory software

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> but this is: nyxmr.top/archive

<b​asses:matrix.org> meant this one

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> yea

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> it's a hell of a lot nicer than default nginx autoindex

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> even has a dark mode

Censor THIS monero.town/post/4220893

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> you forgot my backup link :P

" or u meant follower" I didn't know it's called follower

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> can someone make a torrent already

yes, follower

I don't use Twitter

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> pardon?

<s​trawberry:monero.social> make it an ordinal /s

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> lmao

<b​asses:matrix.org> will everyone use a VPN?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yes

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> no anon is stupid enough to use its glowie connection

<b​asses:matrix.org> pinky promise? don't want to see arrests nor ISP terminating your service

In the video, there was one stupid enough anon in Columbia

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> nice

<b​asses:matrix.org> rip

<b​asses:matrix.org> will probably include some general opsec guide in the new Monero website/docs™️

rule #1 will be to run your own node

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> rule #2 will be to use your friends node if you wan't

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> s/wan't/can't

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> would have churning actually helped at all in this case? im thinking no because they were quite literally JACKED INTO THE CHAINALYSIS COMPUTER

I watched the whole video and they only trace direct consolidations of the inputs

even a single churn of each input would break their "consolidation detection"

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> we should have an event called No Chainanalysis November where we send love letters and memes to chainanalysis

But that was a year ago, maybe they're more advanced now

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> lol ok

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> >love letter

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> > love letter yes

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> monero ❤️ chainanalysis

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> my neural network resolves that as "law enforcement letter"

<b​asses:matrix.org> need an insider like contractors

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> quite funny how that works

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ask a normal person to picture a love letter and theyll picture this

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/oaYZBqOaisQSGxdlkpJDqbhU

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> exactly

<b​asses:matrix.org> if anyone works with a compnay that is contracted with chainanalysis, can share with us their latest capabilities

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> imagine

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ask me and ill picture this

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/tMyoLrZhSVlhVFCnRzyvPiTx

<s​trawberry:monero.social> q35z7xyfu2usx32d5shfmjdkqpofwqrhwp3buau4gnwys7jg7vbaexqd.onion

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and i never even bought anything on the darknet, only browsed r/darknet lmao

<b​asses:matrix.org> seize*

<b​asses:matrix.org> so they are lying?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> UI: 0, UX: 100

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> LMAO, this might actually be the vendor sending a fake love letter

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> to extort the buyer

<p​reland:monero.social> At around timestamp 20:20, they claim that they were able to bypass Dandelion entirely because of an RPC call to a Chainalysis-controlled node

<p​reland:monero.social> (For that given transaction example)

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> *huh you know I really loved the way you typed the amount of cocaine you wanted on the marketplace. This must have such a romantic keytype speed*

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> *want to date on dread?*

Of course they can bypasss Dandelion++ if you connect to THEIR node

to send YOUR transaction

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/vAhVomRXzgdhlRJdhDbhOsdc

lol

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I believe in `Rucknium's node` supremacy

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> smells like extortion yea

<p​reland:monero.social> Funnily enough I’m pretty sure they doxxed their own node with that

They have many nodes, and their doxxed node is from 2020

<b​asses:matrix.org> looks fake as hell

<p​reland:monero.social> Though I wonder what someone was doing with that rpc call to an *obviously* untrusted node

<p​reland:monero.social> Fair

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> monero.fail should endorse nodes that we trust because of community individuals behind it

it was node.moneroworld.com that was supposed to be trusted

the only trusted node is your own node!

<b​asses:matrix.org> node was moneroworld

<b​asses:matrix.org> anyone could have connected to it

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yeah but no one knew moneroworld was dns pointing to somewhere else

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> wait maybe im confused

<b​asses:matrix.org> everyone should connect plowsof's node

<s​trawberry:monero.social> fixed it

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yes

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> plowsof

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> your node is dead

Maybe it was mentioned somewhere, but I might have missed it: Any info about how, when and where this video became public? Probably a leak, do we know who leaked? Any theories if not known for sure?

<r​ucknium:monero.social> SyntheticBird: FWIW, the machine that hosts my public node is not under my physical control. It's a rented dedicated server.

It was leaked on twitter first

<b​asses:matrix.org> it was confirmed that dns part?

<p​reland:monero.social> I was wondering this same thing

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> idk i literally learn the story 2 hours ago

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thx strawberry

<b​asses:matrix.org> LE can literally manipulate any server and DNS server they want

<b​asses:matrix.org> look discuss.privacyguides.net/t/suspici…oudfare-gandi-ovh-hetzner-etc/18889

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Yes, Hetzner can MITM your server by an orderd from LE

There was a MITM attack on some Russian forum in 2022 (IIRC)

<b​asses:matrix.org> mentioned in the thread

<b​asses:matrix.org> all VPS servers and DNS providers will comply not only Hetzner

Very nice video. We can replace a lot of speculation by quite hard facts about their capabilities and approaches, even if only at 1 year ago

That's not "KYC", that's "KYE" (know your enemy) :)

<b​asses:matrix.org> this is how they monitored Encrochat (honeypot)

rbrunner the examples in their video are from 2020

We can only assume they got more advanced since then

Like working around single churns, detecting wallet versions by their RPC calls etc etc

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> encrochat was so retarded

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> "hey, i am crime man, do you want to buy crime phone?"

Yes. But on the other hand, you know how it is. I have to prepare an attractive demo -> I take the clearest and nicest examples I can find

<b​asses:matrix.org> on twitter, it is not a "leak" it was a video course on their academy platform, the author just revealed too much info ;) xcancel.com/Thankful_fr_tdy/status/1830706773768184206#m

<n​eromonero1024:monero.social> crime people aren't generally technologically proficient, to say the very least

<b​asses:matrix.org> you had to alsopay for the service lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> lmao

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> [LFW] Head of Operational Security @ Turkish Crime Family

<b​asses:matrix.org> are there plans to make monero traffic look like https?

<b​asses:matrix.org> uncensorable at all

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i think Rucknium mentioned looking into network security in yesterdays monerotalk+

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> don't ask me that question

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> jk

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> vtnerd has been working on TLS integration

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I've looked at traffic obfuscation but its a complex topic

<r​ucknium:monero.social> I did. I was talking about the P2P network privacy instead of wallet to remote node privacy.

<b​asses:matrix.org> would be interesting to see researches done on this topic

<r​ucknium:monero.social> AFAIK, if a user is using their own IP address to submit a transaction from their wallet to a spy node, there is no protocol that can protect their privacy.

<b​asses:matrix.org> yep

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> onion routing?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> tor

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but yeah

<r​ucknium:monero.social> I said using their own IP address. I meant with no type of proxy

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> no no I meant onion routing with monero nodes. A little like DNS oblivion works

<p​reland:monero.social> This

<b​asses:matrix.org> just because the theory of "the only possible way to shut down monero is by shitting down the internet" which is not true because any country can use DPI to drop any traffic that looks like Monero without the need of shutting down the internet

<p​reland:monero.social> Also the presenter leaked their ip :(

<b​asses:matrix.org> he is already arrested soo

<p​reland:monero.social> Oh

<b​asses:matrix.org> probably as they were investigating him

<r​ucknium:monero.social> I can tell when a Monero node is relaying a 100KB tx just by using my human eyes on a network graph. Using TLS doesn't hide that

<r​ucknium:monero.social> You need something much stronger and more expensive!

<b​asses:matrix.org> so rip amigo

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Nym has a good idea to use cover traffic.

<b​asses:matrix.org> padding

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i thought monero produces fake data

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i thought monerod produces fake data

<r​ucknium:monero.social> But that cover traffic is expensive

<r​ucknium:monero.social> AFAIK, there is some fake noise data, but it doesn't...hide from my eyes lol

Revuo Monero Issue 209: August 29 - September 5, 2024. revuo-xmr.com/weekly/issue-209

<b​oog900:monero.social> It's only used for Tor IIRC

<b​oog900:monero.social> even then it can be disabled

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> not certin, but i also remember it to be Tor only

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Yeah that's what I recall, too. Used for Tor. I don't know exactly how it works.

<p​reland:monero.social> Well I’m glad to see that they didn’t have any of our ip’s on their “speed dial” spreadsheet

<p​reland:monero.social> Well unless you were one of the inactive minexmr botnet ips

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Is it for tx relay only, the noise?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Monero nodes communicating over QUIC, my dream

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> faster, safer, more reliable, and most importantly it could be web looking traffic

<r​ucknium:monero.social> You have to constantly emit a huge amount of noise (over Tor!) to cover up the broadcast of 100KB times the number of your connections. boog900 's proposal to have a three-message tx relay system instead of simple flooding would reduce the bandwidth blip

<r​ucknium:monero.social> IMHO, the bigger issue is that the IP addresses of almost every node in the network can be known by an adversary pretty easily. It's much easier to just detect and shut down connections with that IP list. You don't have to analyze the data packets at all.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> aka active probing

<r​ucknium:monero.social> You need some sort of hidden bridge for some nodes to connect behind a censorship firewall. Monero could look at what Tor does with its bridges program

<r​ucknium:monero.social> SyntheticBird: Yes. It's just what monero.fail does for their node map. Their code is open source. It's not hard

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yes i know I was just giving an alternative name

<b​asses:matrix.org> simplex chat uses Pond for message padding simplex.chat/blog/20240314-simplex-…ding-messages-to-a-fixed-block-size but idk it is just for instant messaging

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> also check dm

<p​reland:monero.social> The underlying issue now isn’t cryptography, it’s steganography

<b​asses:matrix.org> net4people/bbs #264

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> alright then TCP/HTTP2 it should be

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> tbf i doubt we ever find a way to bypass china firewall

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> it's state of the art traffic classification.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you needs pluggable protocols like V2 to overcome this

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> not so hype about adding a native V2 first class support into monerod

<b​oog900:monero.social> I am pretty sure yes

<b​oog900:monero.social> blocks are not sent over anonymity networks but it does seem only the tx messages are using noise

<b​oog900:monero.social> When using noise we choose 2 connections to periodically send empty data to, when we have a txs to send we split the tx packet up into fragments the size of the empty data and send the tx fragments instead of the empty data

<r​ucknium:monero.social> I don't know if I'm interpreting this right, but `--tx-proxy` docs at getmonero.dev/interacting/monerod.html say

<r​ucknium:monero.social> > Note that forwarded transactions (those not originating from the connected wallet(s)) will still be relayed over clearnet.

<b​oog900:monero.social> max tx size for noise is around 60kb

<b​oog900:monero.social> yep only txs from our node will be sent over Tor

<b​oog900:monero.social> one of the things exploited in that paper a couple months ago

<b​oog900:monero.social> which we are still vulnerable to

<r​ucknium:monero.social> My hypothesis is that an observer of bandwidth volume would be able to tell that you are running a node even if you are using tx-proxy with noise.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> An observer with just eyeballs lol

<r​ucknium:monero.social> If you want to defeat statistical analysis, you need a strong system

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Especially since your node'a bandwidth patterns will be very similar to other nodes on the network at any given time since you are transmitting the same data

<b​oog900:monero.social> The goal isn't to hide node usage, blocks are still not sent over Tor, it's to hide the tx origin

<r​ucknium:monero.social> I agree. I was responding to this comment ^ about whether it is easy to tell that a machine is running a node from bandwidth volume patterns

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> quantum p2p network when?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> no need to hide the traffic its teleported through space time

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Reset counter

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Tls just protects whats in the data.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Does monerod allow dot ? For public dns flag?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> mimble wimble but its quantum

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> mimble wimble but you can't say it backwards

please give me invite code

for matrix room

i got banned for posting a picture of lionel nassi nazi messi meme lol

why did you ban me for sending a lionel nassi meme?

that would be #resolutions (matrix room)

<b​asses:matrix.org> someone uploaded the full vid on twitter lmao xcancel.com/da_sails/status/1831800726257070512#m

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> [ Removed by Reddit ]

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<b​asses:matrix.org> looks like FBI forwarded IPs from exchanges like FixedFloat and Changenow (probably all exchanges) to Chainanaylsis

<b​asses:matrix.org> zoom at the white box

<b​asses:matrix.org> in the pic

<b​asses:matrix.org> and txids/payments info

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> "Possibly binance?" seems like they figured it out themselves

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> other instances of possibly

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> fixedfloat have just added xmr again, 1000 $usd max transfers with only btc/bnb/eth/usdt pairs, strange so few pairs and low amounts

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> oh i see Changenow (FBI/LA) now, ignore me, clearly in cahoots

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ive seen a term for that

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Data sharing

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> something like "rightful forward"

<3​21bob321:monero.social> ?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah so basically the feds just forward data from exchanges to chainanal

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Lawful access

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Banmonero.com

<3​21bob321:monero.social> You criminals!

<3​21bob321:monero.social> I have nothing to hide!

<b​asses:matrix.org> chainanalysis removed a couple of courses from their website

<b​asses:matrix.org> like web.archive.org/web/20230508034839/…ademy.chainalysis.com/privacy-coins

<b​asses:matrix.org> this whole courses page too web.archive.org/web/20230404180852/…nalysis.com/page/learn-our-products

<b​asses:matrix.org> bunch of cowards

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Rip no free pentesting