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<snowman:tetaneutral.net> Didn’t take long for this guy to go from maxi to trocodor enjooyer
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<snowman:tetaneutral.net> Is i2p actually legitimate alternative to tor
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<jbabb:cypherstack.com> for torrenting last I checked
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<321bob321:monero.social> not if you want to exit easily
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BlueyHealer
snowman, it has slightly different usecases. For Tor, hidden services were kind of a side-effect, while for i2p it was the whole point and outproxies were an afterthought instead. i2p is far more decentralized.
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<nobfg9000:matrix.org> tor is also centralized. tor foundation oversees the relays
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<recanman:kernal.eu> That is such an uninformed claim
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m-relay
<nobfg9000:matrix.org> how so?
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BlueyHealer
Exactly. i2p has some points of failure (iirc it fetches the lists of where to connect from somewhere), but you can mitigate it.
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<nobfg9000:matrix.org> tor is very good if you need to access TCP on the clearnet
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m-relay
<nobfg9000:matrix.org> not so good for pretty much anything else
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BlueyHealer
recanman, it is an exaggeration indeed. But there is an authority that oversees the relays and can remove "misbehaving" ones.
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m-relay
<nobfg9000:matrix.org> I have never gotten i2p to work tho
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BlueyHealer
I did, but I remember being a bit confused about the address books (the default ones were not enough). I absolutely should set up a new VM with it.
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Nick0
Hello
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Nick0
hello chomwitt
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<monerobull:matrix.org> >toy tech that exists mostly on exchanges
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<monerobull:matrix.org> get rekt nano, bhc, dash
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BlueyHealer
I have never seen a place accepting those.
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rbrunner
Just checked travala.com - they accept XNO. But that doesn't mean much, they accept almost any shitcoin, over 100 crypto"currencies" in all :)
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<monerobull:matrix.org> nano is such a mega baggy meme
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<monerobull:matrix.org> you cant tell me that you look at moneros 1/4 of a cent fees and think "yeah the privacy is nice and all but i really need this to be feeless"
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rbrunner
Didn't check for a while - do they finally manage to protect their network against spam now?
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rbrunner
monerobull: Maybe we struggle with a profound lack of understanding of modern consumer psychology: "Whoah? It's free? COOL!!!1!!11!!!"
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BlueyHealer
Monero fees' are like "if its equivalemt falls out of your pocket, you would not even bother picking it up".
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rbrunner
Lol
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m-relay
<mmgen:monero.social> What's not working for you? Setting up and running i2pd is very easy
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BlueyHealer
Yeah, aside from a couple quirks it was indeed very easy.
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remiliascarlet
After a long time, I finally got i2pd working again.
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remiliascarlet
Turned out one server was just being retarded, it would connect over local IP, and all contents on it would work perfectly fine on the public internet too, because it gets forwarded by my relayd server anyway, but connecting to or from the public internet directly to that machine didn't work.
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BlueyHealer
It worked just fine for me, just not at the best speed.
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remiliascarlet
Gave it a different static private IP, and now i2pd works again.
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BlueyHealer
Really considering running it on my VPS for better speed and no startup time - plus, that would mean putting my website there.
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BlueyHealer
remiliascarlet, funny how I went into a fandom I did not expect and now know where your name comes from)
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remiliascarlet
What I would instead recommend is to run everything locally, and only use a VPS as a Wireguard server, to then proxy all your clearnet contents which you host on physical machines at home through it.
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remiliascarlet
BlueyHealer: You mean the Touhou Project?
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remiliascarlet
Hosting clearnet content directly on an VPS is easier to configure, but very costly if you eventually start requiring lots of storage space.
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remiliascarlet
Setting up Wireguard and learning how to forward content via relayd (OpenBSD) or nginx (not OpenBSD) is for sure much harder to learn, but you will learn a lot about networking in return.
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remiliascarlet
You can even learn how to hook your local servers with a NAS via NFS to give yourself virtually unlimited storage at no monthly cost.
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BlueyHealer
I know, I do plan on switching to a local computer for hosting. I just don't have a device I can have on 24/7 yet, and my living arrangements don't allow for it either. But looking for either an SBC or a secondhand fanless thin client indeed.
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BlueyHealer
Also Wireguard stopped working a month ago lol. Checked the censorship map and it is still down, so no point in turning it on.
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remiliascarlet
So Wireguard is censored in Russia?
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BlueyHealer
Yes.
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remiliascarlet
The fuck!
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remiliascarlet
In that case, just going I2P-only might be your best bet long term.
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BlueyHealer
I am using SSH tunnels for everything now, idk if this would be useful for hosting, but anyway I will set up a protocol that masks as TLS.
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remiliascarlet
Because only a matter of time before they start censoring other means of publication (including even Tor).
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remiliascarlet
SSH tunnels sounds like it's going to be very slow.
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BlueyHealer
Maybe OpenVPN plus Cloak, or whatever is in XRay, idk if the latter would work for the setup you described.
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BlueyHealer
SSH tunnels are anything but slow. I watch 1080p Youtube through them and notice no difference.
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remiliascarlet
At least, before I discovered NFS, I used to use SSHFS, and even transferring a 100 KiB file took forever via SSHFS.
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m-relay
<daybreak:nitro.chat> Try outlinevpn too it's a tool by Google that sets up shadowsocks automatically
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BlueyHealer
But yeah, VPS is a temporary solution indeed, I will be moving when I get the right device. I would want a Raspberry but they're expensive :(
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BlueyHealer
Outline - heard of it, but, say, XTLS-Reality seems more robust.
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remiliascarlet
Raspberry is expensive, yes. You could look into clones like PINE64, BananaPi, OrangePi, or whatever other ARM fruit there is out there.
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BlueyHealer
I have quite a few materials downloaded on these, time to reread, especially with the recent news about their budget increases.
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remiliascarlet
I have a PINE64 SBC, and even to this day I can't manage to get the serial pins right to connect to it and set it up.
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BlueyHealer
Yeah, I looked at those. People say the software support mighe be not the best on Banana/Orange.
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BlueyHealer
I was recommended thin clients discarded by offices, but not looked deep into this, and ones I have seen are above $100
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remiliascarlet
It has an HDMI port, except it doesn't work at all.
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remiliascarlet
By thin clients, you mean literally thin clients, or tiny desktops? If it's the latter, definitely take the offer!
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remiliascarlet
Tiny desktops are very easy to repair, upgrade, install whatever you want on them, and they are much lower on power consumption compared to larger desktops, although it does come at the cost of having less performance.
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remiliascarlet
I bought a whole army of those computers off Yahoo Auctions, as well as larger desktops which I intend on repurposing as NAS storages, because SSD's are really goddamn expensive.
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BlueyHealer
IDK exactly.
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BlueyHealer
Probably yes.
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BlueyHealer
Are some fanless?
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remiliascarlet
They do have a fan on top of the CPU.
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remiliascarlet
They all have an Intel CPU, so of course a fan is required.
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BlueyHealer
Ah, I heard there were some fanless "thin clients". I need it fanless and low-power, with 2 GB RAM being overkill.
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remiliascarlet
Most of them came with an i3 or i5 processor, but I upgraded the vast majority of them with an i7 processor of the same generation, since they're surprisingly easy to find at a reasonable price.
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BlueyHealer
You mean the fanless ones are ARM?
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remiliascarlet
ARM is low-power, so they don't need a fan.
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BlueyHealer
Yeah, I would need a low-power one that would also be fanless.
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remiliascarlet
Most RISC processors don't need a fan, with the exceptions of SPARC and PowerPC.
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remiliascarlet
ARM, RISC-V, and MIPS never require a fan.
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BlueyHealer
I just lack such hardware now.
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BlueyHealer
So VPS for hosting it is.
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BlueyHealer
Hope this would change) Raspberry would be ideal because of omnipresent support, but I just don't have money for one :( Maybe would look secondhand.
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remiliascarlet
I really like MIPS for its clean and simple design, but the only relatively "high-end" options you can get are all used in routers.
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remiliascarlet
And the only non-router computers are all from the 1990s.
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remiliascarlet
PowerPC was famously used by Apple up until 2006, but today it's only used in IBM servers. And SPARC is only used in high-end Fujitsu servers.
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BlueyHealer
Wait just looked at it and there is a Raspberry Pi 3 for around $70)
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<mmgen:monero.social> Don't forget Rock PI 4 and Rock PI 5
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BlueyHealer
But not sure I don't want the overhead of 2 gigs of RAM, even if I do manage with 1 just fine now.
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remiliascarlet
BlueyHealer: Which model?
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BlueyHealer
Last time I looked they were either expensive or inaccessible, because I don't remember adding them to my bookmarks.
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BlueyHealer
RPI 3 model B+
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remiliascarlet
I found Raspberry Pi 3 Model B and B+, but both list to have 1 GiB of RAM.
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<mmgen:monero.social> Don't forget Rock Pi 4 and Rock Pi 5, both excellent alternatives to the Raspberry Pi
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remiliascarlet
mmgen:monero.social: I know, no need to repeat yourself.
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BlueyHealer
The PI4-s I have seen are around $90 which would mean a few more months of saving.
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remiliascarlet
The problem with Raspberry is that their official website still displays their gay logo.
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BlueyHealer
remiliascarlet, yeah, I was talking about those, they do indeed have 1 GB. So I was unsure if it would be worth it or I would be better off saving for a while more and getting one extra gig.
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BlueyHealer
remiliascarlet, that sounds like a nitpick.
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remiliascarlet
BlueyHealer: Depends on what you intend on running. If it's just static HTML pages, then the Pi 3 should be more than enough.
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remiliascarlet
But if you want to run WordPress or something, then you might want to save up for the Pi 4.
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BlueyHealer
Although this would be quite a while as well, because my current bedroom has not enough outlets already)
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remiliascarlet
Just get an outlet extender.
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BlueyHealer
I do indeed host static HTML, but also quite a few other services. My VPS runs this all on one gig no problem, but I was wondering if I would want more after a while.
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remiliascarlet
Do you think my home has enough outlets?
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BlueyHealer
It is not a good idea to load an extender noticeably.
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remiliascarlet
Depends on what those other services are, and how many users you have right now.
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BlueyHealer
Wordpress lol. The ones I constantly see in security news.
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remiliascarlet
I have extenders all over the home, since I have 10 times more machines than there are outlets, and they're working with no problems.
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BlueyHealer
Probably 1 gig would be enough, I just know that I will not afford another SBC so unsure. But yeah, for now VPS runs everything I need on 1 gig and with an overhead.
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remiliascarlet
I even run switches all over my home so that I can connect everything to ethernet, and not have anything dependent on WiFi.
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remiliascarlet
WiFi is just for the slaves, I mean for the occasional visitors.
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m-relay
<crispycat:matrix.calitabby.com> the world needs more wires
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m-relay
<crispycat:matrix.calitabby.com> fast, reliable, way more secure
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remiliascarlet
Yes, and the standard doesn't constantly change, and the standard is open.
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remiliascarlet
And less radiation in your home.
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BlueyHealer
Oh yeah, this is another problem. And probably the main one. I cannot use Ethernet here, since that would require getting a cable across common areas. So I would be doing this once I have my own place with my own router.
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BlueyHealer
I do use wi-fi on laptop, but would NOT want this for my server.
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remiliascarlet
Yeah, if you live with parents or something, they might not want that.
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BlueyHealer
Hopefully not for long. And hopefully I would move into an apartment rather than a dorm, which would for sure not allow hosting like this...
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remiliascarlet
The way I set it up is, I run a very short cable from the router to the large switch, which connects to all the servers and NASes, since they're all located in 1 place, then leave 1 port free to run a 10m cable to my workstation area, connect that to another switch, and connect everything else to that same switch, and leave 1 port free to put another 10m cable to run it to my entertainment area
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remiliascarlet
(where my game consoles, media center, and phones are), and connect those to the switch there.
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remiliascarlet
Everything except for my bedroom are in the same room, but the reason for a 10m cable is for flexibility sake. If it's too long, I can roll up one part so it doesn't look too messy. But if you have a cable that's too short, then you need to reconstruct your entire room.
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<karano:poddery.com> Xmr hit 39k transactions within last 24 hrs
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> quickex: wen next poker tourney
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<321bob321:monero.social> Strip?
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<quickex:matrix.org> Probably in 2weeks, wanna discuus it with other project and organize more properly
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<quickex:matrix.org> Make more Blinds increases, connect streaming and ofc make prizes bigger
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<quickex:matrix.org> Probably in 2weeks, wonna discuus it with other project and organize more properly
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Everything worked pretty well
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> main problem was that ppl played like it was fantasy poker. Amateur all in spamming from (probably) multiple alternate accounts
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Need to only allow real users to join. Not jebsjsu12334 + sjdbdjd33442 + sjdbd87772
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> If i was smart, id have setup 4 or 5 different accounts and played against myself
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<monerobull:matrix.org> that is how i play vr poker
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<quickex:matrix.org> players are spreading randomly between tables but yeah, chances become higher
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m-relay
<quickex:matrix.org> actually there were not many of them, i did manual acceptance
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> There must have been at least a few too many
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> I saw a lot of handles that looked super fake
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<quickex:matrix.org> no kyc poker)
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<vostoemisio:matrix.org> quickex: I guess it hasn't to do with you as a company but I got eliminated automatically for being AFK for just 3 hands
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<vostoemisio:matrix.org> quickex: I guess it has nothing to do with you as a company but I got eliminated automatically for being AFK for just 3 hands
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<vostoemisio:matrix.org> I logged in at 20:03 to start but I was already eliminated at that time
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<rottenwheel:kernal.eu> Is there a 5? Wasn't that supposed to be the Quartz one? Where'd I left off? 🤔
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<mmgen:monero.social> Rock Pi 5 came out a long time ago.
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<mmgen:monero.social> I think there's even a 6 on the way
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BlueyHealer
Probably were even more expensive than Raspberries...
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m-relay
<mmgen:monero.social> No
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<mmgen:monero.social>
wiki.radxa.com/Rock5
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<mmgen:monero.social> Maybe
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<mmgen:monero.social> I'm seeing 200 eur on aliexpress
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<mmgen:monero.social> 416 eur for the 32G version
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m-relay
<mmgen:monero.social> I'm seeing 200 eur on aliexpress for the 4G
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BlueyHealer
200 eur is insane for a home server for me. My budget is, like, $60.
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BlueyHealer
well, $70
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m-relay
<hardhatter:monero.social> Someone start a fund for bluey..
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<mmgen:monero.social> Agreed. There used to be inexpensive fanless celeron mini-pcs on aliexpress. You might look into that option
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k4r4b3y
@hardhatter:monero.social kuno.anne.media
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<mmgen:monero.social> 64 eur
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<mmgen:monero.social> 8G RAM, 84 eur
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<mmgen:monero.social> 8G RAM, 128G SSD, 84 eur
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<mmgen:monero.social> I own three of those, they've been very reliable