<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its not possible to distribute gold to 7b people

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Yes, let's say someone saves over at least five years. Perhaps the first year they just stack fiat, then they maintain that amount of fiat and plow the rest into gold. Overtime their concentration of wealth in gold increases, but they are in a superior position as they are less vulnerable to devaluation via dilution. So gold becomes their point of failure, but holding large amount<clipped message>

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> s of gold is better than large amounts of fiat (if the individual is planning on saving, not spending in the near term).

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Yes, that is the difficulty with land. It is difficult to defend your claim to the land if the gov in the area has a change of heart. Plus it is less liquid and marketable than gold. It is quicker to sell gold coins and at less of a haircut in one-week than to sell land. I don't even think it's possible near my area for a title transfer of land to happen in less than one week.

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> I disagree. It would just take legit full reserve gold warehouses that issued paper claims redeemable on demand. They would charge a fee for storage, transaction processing on books, etc. This could scale and as long as the warehouses were sound then people could redeem claims on Gold for gold units of 1 oz or so once they possess enough claims to equal that amount.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm talking about real gold

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Custodial gold is not real gold

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Might as well use a crypto that is "backed in gold" like usdt is backed in dollars (lol)

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> It is if the institution is sound and not fraudulent.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Like there is such a thing

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Gold can scale to everyone if warehouses issue claims that are just as useful as fiat and can be redeemed at any time. These claims don't bear interest as they are not invested but held in vaults.

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> I thought about doing that as a business idea, but the main challenges would be (1) if the gold held and notes issued by the institution grow large enough then a nearby "gov" would come and shut it down or seize the gold (2) security against smaller scale gangs than the gov could also be costly

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> USDT is not redeemable in practice. And even if it was redeemable for green pieces of paper, in order for redemption to be useful they would have to have offices in various jurisdictions.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> its redeemable

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> usdt is minted with dollars and vice versa (supposedly)

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> # (supposedly)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Tether = the new fed

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Inflating the $ supply

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> It is redeemable only on centralized crypto exchanges (indirectly) or directly with tether if you have stupid high amounts. Yes, tether is actually better in my opinion than some degenerate banks that have riskier balance sheets. But it isn't really what I have in mind about how gold could scale. A better example would be like if Western Union branches had locations in various cou<clipped message>

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> ntries and issued paper claims on gold redeemable at any time and internal book keeping (account to account) transfer of gold by individuals. The key is that people keep the institutions honest and hold them to their full reserve standards

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Tether mints new usdt and redeems usdt directly

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Oh, i didnt read the second half of your first sentence :D

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Yeah I guess you are right, but I'm pretty sure they only redeem for large batch transactions from exchanges for example right

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> gold.tether.to

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Like if you have $4,000 USDT you can't email their support team direct redeem that with a wire transfer haha. but if you have $4,000,000 USDT you might be able to haha

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > You can only redeem Tether Gold (XAU₮) in increments of one full gold bar. So you need to have enough Tether Gold (XAU₮) to receive one full gold bar in order to redeem.

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Yes, I think this is a good idea, but that Tether's business model should be that they charge fees for the service and make it easier for smaller individuals to redeem tether gold for physical coins. But that isn't what is offered to redeem you have to be registered, vetted, and have a stupid amount of gold claims. What I envision would be similar, but with branches across the glo<clipped message>

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> be where redemption could happen down to the level of 1 ounce coins. But maybe tether's model will improve if tether gold gains traction.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Tether doesnt store gold crumbs

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They store bars

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> So you can only redeem 1 bar at a time

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Yeah it is a great idea in my opinion. The problem from what I remember when I read their website is that it isn't as easy to transact with other people who want to receive tether gold as it is to send someone USDT. Also one good delivery bar is a lot of gold. And even if you did redeem it would be risky and expensive for them to send it across the globe, because they don't have an office there.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Minimum* 1 bar

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It should be the same thing, just need a crypto wallet that supports xaut

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The redeem issue and 1 bar is a gold problem, not a tether problem

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Yes, and I kind of see their point. They aren't all that ideologically motivated and probably for practical reasons one good delivery bar makes sense presently. But imagine if tether had offices abroad and they could lower the redemption amount down to 1 ounce coins. That would be very useful to average folks that aren't millionaires.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Cant expect them to store 1 ounce bars or coins

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 1 ounce coins are expensive to produce

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Which are why they cost more than spot

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Why not? it isn't that much more cumbersome. Plus it is easier to authenticate some gold coins when compared to london good bars in my opinion.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It is much more cumbersome. Need to verify many more pieces

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> correct, but they could also charge more for redemptions of smaller denominations to cover the additional cost.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Making gold / silver coins isnt a cheap process when you have to guarantee purity

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They arent a bullion dealer. Xaut is the same as a gold backed fiat

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You couldnt just go to the bank for fort knox and ask for 1oz

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Not really. You have a sufficiently sophisticated scanner and only deal with coins with the best security features, such as maple leafs, american eagles etc

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> There are a lot of those that are fake

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> when it comes to silver, maple leafs have a higher purity than american eagles

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Yes, it should be the same thing, but for some reason I remember that less wallets support xaut and that for some reason transaction fees were higher (I don't remember why though). I could be wrong about that though and that it is just as easy to transact with as USDT

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It should he the same. Its just another erc20 token

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > Note: The minimum purchasing amount to purchase XAU₮ from TG Commodities Limited is 50 XAU₮ or 50 fine troy ounces. Users can also acquire XAU₮ on trading platforms that have listed XAU₮.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > Tether Gold token (XAU₮) is a digital asset offered by TG Commodities Limited. One XAU₮ represents ownership of one fine troy ounce of gold on a gold bar that meets the LBMA’s Good Delivery standard.

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> maple leaves have the most security features, and sure there are probably still some attempted counterfeits but by having a high quality scanner and only dealing with the coins with the highest quality security features would be sufficient. Anyways I think we are probably arguing over peanuts here. Even in their current system though the problem would be redeeming a london good ba<clipped message>

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> r on the other side of the world. It wouldn't work unless tether had a branch on the otherside of the world

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> shipping london good bars at a retail level internationally seems sketchy haha

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > Important: U.S. persons are prohibited from purchasing or redeeming XAU₮ and should carefully read Tether's Terms of Service before beginning the verification process.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> American eagles look better

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Maybe, so but I think maple leaves have slightly better security and are 99.99% pure, where as eagles have a little bit of copper or something too (which does help prevent scratches and damage to the coin, but makes the entire coin not pure gold)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > Tether Gold token (XAU₮) is currently available as an ERC-20 token on the Ethereum blockchain.

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> But anyways, I don't think gold or monero are going to gain widespread acceptance as currency in the short term for different reasons. I do think it could be prudent to have some of both though for the store of value component. Fiat isn't such a bad medium of exchange, but store of value for fiat is not good.

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Gold and Monero are money-like (making them readily marketable) and good stores of value, but they are not the dominant media of exchange and they aren't nearly as liquid as fiat. Almost everyone accepts fiat, giving it near the maximum possible marketability. The more widely Monero or Gold are accepted the more power they gain (network effects)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I think if we fixed monero's issues we could go full steam ahead with adoption

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Fcmp, faster verification, payment channels, encrypted traffic,

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> I agree, those things would help. But I think the main issue is the chicken and egg network effect, as well as volatility of price relative to USD. A lot of businesses that operate on tight margins may not be able to take the risk of accepting Monero and holding it for longer than momentarily

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> And normies still probably think there is a fair chance that the government will ban it if it does start to become popular. It's mostly about people's perceptions and price volatility rather than technical issues with Monero itself

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Eh, I think more that it is harder to acquire

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> That too. But why would they want to acquire it in the first place? I think the first issue is merchant acceptance. But merchant's are hesitant for the reasons I described above

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Yeah

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> It isn't accepted in enough places and it is harder to acquire

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> We cant even want it to be acquired until the issues are fixed

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Nobody could've used Bitcoin for much of anything till Silk Road, then more people started to accept it and that started everything. At least that is my take

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> The underlying privacy features itself: it 'just werks' for now

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> The underlying privacy features: it 'just werks' for now

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Sure FCMP is a better option but it isn't top priority for adoption

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Without merchant adoption crypto doesn't have a use case

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Even if monero can be used in its current form, its not viable

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Fcmp makes things like oayment channels possible

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> You're right, forgot about that

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> The issues with verification times and syncing I guess have a role

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> fcmp, iirc, has smaller tx for consolidations

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Why are you so critical of Monero in its current form ofrn? To me the three things that make Monero distinct from all other cryptos are (1) confidential transactions but this didn't come till 3 to 4 years after launch (2) open mining via 1 CPU 1 vote ethos (3) tail emission

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Because it sucks lolol

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Confidential transactions being implemented and succesful is a huge breakthrough in digital currency in general. For the first time in history you could trustlessly transact where only you and the recipient know the size of the transaction. That was huge

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> In what way?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> its the best we have but its so fsr from a 1.0 its not funny

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Monero has had RingCT for a while lol

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Yeah, but took a while after launch to get it. Not blaming anyone. Just saying Monero wasn't all that different from BTC in the early days. The privacy of ring sigs without RingCT was meh

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I get what you're saying

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Dynamic blocksize is a big feature too

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> yeah, and since then what have we done

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> BUMP DA RINF SIZE MON

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Advancement is there, albeit very slowly

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Haha yep

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Ship sarang off to another project

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Lots of delays, issues with funding. As expected. We'll get there I guess

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Well I wouldn't be too harsh on Monero's Researchers and Developers they are still very good IMO. Monero users are fortunate that such people are dedicating their labor to improving it

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Sarang still helping some now though. And Firo is not a serious competitor

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> They all left lol

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Well maybe they left for good reasons. It's not my place to judge them.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Fluff got arrested and monero became scam central for 6 yrs lol

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> How so regarding scam central?

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Devs doing busywork for yrs instead if improving anything

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Like xmr mj and his 2yrs of fake dev work

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> our devs today actually do meaningful work

<d​ave.jp:matrix.org> Didn’t he work ? Just most of it was unrelated to xmr directly

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yeah, to start aeon etc? Lol

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> He didnt fix a single bug in 2yrs

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Scammer

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Great with getting community to vote for his ccs, but he was trash

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Other devs were unwilling to get into drama with him about his lack of any real work

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Yeah I think that is on the donors though. They need to be more careful which ccs' they donate to

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> He literally exitscammed his last 2 ccs

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Solopt still unfinished, mj paid in full

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> His last dev report he billed for zhitposting on reviews and renaming Github to GitHub

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And 13hrs attending meetibfs

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Like 4hrs setting up dev environment

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Guys a scammer who literally did nothing

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> And after he was exposed , he threatened to sue us

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> He also threatened to shoot me but thats beside the point. Guy was worthless and hes only 1 dev who was larping to the communjty and making a mockery out of ccs

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Maybe so but Monero still number 1 crypto currency. Dogecoin has tail emission. BTC has most eyeballs and first mover. Z cash has alternate privacy tech. and now Andrei launched zano which is private smart contracts. These are Monero's competitors but they all still fall short

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> which is why we now have a ccs coordinator

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> I wonder how Z cash verification time and transaction size for fully shielded will compare to FCMP++ transactions. They are the biggest competitor in terms of privacy.

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Lol,

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> But don't have adoption, culture, or tail emission. so z cash is at a disadvantage

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> You seem to be making many generalizations here

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> What are the problem's why my points?

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Too busy to discuss, sorry

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> I don't disagree with you

<r​ecanman:kernal.eu> Although your statements are quite vague

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Yeah it is just quick broad-sweeping generalizations regarding the competition that Monero faces. Fiat and Gold are Monero's final bosses. If Monero continues to be the best crypto-currency for "real" merchants then that is what matters short term.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Maybe you mean zksnarks is the most well known alternative for crypto privacy

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Zcash as as a coin is terribly designed, as a project can never be money

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Agree with terrible design and many problems with the culture from launch and before launch

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Yes, that is what I mean. Their implementation is competition, but I think a lot would have to happen for them to succeed (I think near impossible). I'm surprised we haven't really seen any crypto-currencies implement tail emission since Monero's inception. It is a way better security model for hashrate. Good engineering and design

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> I'm still waiting for the day that we get the Peter Todd hardfork of BTC to implement tail emission. He is playing 4D chess and getting the idea out there now that way he will have some people who agree when the time comes

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Doge

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Peter todd is a fed plant, good luck woth him actually _doing_ anything to better btc

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Peter todd is a super fed

<f​r33_yourself:monero.social> Even if Peter Todd is a fed, he at least has the sense to recognize that Tail Emission is better than a capped supply.

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> they all do

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Bitcoin created confidential transactions and even silent payments, remember

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> doesnt make them honest people who actually care

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Markets is broken so i'll post here: btc hit new ath. I wonder if monero will win the election

<u​mask777:decred.org> not a strong break tho, few hundred above previous at the same volume levels

<u​mask777:decred.org> if zcash or any corpo coin ever "succeeded" (w/e that means) then the government would probably nationalize the corporate entity

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Yea, but whole market up 10%

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Still below atm for total crypto cap

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> 2.6T vs 2.4T

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Nvm it hit 3T in 2021

<u​mask777:decred.org> weak fakeout, might be an indicator the results will go blue

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> So I have been working on an 'alternate' network with much cheaper fees since I saw @vik's , it's out now on mainnet but should require some testing, if anyone wants to help?

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> haveno-aloha.com

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Hello

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Where to join the matrix.monero.social

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Or how to join

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> It says registration disabled

<u​mask777:decred.org> well it was not an indicator, now will BTC clear 75K or is it still a weak fakeout lol

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Where/how to join the matrix.monero.social

b​enraouan, you already registred trough matrix.org and can join channels on monero.social

b​enraouane* registered* through* srry can't type properly xD

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<k​evino:tchncs.de> wtf usdt 😨

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Yes registration has been disabled due to spammers. The guide on getmonero.org needs to be updated. cc: ofrnxmr HardenedSteel

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It was updated

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I hate you

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Updated to show what?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I love you

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> afair this guide told people to join monero.social but they can't since the registration is disabled

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/join-monero-matrix.html

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Still does

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> well then update it

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> since we can't register to it anymore

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Reg disabled and invite-only rooms arent a solution

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I understand if they are temporary (few hrs), but the restrictions stay up for literal weeks

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> So imo the guide doesnt need to be updated, but registration needs to be reopened

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> And the server needs to be fixed 🥲

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> So imo its called laziness

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> because both can happen at the same time and it helps the users even if it is in the course of a few weeks

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bruh, it takes weeks to deploy the website

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> valid argument

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Editing the guide to say "reg is disabled" === you'd have to plan weeks in advance to revert it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The laziness is setting rooms to invite-only when we have literally 1 spammer to deal with4

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I had to fight to have monero-support reverted to allow users

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> #monero have 500 ppl, monero's simplex has 1000

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> #monero have 500 ppl.. edit: 1275, monero's simplex has 1000

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Tldr- grow some balls and take it front on

<b​b3883:matrix.org> i need someone to send me litecoin for monero, just $10

<b​b3883:matrix.org> i don’t wanna go thru an exchange for a small transaction

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<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Concerning the ccs, how to setup my address or where to put my address to receive funds if I'm eligible?

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Concerning the ccs, how to setup my address or where to put my address to receive funds if the idea is eligible?

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<k​evino:tchncs.de> you'll likely get scammed if you do this , no one will be resonsible

<k​evino:tchncs.de> try trocador.app

<k​evino:tchncs.de> you'll likely get scammed if you do this , no one will be resonsible here

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Trevino likes kevino

lol, hope the spammers have poor OPSEC

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> I feel the same

<k​evino:tchncs.de> was that my troller xD

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Hi, what do you mean by this

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> > As I think the monero-wallet-rpc package (I've tried before) does not gives you the real time balance, & does not contain sync function, the sync itself requires a service & a server.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You're famous now

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> When you call the balance function, it does not return the actual balance (you not see the real balance if you already receive/send XMR, via a recent transaction)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> yes it does . . .

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Call `refresh` first. Auto_refresh is every 20sec iirc

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> It may new version/update

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> submitting txkeys to a public block explorer, especially one as targetteted as localmonero or xmrchain, is both terrible for privacy and terribly centralized

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Trusting an explorers view on the mempool is bad practice, especially for a merchant

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Merchants _should_ run nodes to help validate that transactions actually propagated the network

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> trusting an explorer to validate a transaction is wrong. Thats what wallets are for. Using a remote node is less than ideal, using an explorer running on an unknown node of a service that went out of biz due to reason a b c, is definitely even worse

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Rino closed doors. xmrchain's operator is famous for having his node MITM'd to track users, localmonero closed doors during regulatory pressures. You cannot trust these services to a) stay online b) provide a secure experience c) provide a privacy preserving experiencen

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Both I can achieve, I'm already did what you're talking about (the actual one),

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Nobody should have to share their txproof / txkeys

ok so because of monero-project/monero #8819 you have to close your proposal benraouane

there are technical issues with transaction proofs. merchants can not trust ONLY them

we can update the docs on this ofrnxmr

i have an issue on site, forgot to migrate it sorry

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You'd better be sorry..

only took me a day or 2 to remember.... where am i

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> What to do with the transaction key?!!!

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Regular/standards crypto payments gateways uses the explorers, for better experience

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Regular/standards crypto payments gateways uses the explorers, for better experience

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Nothing. You dont need it

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Centralizes, transparent coins that don't do things in a secure manner / rely on trusting someones mempool

<d​ave.jp:matrix.org> So does monero when using remote nodes of 3rd party

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ^

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ^

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Merchants should never rely on a "popular" remote node, preferring to run their own fully-private node.

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Good news, we have generous sponsors, that means haveno-aloha.com we now be completely fee free!

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> markus, can you fix your commits

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its giving me goosebumps

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Readme update

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Readme update

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> back to back

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Squash that 😆. Push clean commits and make the aloha mods a 1 commit patch

I love competition

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> More updates following shortly!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> wasnt it free beforeß

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> wasnt it free before?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Maybe you dont understand what i'm saying

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Was 0.3%

<m​onerobull:monero.social> HUH

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Aloha as a lot more to offer and we are VERY excited to share it

<m​onerobull:monero.social> didnt they advertise 0% fee

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> We received a sponsor, we have no reason to charge.

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> The next update will be fee free, thanks to our generous sponsor from this community.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Markus, enough of the marketong style shilling

Free++ as in beer

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Fix your commits so i can stop cringing

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> markus why should i use your network vs reto where i have many completed trades and aged accounts already

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I'm abt to fork your repo and do it myself so i can sleep well

Please contact monerobull if you want a pinned reddit post

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> You bet!

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> You don't need you use Aloha, you can use any network.

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> We just offer it for free

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i didnt say need, i said why should i use it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> reto offers it for free as well

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Another way is to run single node for all merchants, but still requires the transaction key to see the amount transacted

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> that was a selling point about 6 hours ago

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Sorry perhaps I misunderstood

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No it doesnt req a key

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Reto offers 0.6% I believe

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> it requires a wallet 😆

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> We offer 0%

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> not after the next update

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> as of today

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> + more which I am excited to share

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> & more which I am excited to share

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/TFMkPCLuSAvEiILtQcRMhuQm

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> What is the Deposit amount

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> reto is also excited to share things

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> That's good, but it requires the private key of the merchants, no?

I wonder if any cimpeting networks would use marketing budget to subsidise crypto trades / or give x % back in xmr for 24 hours

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Wow

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> I saw you working in it cause we scan the forks daily 😂

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> Markus:

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> So is @monero

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Reto didn't say "were excited to announce ..."

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> @monero is the king of being excited to share things

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> I'm glad this has prompted you to be feeless too, everyone wins!

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> What a great day to be a alive :D

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> bro nobody gonna use your network

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i cant even check github to see if you added malware

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> because the repo is so fucked up

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> No one needs to, my goal was to bring the fee's down.

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> thanks for that, ill enjoy the 0% reto fees lol

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Set the bar, if you will! In good ol' community spirit!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but for real, whats your plan now?

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> That would be telling!

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> What are your fee's currently 0.6% I can see

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i am not reto

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> 2% penalty, ouch

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i am merely a shill

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Oh?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> At this point I'm convinced the twitter team is just doing it to piss you off specifically

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> last time i checked your repo it had 2% penalty as well

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> plot twist: i am the twitter team

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (/s)

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Oh I know who you are, you're the mod on reddit who's being paid off to both silence and push agendas of your choosing, I've seen you coment on almost every reddit post. Are you sure there isn't an reddit rule againt that?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you're talking to me?

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Guys I'm still didn't found a solution, if an idea were submitted & merged (accepted) where to put my address for the donations if any?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> plowsof answered you, it's done automatically

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> To Monerobull

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> lol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The-Aloha-Project/haveno-aloha 4f30e36

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Wtf is this

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> im sorry but i am literally paid to keep my finger on the pulse of the community through a CCS proposal

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/xyzdVRmaHPrpJgSPIzpuCeYf

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and im not lying

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I have access to the queue, monerobull might be a haveno supremacist he do not silence, or push any agenda

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> idk wtf you are on about

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> basically gaslighting

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> "2%, ouch"

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 1980 files changed

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> yeah right

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Then I'll receive mnemonic phrase of the wallet that hold the donations?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> 🤡

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> mhm. You seems to be confused about how CCS works. You only receive funds once you accomplished the milestones you have defined in your CCS proposal. In no point in time do you have access to the wallet that receive donations

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> its held in escrow

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> haveno-clowntown

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> also

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> You push updates, then CCS coordinator will make a transaction to an address that you will communicate in your update comment

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> K can we stop fighting and answer the important qs

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> with the amount of XMR settle by your proposal and accepted by the coordinator and in idea the community

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> no this is fun

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> We will see later on when Aloha is published on Reddit.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ^^^ 1980 files changed? tf ia this diff

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> For our official launch!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> imma shred you in the comments if you dare

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> you could just also just say: "please guys can you approve my reddit post". we're not on the queue 24/7. don't call someone having a life, censorship

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> I know you will, because you're being paid to

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> but i wont fucking censor you, thats like, a core believe of mine that you dont do that

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> clown

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Okey, now I've understand, even I see the idea is funded in the funding required?

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> It makes sense that you would

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> sure

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> dont publish that shit til he answers what that 2000 file diff is

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Held in escrow

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Sorry I don't understand.

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Great, thank you!

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Markus, answer pls

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The-Aloha-Project/haveno-aloha 4f30e36

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> what is this

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> no bro let the post go and then let me post a comment about that 2000 file diff

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Can you be more specific ofrnxmr , not following

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> + its behavior in matrix chat

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> hhahahhahahahaha

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (laughing with syn)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The-Aloha-Project/haveno-aloha 4f30e36

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> there are 1980 files changed in this commit

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> btw Benraouane Soufiane you are better discussing CCS in this channel that is dedicated to it: #monero-community:monero.social

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> If you cant join I can invite you

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> malware maybe

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> either this is a terrible mistake, or you totally modifies the codebase for reasons unknown

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Even the idea already funded in the 'funding required' section, I can't access to that money else after completing the milestones, isn't it?

Your proposal will never be merged to funding

Ill just be blunt to not waste your time

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> someone who knows git, could this be malware?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ofrnxmr: monerobull he hasn't change the source code. only made a `chmod -R 755 repository/`

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> the permission just changed from 644 to 755

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok and why would you do that

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> probably a mistake from its part but its not a sign of malware lmao

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Yes, I can't, can you invite me please!

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Exactly yes

Thanks syn

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> just invited you

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they should just delete the repo and start over

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Or just do `chmod -R 644 repository/`

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> You can throw all your cards of machiavellianism, but ultimately the truth always wins.

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Received, thank you!

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> It's simple as it is, just a free network, to trade monero.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Jia Tan tier explanation

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> It's just a test file guys, for me compression library

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> This was a good reaction to capture though

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Also, if you check the project, Aloha started way before Reto ;)

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> what

You are lucky we have reddit mods so excited about haveno networks!

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> elaborate

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> Who? Me?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i really want to know what you are getting at

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Months before actually

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> ok show me

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> how

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> wait haha

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> reto launched 2 days after haveno docs came out

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> MONTHS?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> YEAH LMAO

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> how are you claiming "months before"

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> HAHAHAHAHAHA

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Simple check the repo dates

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Yeah why did they 755 it

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/hktKJjmWedQBTdHDwWLVzHTb

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> where

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> don't know, could also just be a mistake => chmod recursive on a higher folder

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> i also dont like how you took out woodsers dono address, reto didnt touch it

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Your latest commit was 4 days ago

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> what are you on about

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Your oldest commit was 4 days ago

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> extremely sus indeed

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> I still not understand why

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> The community will decide, ultimately. In fact, based on your comment, we could hire a security expert to perhaps both review Reto and Aloha together?

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> We would fund 50% of the cost in fact

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> That could help put everyones mind at rest here, or might it reveal something about reto?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> He left a comment

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> 58 minuters ago

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> I'm not sure, but if you would like to contribute 50% to an audit of both codebases the offer is on the table.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> This type of behavior is why I'll blender you in the comment section of your reddit post

<m​onerobull:monero.social> I can audit the reto code myself it's so few changes

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> \+ can we have a *security expert??* bro you know nothing, done nothing, lies out of the gate

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> I have got some work to get back to on haveno-aloha.com for now but will check in on Reddit later.

<m​onerobull:monero.social> I can't audit yours because if your fucked up repo

While I have no stake in the outcome I think we all need to focus on why we are all here

to make monero better

lets be collaborative and not divisive

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> "2024-08-11T17:45:31Z" create date of the haveno-aloha repo

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> BoBeR182 I was like that 1 year ago then a bunch of people spawned in and started talking about freedom and truth and delusional things that justify their aggressive and toxic behavior.

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> He's offline!!!

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> curl api.github.com/repos/The-Aloha-Project/haveno-aloha | jq '.created_at'

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/c…als/-/merge_requests/514#note_27084

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> oh look I've forked Haveno repository under my name then moved it to my organization latter on and now say that I was going to open the network months before

So we should give up, and join them? never attribute malice to ignorance/inexperience

<b​enraouane:matrix.org> No, I mean the user

lets assume we give everyone the benefit of the doubt

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> haveno reto repo created at "2024-05-14T12:36:25Z"

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> why would you need plowsof to be online? just respond to its comment on repo.getmonero.org

and work in good faith people here want monero to succeed unless shown overwhelmingly otherwise

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> BoBeR182 i love you, please stay like that, this positivism give me hope

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> sorry, this is my matrix account, you can not DM IRC peoples from matrix

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 0001-Aloha.patch

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Markus please drop all of your commits and add patch as new commit 😭

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> at first glance the diff are valid

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> I guarantee, the community will see through all the corruption when your income is threatened by a peacekeeper.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> *oh my god I'm being discriminated for telling the truth please you'll pay for your tyrannic behavior*

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> fuck around and find out

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bro, you commited 2000 files

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> It's stange that you are attempting to share patches in chat with 1500 people.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Fix your shit

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Everyone is going to find out one way or another

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> LMAO

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> So just let it happen, respond like kids.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> What do i care how many ppl are here?

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Throw your toys out of the pram for a loss of fees

<b​b3883:matrix.org> i’m satoshi.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ill open a pr and take all the cred then

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> it's strange that you are just doing my job by cleaning the permission change so that 1500 people can audit my repo*

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> fixed the sentence

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> The ones defending reto are running it, if that wasn't already made clear.

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Boldsuck, Monerobull, Rottlewheel etc

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Rottle hhhaha

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> All taking your fee's, and for what? All of woodsers work.

<b​b3883:matrix.org> guysss, did u not hear me? i’m satoshi nokimotototoyo

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Went from *monerobull is censoring people* -> *you are trying to silence aloha* -> *reto team is tyrannic and corruption*

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Take meds

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> There is no way

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> can i have an ed25519 curve point as an autograph

<b​b3883:matrix.org> 🙄

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> I'm setting the bar, and you're taking it, period :)

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> You have no control

<b​b3883:matrix.org> sure

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Markus, give me maintainer perms on your repo so i can fix it

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> It will be free

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You set bar at 1800 files changed frfr

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> These privileges must be earner by trusted community members.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Now shutuo and fix repo, or invite me to be maintainer and ill fix it for you

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I am the most trusted, dumbdumb

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> That's has no bearing to any position you've managed to aquire

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I have so much to say

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Please, the praise away

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Flattery will get you nowhere ❤️

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> BasicSwapDEX, is a fairly largely funded project, so I would consider having you as a maintainer.

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> The does give you some credibility.

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> That does give you some credibility.

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> This is good for federation btw

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> If there are more than one network

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Any distrust that ppl have for me is born out of fear. I've never done anything (in monero) that wasn't in good faith.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> yes i was excited about aloha until he spawn and start being aggressive against monerobull and call reto team as being dictatorial

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Kewbit, care to look over my patch? I'll push it to my repo

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> i have no respect for people building their credibility upon destroying another one

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> ofrnxmr: is a good guy

<b​b3883:matrix.org> u actually make modifications to the monero blockchain or what

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> my main issue is that the repo is messed up

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> I appreciate you probably said this, while uninformed. But this was very much started by Monerobull.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> enligh me

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> enlight me

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> I came to this chat with my cockail a hula necklace on, offering free trade, imagine how it looks when someone has something bad to say about that right off the bat?

<k​ewbit:matrix.org> You can’t argue that lol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> github.com/haveno-dex/haveno/compare/master...nahuhh:haveno:pr/aloha

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> what did monerobull said exactly?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> kewbit.org Markus

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> I fail to see what you're referring to

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Unless you have a genuine claim that you can articulate, please go ahead.

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> This is after all, open source, you're welcome to make a pull request if you see error.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Me?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The link i sent is the fix

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> github.com/haveno-dex/haveno/compar…e-Aloha-Project:haveno-aloha:master

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> heres your messy af work. (W/o fix)

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Enough of this talk :)

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> It's quite childish from respected / influenced members.

<m​onerobull:monero.social> Rotten, when do we exit scam?

<m​onerobull:monero.social> Why did you remove woodsers donation address and replaced it with your own?

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Now would be the best time

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> lol

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> A new party coming to town

<m​onerobull:monero.social> No it's not, it theoretically splinters liquidity, not that I think aloha will have any

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Woodser is not associated with any network

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> None of the dev team is

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> The have requested not to be and I respect that request

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Next question!

<m​onerobull:monero.social> Haha ok what a copout

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Any more digs before I continue releasing Aloha with zero fees?

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Or am I OK to continue work?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> lol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ??

lol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> bad: github.com/haveno-dex/haveno/compar…e-Aloha-Project:haveno-aloha:master

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> good: github.com/haveno-dex/haveno/compare/master...nahuhh:haveno:pr/aloha

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> lmao

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> they got forked off before they ever started

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> This is not a dig. I literally spent my own time to fix your mistakes

<b​b3883:matrix.org> am i in the dev team?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> and the fork is a massive improvement

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> No. Not til u fix repo

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Highlight this for people and stop with the obscurity.

<b​b3883:matrix.org> yea buddy, that repo is hideous

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> bad: github.com/haveno-dex/haveno/compar…e-Aloha-Project:haveno-aloha:master

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> good: github.com/haveno-dex/haveno/compare/master...nahuhh:haveno:pr/aloha

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> read slowly smh

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> YOU are the one with a totally obscured repo

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> 2000 files lmao

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Both of these links achieve the same conclusion. One of them is 2000 files edited and 10 messy commits

<b​b3883:matrix.org> sorry guys, i’m going to rest now, but i’ll give my opinion on both repos tomorrow

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> The other is me cleaning up for you

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Thanks boss

<b​b3883:matrix.org> no problem!

jefe

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> That would be appreciated

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Take care

<b​b3883:matrix.org> you too!

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> How about it mark? Give me maintainer so i can fix your repo

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> I'll see you on Reddit in a few hours, I'm I do hope the Moderators play fair. monerobull SyntheticBird more specifically :) Anyway, A hui kaua, or should I say, Aloha!

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> I'll see you on Reddit in a few hours, I I do hope the Moderators play fair. monerobull SyntheticBird more specifically :) Anyway, A hui kaua, or should I say, Aloha!

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> I'll see you on Reddit in a few hours, I do hope the Moderators play fair. monerobull SyntheticBird more specifically :) Anyway, A hui kaua, or should I say, Aloha!

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Otherwise i have to guide you through the process of fixing it, and thats going to take too much energy

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> I am open to that

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Keep me a while to study your track record more, but I think it should be fine.

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Give me a while to study your track record more, but I think it should be fine.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Ok, how much i getting paid tho 🧐.

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> Open a chat with me please

<a​lohamarkus:matrix.org> It's not paid, it's community contribution, the donor has provided funds only for the servers, but I can talk with them.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I did contribute the fixes already

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Both in patch form and a link to the repo where i uploaded the fix

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> We will follow the subreddit rules, don't worry

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> I hope you don't have a brand new account created via tor because those usually get automatically filtered to prevent spam. Keep that in mind before you scream censorship

<k​evino:tchncs.de> what is the security deposit percentage in aloha ? sorry i skipped through all the discussion

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> I hope zero as well

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> That would set them apart from reto

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> monerobull are you on SimpleX ?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Yes

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ok

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You can find mbll in the monero room list

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> What?

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> I don't think I'm in there

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> Oh for the monero room

<m​onerobull:matrix.org> I thought there's a mbll room lol

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Haha

<3​21bob321:monero.social> #thanksmbll_room

<s​iren:kernal.eu> #voteofrn #thanksmbll