<c​rispycat:matrix.calitabby.com> that's great! could you install rustdesk and give me your access code? i'm just a friendly TERRORISM PREVENTER™ who wants to make sure you're not doing anything wrong 😊

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/kEwBrUIAwWtBMMxwOEAHTfoC

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> Lets gooo babyyyy

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> Any tips for a new graphene user?

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> Also are there any cloud storage services (trying to back up my images) that accept monero?

<p​reland:monero.social> Idea: create “banbanmonero.com”, which advocates for banning banmonero from existing, because “being a terrible straw man for your own cause is a surefire way to let le criminals win”

<p​reland:monero.social> (That url shouldn’t be clicked currently)

<p​reland:monero.social> Assuming banmonero isn’t a troll, which it could be, but idk, parts of it seem a bit too real

<c​rispycat:matrix.calitabby.com> it's got a "disposal" address, lol

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> image.png

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> Waiting for the cease and desist letter any time now. Lol.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Emailed to hardware⊙go?

<r​ottenwheel:kernal.eu> xcancel.com/rottenwheel1/status/1831903530187424235

<j​effro256:monero.social> Rucknium: looks like the fee issue you identified in Exodus ended up having an impact for a real world investigation

<j​effro256:monero.social> It was so bad for Exodus that you can see their tracing tool can identify Exodus wallet transactions from everything else without additional info lol

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> Did exodus fix it ?

<j​effro256:monero.social> old.reddittorjg6rue252oqsxryoxengaw…sory_exodus_desktop_users_update_to

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> someone spamming blockchain with 30/2

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> What does that mean?

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> it's satire

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> it's basically like the "I want to do something illegal... in minecraft" thing

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I ran the biggest Minecraft server in the world in 2012

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> It was only the biggest for 2 years 😂

<j​ack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> p2pool.io/explorer/txpool scroll that page and notice 20kb txs

hey guys sorry to bother you but is the monero blockchain down? My funds have been unspendable for an hour or two so far; it usually takes only 20 minutes of course

I reinstalled GUI wallet and restored from seed but my funds are still stuck

its strange because i see new blocks being created

<n​eromonero1024:monero.social> is your txid visible on any monero blockchain explorer?

<n​eromonero1024:monero.social> recommended: p2pool.io/explorer

Mempool is full at the moment

<a​mmortel:monero.social> Blockchain down would be a great title for a blockbuster

I see so that means I should just wait until tommorrow morning I guess

So your transaction doesn't have high enough fee to be mined quickly

No, it will probably take max a few hours to clear the mempool

Ah I see

its not usually like this right? because it hasnt happened before

at least for the past month or two that ive been using Monero

Last time it happened was in March

I see wow thats a massive spike lol

but i dont see one for today interesting

Today is much smaller scale and it will register on that chart after 24 hours

Ah I see

I was wondering if I did something stupid with my wallet haha; thanks a lot for the help

wow reddit is such a shithole now

now? where you been for the past 5 years?

true

btw I didn't get any notification of why it was removed

did u have a link there? all I remember was a best practices sort of thing

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> is this spam or just some exchange consolidation?

<t​rasherdk:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/emuCxoEssNiPglUzOaFuwLcF

I edited with a couple new links to the Chainalysis video

and it got removed

got it. wow they’re going all out

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> btw lol monero.town/post/4220893

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> btw lol monero.town/post/4220893 nyxmr.top/archive/videos/crypto/chainalysis_XMR.mp4

I deleted my first Reddit account out of dissatisfaction, then tried to register another one and it got shadowbanned for pretty much no reason (the comments were very innocent, I blame the custom email domain)

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> so chainalysis tries to deanonymize monero users, by running monero nodes, to get their ip addresses is what i understood

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> me mention

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> waiting on the C&D from chainalysis in my inbox

cookies and donuts

Changenow and Fixedfloat also seem to be the FBI honeypots

and they share users' data with Chainalysis (IP, transaction amounts)

Good thing my threat model is low)

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> oh yeah any Centralised exchange that forces you to KYC IS a honeypot

and probably their wallet data too (to help eliminate decoys from transactions)

Even with my threat model, I would never KYC on an exchange. Having to do it in places like the bank or the mobile carrier is enough already.

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…/nyxmr.top/gtdaEdeRtweGutwlfaaLOgXI

At least just because this shit is leaky.

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> more likely just that the feds asked "hey what are your node IPs"

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> at least imo

Where is the table screenshot from? That video?

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> yeah

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> is all of chainalysis just an ugly excel sheet

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> seems that way lmao

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> even their internal tooling looks like excel

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…/nyxmr.top/xnxVfxtIcExAvHYHlFDVMMeS

Not like in Hollywood hacker movies, I'm disappointed

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> is this just their xmr tooling and the other stuff looks nicer?

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> internal tooling doesn't even have proxy/vpn detection

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> they have to outsource that to ipqualityscore 😂

<a​mmortel:monero.social> Why would you want nice looking things

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> to sell

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> not sure, I don't have internal access

<a​mmortel:monero.social> They sell the data, not the data presentation

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> you also get this guy in the corner near the end of the video

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…/nyxmr.top/BGQGaGCyQBUNpoikntrcoYSX

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i thought they sold access to their platform

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i thought it would be more like arkham

<a​mmortel:monero.social> I Don't Know actually. But it's my guess

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you know, smart, nice lines connecting wallets, etc. not a guy taking IPs from an excel sheet and googling "is this ip a vpn"

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i bet they made this entire thing only to claim they can trace monero & get the bounty

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and sometimes someone manually does all of this stuff for big cases

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but most of the time they just prey on IP data

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> image.png

<a​mmortel:monero.social> They can't do that obviously, monero's quite good

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and most of their LE requests end in an email going "We couldnt find anything"

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> most they can do is prey on bad opsec

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> connecting node usage and deducing decoys

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> which means running your own node renders their methods unusable

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> and FCMP++ will fully break it

I don't know if this could be parallel construction, but all the times I saw "Tor or Monero user revealed", there is a very plausible OPSEC mistake...

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> well not always

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> not always but more often than not

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> bad opsec is the worst enemy of privacy tooling

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> there was also that time the feds exploited tor browser and installed backdoors

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> just look at what happened to incognito market

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i think you had to go on a compromised site for that

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> oh yeah and fedbois love setting up honeypots after getting control of a service

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> just gathering evidence before the full seizure

monerobull, were there cases when the exploit was Javascript-less btw?

Seems like those would be more expensive...

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> look up "fbi running half the darknet child porn sites" or something along those lines

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> from what I can tell all we know is it was a zero day

Incognito? Did see the story but not caught up yet (still). Was he caught because of the transparent crypto transactions or something? I don't remember seeing his main mistakes...

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> pharao was a moron

monerobull, no thanks, I am out of brain bleach.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> he made many mistakes

I wonder if some of the people whom he tried to extort snitched on him lol

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> like, googling, with his personal google account "what to do when server is down" live while the fbi was copying it

ah

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no he was essentially caught 2 years before the arrest

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> the big mistake pharaoh did was to exchange BTC for something else on a KYC exchange

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> also exchanging btc through a swapper with bad policy and then complaining on dread "they took my btc D:"

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> classified even

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i replied to a reddit post of him ones lol

nihilist, ah! Yeah, I remember it now. He also spent it on something stupid.

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> ok I think I found something

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> seems to have been js

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> when you have tainted BTCs by default and you go and KYC yourself somewhere using that same wallet, "well shit i should've used monero!"

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> well to be fair he did use monero

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> just poorly

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> iirc the swapping service he used to go from btc -> xmr was kyc and that's how he was caught

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/QNngxDQLFNWPsMSQhZQdLftV

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no he wasnt THAT stupid

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> yeah been a while since I watched it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but he did send btc from DNM wallet to swapper and then directly to kyc exchange

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> that's worse

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> HMMMM i wonder who could have made this 1.3 BTC worth of XMR deposit after 1.3 BTC went from the DNM wallet to an instant swapper

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> yes very good question

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> maybe it was joe

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> with only ~20 minutes delay

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> it was probably joe

"which means running your own node renders their methods unusable" <- also not forgetting to churn your inputs (they can detect consolidation transactions)

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> yea just watch the volumes coming in and out, preety easy to know who did it

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> well with FCMP++ their methods will be rendered void anyways

Why tf would you use a KYC SWAPPER of all things. At least buying crypto for fiat is semi-understandable, but swappers are so common KYCless!

WHY

<j​effro256:monero.social> The method of IP farming, waiting for a dummy to submit a transaction to them over clearnet won't be, though

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> this might be a silly question but what if we made wallet in simple mode behave like node

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok no thats very stupid

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> youd need to connect to multiple nodes and they could probably easily tell you are sending data slower than the other nodes

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> monerobull that might be a "light node" monero-project/research-lab #69

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> i also have a potentially stupid question, as monero takes time to verify all the transactions at first, what if there was an optional way to "trust" the node's verifications to speed that up

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> we have a trusted node setting already

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> nah i mean, even with that it takes hours to sync up

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but youre not verifying blocks in your wallet

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> nah i mean, even with that it takes hours to sync up initially

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you are checking if you have any transactions

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> like this? getmonero.org/downloads/#blockchain

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> you cant just trust random nodes

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they could literally re-write history

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> let me re-phrase it: so you install monero for the first time, and you choose a trusted remote node. initially it takes hours to sync up right

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> let me re-phrase it: so you install monero for the first time, and you choose a trusted remote node. initially it takes hours to sync up anyway right

<3​21bob321:monero.social> trust me i have lollies 🤫

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> let me re-phrase it: so you install monero for the first time, and you choose a trusted remote node. initially it takes hours to sync up anyway right, trying to brainstorm on what could speed it up

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yes but you can skip verifications via getmonero.org/downloads/#blockchain

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> we really dont want the default to be "rely on trusted nodes not being compromised"

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> the network could slowly be infiltrated and "rot" away

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> especially not in the name of making initial sync a bit faster

e> let me re-phrase it: so you install monero for the first time, and you choose a trusted remote node. initially it takes hours to sync up right

Wrong

When you use monero for the first time, and using a trusted remote node, your wallet starts at the chain near the chain tip

At or aroun the chain tip

Syncing takes seconds

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they are talking about spinning up a new node+

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they are talking about spinning up a new node

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> lets turn this into comments and reviews on monero-project/monero-site #2241

<j​ohnfoss68:matrix.org> themoneromoon.com/p/the-monero-moon-issue-74

<t​rasherdk:monero.social> I've got a shitload of those, with the exact same wording, every 2-3 days, to different aliases. They never contained any actual information, only treats of exposing all the illegal activities I've supposedly engaged in. Total bullshit.

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> yea makes sense

<b​asses:matrix.org> doubt there are any competent services that accept Monero. You can start selfhosting and paying for Stortage VPS in Monero.

<b​asses:matrix.org> enable duress pin, to wipe device when entering specific PIN

<b​asses:matrix.org> تطبيقات خصوصية و امان للأندرويد:

<b​asses:matrix.org> InviZible Pro / Orbot

<b​asses:matrix.org> Brave

<b​asses:matrix.org> Obtainium

<b​asses:matrix.org> F-Droid

<b​asses:matrix.org> SimpleX Chat

<b​asses:matrix.org> NewPipe / Libretube

<b​asses:matrix.org> RiMusic

<b​asses:matrix.org> Aegis Authenticator

<b​asses:matrix.org> KeepassDX

<b​asses:matrix.org> OpenKeychain

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Dont get banned by daniel

<b​asses:matrix.org> InviZible Pro / Orbot

<b​asses:matrix.org> Brave

<b​asses:matrix.org> Obtainium

<b​asses:matrix.org> F-Droid

<b​asses:matrix.org> SimpleX Chat

<b​asses:matrix.org> NewPipe / Libretube

<b​asses:matrix.org> RiMusic

<b​asses:matrix.org> Aegis Authenticator

<b​asses:matrix.org> KeepassDX

<b​asses:matrix.org> OpenKeychain

<b​asses:matrix.org> Breezy Weather

<b​asses:matrix.org> forwarded

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> You forgot gmail

<b​asses:matrix.org> can use Droidfy (Modern F-droid client)

<b​asses:matrix.org> just stalk people on twitter posting their grapheneos setup etc and choose the one you need

<b​asses:matrix.org> email not secure way for communication and PGP sucks, use protonmail and an alias like simplelogin to prevent spam when signing up to services

<b​asses:matrix.org> nah, people think cartel or whatever are competent in tech, they are not.

<b​asses:matrix.org> they kidnap CS students to do basic tech stuff, don't expect that level of "doxxing" or "hacking"

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> ProtonVPN is also a really solid way to connect to the havneo app, it does it better than Orbot if you use one of their tor nodes, paid tho

<b​asses:matrix.org> For VPNs: Mullvad, IVPN, ProtonVPN

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I think the worst was InviZible, so flakey couldn’t get it to keep a reliable connection, perhaps I didn’t configure well

if only proton worked for me here

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Stealth protocol don't work? (Wireguard over TLS)

<b​asses:matrix.org> if you want extreme privacy/Nation state target, never insert a SIM card and always use Airplane mode. For the initial setup of device, do it away from your home becuase there will be some identifiers sent to cell tower

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> oh maybe you're on liux

I think the way forward is more stealthy shit anyway.

<b​asses:matrix.org> all of these offer obfuscation if your country/place uses DPI

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Hide in bunker with rpi5

Maybe those were just the servers (at least the free tier) IPs being banned.

Also I find the wall above hilarious because it went over things we already know unprompted, and lasted a bit. I thought that was a spammer)

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> User error!

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> isn't invizible just Tor?

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> isn't invizible just Tor/I2P?

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> you'd probably have a better experience using either of their respective purpose built apps

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> like [orbot](guardianproject.info/apps/org.torproject.android) or [purple i2pd](github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android)

<b​asses:matrix.org> anti forensics, and enable auto-reboot and decrease the timer depending on your situation (default 18h)

<b​asses:matrix.org> just use 1 app, invizible supports stream isolation unlike Orbot

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> image.png

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> doesn't it?

<b​asses:matrix.org> nope, guardianproject/orbot #71

<b​asses:matrix.org> see Gedsh/InviZible 0f09df2

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Perhaps,

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I think Google won’t allow this

<b​asses:matrix.org> ?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Software restrictions implied to save battery life

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I have tested having 1 isolate running for about 6 hours and then it closes

<b​asses:matrix.org> they have their own fdroid repo guardianproject.info/fdroid so they dont give a f about Google if they ever implement this feature

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> It also depends on the phone

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Fdroid might not impose those same limitations, if say you’re using graphene or something, but I’ve had a pain keeping stuff running, even orbot doesn’t stay running for me for say longer than 6 hours, but you can trigger it to start periodically with a back workmanager fetch. That all being said, it could just be hardware presets.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Using intents can help keep it running, local notifications. But I imagine several isolates would be hell to manage 😂 if I’m wrong please tell me I’ve spent days on this and very interested in this topic

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<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I run inviz 24/7

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> - Settings > fast > route all traffic through tor = disable

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> - settings > fast > select applications = haveno

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> - settings > dnscrypt > force tcp = off

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> So it just routes onion traffic through tor?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> if routes onion traffic to tor, i2p traffic fo i2p, encrypts dns, and routes all traffic from selected apps to tor

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’ve actually implemented a way for the app to not use a third party VPN wrapper but it’s leaky so wanted to avoid it

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Via VPN routing rules?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> That’s pretty unique they got I2P working

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Is it faster or slower than Tor do you know?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yea

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Via dns rules

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> The app manages dns, tor and i2p

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> When it sees onion or i2p requests, it fwds them to the appropriate interface/proxy

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> I2p? Slower

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I will try using it again, my physical device just refused to stay connected to it, I’m unsure if that’s because it’s not designed for long lived HTTP/2 connections

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> But more reliable, i find

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> The contrary..

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> If o connect to ssh locally, the connection dies eventually.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> my onion ssh stays alive tho

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> If I run a HTTP/2 connection in an isolate on Android and keep it open with Tor however, it does stay pretty stable.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Locally / over lan

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I think the number of requests on the channel is what’s messing it up, so I put a cooldown, fetch timer and a cache and that improved things quite a bit.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> If open a channel stream, and only send 1 client request synchronously it behaves. Its seems when you try to multiplex it it shits and the VPN restarts

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ive never had any service cause my vpn/inviz to restart

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> is there actual "proxy" support now? (able to enter 127.0.0.1:9050)

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Yeah but it’s leaky

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Tbh I am going to get a new Android phone for development

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> hm. I want to install in work profile but want to run 2 invizibles

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I got a Samsung A50 it might just be too shit if of a phone

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I’ll probably get a Google pixel 8 and then install graphene :O

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> What OS do you run? I keep hearing this work profile concept

hello everyone

kewbit: work profiles are an android concept

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Android

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Download the app "shelter" from fdroid

<m​e:abdulocra.cy> An alternative is Insular, a free fork of Island

<m​e:abdulocra.cy> Here's a comparison of the two: secure-system.gitlab.io/Insular/faq.html

<b​asses:matrix.org> grapheneos?

<b​asses:matrix.org> Good explanation privacyguides.org/en/os/android-overview/#user-profiles

<b​asses:matrix.org> >Shelter is recommended over Insular and Island as it supports contact search blocking.

<b​asses:matrix.org> yewtu.be/watch?v=20C0FD7mGDY

<b​asses:matrix.org> explains the differences etc

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> On 1 device, yea

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/RhhsqtWnqgcZgzPojPZwfgKB

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Monero users. It's time to redeem your sins

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Seed it

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Let is spread

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> monero.town/post/4220893

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> im watching it in full right now lol

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> its a preety interesting watch

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> yknow what, i'd LOVE to see luke parker comment on that video

<n​ihilist:nowhere.moe> yknow what, i'd LOVE to see luke (kayaba) comment on that video, to get his point of view

<b​asses:matrix.org> sneed and feed

<h​ighwarlok:matrix.org> Somebody ban @blaxdm0 please. This drivel is not needed here.

why is cpu mining not profitable anymore

<n​eromonero1024:monero.social> botnet + market fluctuations

<n​eromonero1024:monero.social> there are other factors, of course... but these 2 are major contributors imo

was it ever profitable?

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> just buy a cluster of Antminer x5's

i dont think

also i dont know its worth to buy miners

because theyre expensive

likely more expensive than my PC

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> it's not

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> roi would be well over 1000 days for an antminer x5

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> and even then you're only making about $5 per day per antminer

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> well

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> $2-$5

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> depends how much your electricity costs really

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> it's 1.35kW

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> at 212 KH/s

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> and from what I can tell it's just a custom server board with a bunch of CPUs on it

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> yeah

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> youtu.be/RkWGbkJjXa8

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> it's just 6 CPUs

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> woah that was weird

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> also they're RISC-V CPUs which is interesting

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> never seen RISC-V in a consumer board before

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> happy to see that tbh

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> for sure

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> open source architecture

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> well

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> open ISA but close enough

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> yeah, Nvidia was going to buy ARM LTD , glad that we have real Competitive hardware market at least for now

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> yeah, Nvidia was going to buy ARM LTD , glad that we have a real Competitive hardware market at least for now

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> well,relatively

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> well, relatively

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> the competitive hardware market be like:

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…ero.social/EbDnIaCBRzCtyMeuBBzeGeyH

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> well with some of the big tech companies like meta shifting away from Nvidia and for server and AI hardware(specially NPU's) is a good start

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> the real turn over was when risc-v foundation relocated to Switzerland from the US

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> which made them capable of holding a summit in china and even russia

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you're probably right

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i just saw an opportunity to post spongebob

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> hi squidward

<c​rispycat:matrix.calitabby.com> if there were more laptops with amd gpus and i didn't need cuda i wouldn't have an nvidia card

<c​rispycat:matrix.calitabby.com> the drivers... they're not as bad as they used to be but damn are they annoying

<c​rispycat:matrix.calitabby.com> debian sid recently got the open drivers (cuda still closed though) and so far they're not too bad

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> Hot take: everything but OISC ISAs are bloated

<c​rispycat:matrix.calitabby.com> though that's on a 4070, can't speak for older chip users

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Hot take: No one know what OISC is

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> One-instruction set computer

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> is that a reference to the `mov` instruction?

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> That’s one type but yeah basically

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-instruction_set_computer

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thats interesting

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thx for sharing

<h​ardhatter:monero.social> :)

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> Which vps would u recommend?

<s​tarlingfarchecker:monero.social> Also is it possible to run a pruned node in a graphene phone

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Kyun.host is cheap and reliable hosting that is fully anonymous and use XMR as its primary payment method. Full discloure: I know the owner

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> depends on the phone model. If you have 128GB of storage then yes it is possible

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> I've also heard good things about servers.guru

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> (who also sell dedis)

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> same, never tried it but heard good things

<n​yx:nyxmr.top> I've never tried either

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I have tried kyun, still have a server but, it gets ddosed

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> only romanian side

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ddos has stopped recently thx to the hard work of Calin from IHostArt

<a​mmortel:monero.social> That chainanalysis guy has to be Rucknium right

<a​mmortel:monero.social> Or I've mistaken

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> rucknium blushed

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> bien joué ammortel

<r​ucknium:monero.social> You can tell because I...I mean he...spent the first five minutes praising Monero's devs and researchers 😁

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Can't compare voice signatures since I used a voice proxy for my MoneroTalk interview on Wednesday 😛

<a​mmortel:monero.social> That is exactly what i thought. And I watched your Interview on Youtube hat I Really liked and I thought that youre both doing stats and stuff

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> oh so you really talked with a voice changer at monero talk? link?

<r​ucknium:monero.social> I hired someone to read aloud my text chat

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> lmao

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Does this link work? yewtu.be/watch?v=fXoiYmrXYJc

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> It works thx

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> it could be a lot better if you had the questions before the talk + pre written answers for them

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> with some extra on point questions to make it more interactive

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Yeah I anticipated some of the questions, but not all. So I was slower to respond on those.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> A real journalist doesn't give their interviewees questions before the interview :)

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> so you hired someone to talk in your place

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> what will you do if they catch that someone instead of you

<r​ucknium:monero.social> I didn't specifically ask for questions before, though

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> so you did hire someone to talk in your place

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> what will you do if they catch that someone instead of you

<r​ucknium:monero.social> I paid them in XMR :D

<a​tori_0xbdc3ab4e:matrix.org> When did this video first leak? x.com/monerobull/status/1831756685968548168

<a​tori_0xbdc3ab4e:matrix.org> Just saw it, fascinating

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> its cool and all but that kid doesnt know that his life is tied to whatever you do in the future

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> because he is a guy who represented you in some point...

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> not nitpicking but kinda risky move, well, he is getting paid after all

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> because he is the guy who represented you in some point...

<b​asses:matrix.org> someone posted clips from the vid, it was a free course on their website

<b​asses:matrix.org> cool researcher

<a​tori_0xbdc3ab4e:matrix.org> Oh I thought somebody leaked it.

<b​asses:matrix.org> Someone should start doing it!

<b​asses:matrix.org> if they want everyone to have financial privacy

<a​tori_0xbdc3ab4e:matrix.org> Well the full video is available

<a​tori_0xbdc3ab4e:matrix.org> At least the part where they show how to trace the tx

<r​ucknium:monero.social> The full video is about 40 minutes AFAIK.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> lemmy.cafe/post/7732306

<b​asses:matrix.org> yes, but it wasn't a leak, they for some stupid reason uploaded the video on their platform since 2023, but the content of the vid is from 2020

<r​ucknium:monero.social> The start of the video has this title slide:

<b​asses:matrix.org> so we are 4 years away from their current tracing methods, but we might actually be 1 year off because they uploaded it in 2023

<r​ucknium:monero.social> > Monero (XMR)

<r​ucknium:monero.social> > IRS Office Hours

<r​ucknium:monero.social> > August 29, 2023

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Their case study was from 2021. I am still not sure if their case study was a real case or a hypothetical one. The presenter starts with "Let's introduce our, sort of, simulation"

<b​asses:matrix.org> so yeah, looks like we are 1 year off probably nothing changed yet, but probably will in the future.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> But near the end of the case study, he was talking like it was a real case.

<b​asses:matrix.org> (their tracing/investigation methods)

<b​asses:matrix.org> yes, said they were investigating the colombia guy

<r​ucknium:monero.social> I worked on the fee non-uniformity problems last year

<r​ucknium:monero.social> github.com/Rucknium/misc-research/tree/main/Monero-Nonstandard-Fees

<r​ucknium:monero.social> reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/176e1z…sory_exodus_desktop_users_update_to

<a​tori_0xbdc3ab4e:matrix.org> From watching the full video it seems like using your own node solves most problems here.

<a​tori_0xbdc3ab4e:matrix.org> And churning maybe.

<r​ucknium:monero.social> The GUI wallet prunes nodes by default now (since the new August release) so that it's easier for noobs to run nodes on their own machines. I suggested that after I evaluated the safety of every node on the network being pruned (It's very safe).

<r​ucknium:monero.social> Appendix B (page 15) here: github.com/Rucknium/misc-research/b…ck-marble-optimal-fee-ring-size.pdf

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> just check if that colombian darknet guy is real or not, if its then we can assume that its not hypothetical situation imo

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> just check if that colombian darknet guy is real or not, if it is then we can assume that its not hypothetical situation imo

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> just check if that colombian darknet guy is real or not, if it is then we can assume that its not an hypothetical situation imo

<r​ucknium:monero.social> And Monero might implement Clover, an alternative to Dandelion++ that protects the privacy of users with closed router/firewall ports better.

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> just check if that colombian darknet guy is real or not, if it is then we can assume that its not a hypothetical situation imo

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> till then, which nodes we should use or verified/not compromised

<b​asses:matrix.org> the excel spread sheet contains transactions info from the darknet

<b​asses:matrix.org> the one you run

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> till then, which nodes we should use or verified/not compromised?

<r​ucknium:monero.social> "When the number of nodes is 681, the probability of not having all 8 pruned node slices is less than 2^-128, which is the probability of guessing a specific 12-word337 BIP39 bitcoin seed phrase with a single guess"

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> what if i cant run one?

<b​asses:matrix.org> or a friend

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> cake wallet?

<b​asses:matrix.org> github.com/feather-wallet/feather/b…ob/master/src/assets/nodes.json#L29

<r​ucknium:monero.social> I have a public node, but the server is not in my physical control

<b​asses:matrix.org> but u can't trust these either not because the people running these are malicious but could be the VPS they are renting are forwarding traffic to FBI then to chainanalysis

<r​ucknium:monero.social> My node is on that list, in clearnet and onion hidden service ^

<b​asses:matrix.org> "lawful interception"

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> its a pain in the ass tbh, at least, they did successfully annoy us

<b​asses:matrix.org> I'm pretty sure the video we have rn is giving them a well deserved hard time ;)

<b​asses:matrix.org> and it isn't like there are no mitigations

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> it might be intentional, for misleading purpose

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> it might be intentional, for misleading purposes

<b​asses:matrix.org> good OPSEC is hard unless you put time in it

<b​asses:matrix.org> nah, they wouldn't have removed every trace of it from the internet

<b​asses:matrix.org> like who tf forces reddit to remove a post that shared a link to their video??/

<b​asses:matrix.org> the video hosting company direct link they used

<a​mmortel:monero.social> Is there an Android wallet to run one's own node on the phone?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> if its for misleading, it is a normal chain of actions

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> upload, make it spread, delete it, boom they fell for it(ofc, its a IF)

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> the good practice for sharing illegal content on reddit is sharing the link in base64 encoded

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> reddit will take more time to take the post down

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> worked for years on r/riprequest

<b​asses:matrix.org> for nintendo firmware

<b​asses:matrix.org> subreddits

<b​asses:matrix.org> but they aint that stupid

<b​asses:matrix.org> nope

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> well there are some potential benefits to it

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> lets say you find few holes/bugs/backdors/... in the target program named:

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> A, B, C, D

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> and you know that they are going to have a big update in a year or so that will change a lot of things

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> what will you do?

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> lets say they are only aware of B and C and they maybe discover A in the update process but D is impossible

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> and with any of the bugs alone, you can achieve your goal, as long as one of them remain and they dont fix the all 4 of them

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> TBH, we knew that they are running their own nodes, or they can track to some extend with enough time and data when you connect to them or if you mess up your OPSEC with how that colombian guy connected to a CEX with his real IP

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> but it took a lot effort and we didnt see any live example in the action, there is nothing new here in that video, they did shift all of our attention to B and C, specially the devs

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> to be honest, we knew that they are running their own nodes, or they can track to some extend with enough time and data when you connect to them or if you mess up your OPSEC with how that colombian guy connected to a CEX with his real IP

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> but it took a lot effort and we didnt see any live example in the action, there is nothing new here in that video, they did shift all of our attention to B and C, specially the devs

<b​asses:matrix.org> it is known that will try to find other ways, not onlt the one shown in the vid

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> they might have already know the other ways, thats why this video drama started(hypothetically)

<b​asses:matrix.org> probably not

<b​asses:matrix.org> the symptoms they are showing is saying otherwise

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> ofc we dont even know if its true or not, because Option D was a bug that we are not aware of so you cant defend against something you dont know, but overall i think it would be better if we focus on potential threats than arguing about known facts that video demonstrated for us

<4​n0nu5er:matrix.org> Hey guys, what happened to the monero mining room?

<4​n0nu5er:matrix.org> Can't find it

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> till then, which nodes we should use or verified/not compromised? <<>> your own

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> your not going to show your trump cards to your enemy do you

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> i think they closed the links because of the ongoing spams

<r​eal_glitch:matrix.org> let alone giving them a full presentation lol

<4​n0nu5er:matrix.org> I see

<4​n0nu5er:matrix.org> I used to be in that room a while ago but didn't find it so I thought they shut it down