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<321bob321:monero.social> When will the movie be on vhs?
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<dave.jp:matrix.org> Does ztrash also have something like xmr 10 block conf ?
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geonic
it’s already on a torrent somewhere afaik
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<blurt4949:matrix.org> No, just 1 block. in ZEC the user is responsible for taking on the risk of accepting/spending-from a potentially unsafe transaction with lower confirmations
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<recanman:kernal.eu> Most people are unaware of Zcash's advances. There are some good papers from Zcash research
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<blurt4949:matrix.org> Out of all the poor design choices Zcash has, to its credit, this one is fairly reasonable IMO
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<recanman:kernal.eu> Cryptography-wise
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<recanman:kernal.eu> In terms of the current network infra, no i dea, but lookin STARKS are a field of further study
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<recanman:kernal.eu> In terms of the current network infra, no i dea, but STARKS are a field of further study
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waltz0701
geonic which movie?
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geonic
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> epic mullvad as always
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> here we go lil kevino Go on rant about mullvad
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<rottenwheel:kernal.eu> Where is the pseudo mod yelling off topic off topic!
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> plowsof said #monero was just another offtopic channel
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<rottenwheel:kernal.eu> Who is plowsof?
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> Who are you *Rouepourrite* (french)
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<rottenwheel:kernal.eu> Who is SyntheticBird?
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> alr
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> truth is
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> i'm rottenwheel
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<rottenwheel:kernal.eu> You wish.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> like everyone
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> including ofrnxmr
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<rottenwheel:kernal.eu> Of course. He wouldn't keep my dick in his mouth all the time if it weren't because he's obsessed with me.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> mamma mia
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yubbo
I have some opinions I'm about to let out, mostly flaws with monero (and most if not all cryptocurrency)
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yubbo
irreversible transactions are a double-edged sword at best, see the ccs hack
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yubbo
it's not user friendly at all. I couldn't expect my mother to ever use monero to actually buy anything, let alone keep her wallet secure. heck even the monero dev team has trouble with this (see again the ccs hack)
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plowsof
merchants love that though , as opposed to being in limbo waiting for card payments to clear
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yubbo
PoW is better than PoS, but a proof of useful work would be better (folding@home, gimps, etc)
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k4r4b3y
Irreversible transactions are the name of the game. Radical equality, and responsibility.
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k4r4b3y
Re: your mom: perhaps you can keep her moneros on you, and custody them for her?
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yubbo
if I did that it wouldn't be trustless k4r4b3y
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yubbo
my mom would have to trust me
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k4r4b3y
pick one: irreversibility and trustlessness are at odds.
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k4r4b3y
if monero tx'es were reveersible, you would have to trust someone to not reverse them.
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yubbo
I don't disagree that they're at odds, but that still makes it a flaw/disadvantage compared to a centralized system
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k4r4b3y
centralized system is not trustless either.
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k4r4b3y
What exactly are you searching for?
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yubbo
of course they're not
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yubbo
k4r4b3y, I'm not searching for anything
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yubbo
I'm thinking of things to improve on
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k4r4b3y
alright
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yubbo
I dont think it's realistic to expect mass adoption without fixing some of that stuff
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k4r4b3y
monero's randomx isn't completely useless compute -- think of space heaters and small scale residential solar electricity grid balancing on-demand load.
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plowsof
a warm place for Cat to rest
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k4r4b3y
mass adoption will come in steps. Monero's trustlessness, irreversibility in its transactions, may retard the overnight mass adoption -- but that's fine. People will start accepting and using Monero on their own pace.
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yubbo
k4r4b3y, adoption is stagnant.
bitinfocharts.com/comparison/monero-transactions.html the number of transactions has been stagnant for the past 2 years
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yubbo
the people who want it are already using it
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ofrnxmr
"Of course. He wouldn't keep my dick in his mouth all the time if it weren't because he's obsessed with me." << you wish, rottenwheel
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ofrnxmr
you're the one who asked like 40times for me to call you, used words like "admirable" when speaking to me in with your soft tones
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vthor
Nice to see someone testing out XmrSigner (even it is still an odl version) the latest XmrSigner build
github.com/DiosDelRayo/MoneroSigner/releases/tag/v0.9 (dev image based on PiOS (slow and writeable)) , if people would like to know exactly what im working on, you can track everything on this page:
diosdelrayo.github.io
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vthor
I see, I caused a mess with getting stuck in the rebranding in the middle and also not putting the things more simple... I will do that in the following days. If you are intrested to support me making XmrSigner production ready (working on XmrSigner OS (buildroot v2 based) instead of PiOS, and a quick library instead of wasting 3 min to recover a wallet from a seed), I have a CCS proposal to address this issue here:
repo.
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vthor
getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/495
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<waywardson:matrix.org> my monero node which has https sometimes does a TLS timeout, sometimes it takes a couple seconds for the get_height response
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<waywardson:matrix.org> wondering why
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waltz0701
What would happen if the US gov were to sanction Monero?
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waltz0701
Would we see a tornado cash repeat where they go after the core devs cause the actual project is decentralized?
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waltz0701
just curious about the scenario
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<recanman:kernal.eu> They would probably try to arrest/extradite core developers
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<recanman:kernal.eu> As for the users, not sure. They would probably have to 'give up' their wallets, same way people report XMR to IRS
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<recanman:kernal.eu> ISPs may be told to block traffic that is fingerprinted as node traffic
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<recanman:kernal.eu> Because of US power, it would probably be delisted in many many places, even outside US
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BlueyHealer
They would probably treat Monero devs like they do DNM admins.
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<recanman:kernal.eu> Yeah, think Ross Ulbricht
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BlueyHealer
ye
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waltz0701
Yikes. Not a fun scenario to envision.
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BlueyHealer
And the sad thing is that DNMs either exit gracefully (rare), exit scan or get busted. So there wouldn't really be long-living personas with years of trust built...
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<321bob321:monero.social> To bad i have selsta locked in my basement