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<lza_menace:monero.social> similar to this
github.com/unyieldinggrace/monerod-proxy
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> This might be one of them
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<lza_menace:monero.social> yeah, i want that, but i was implementing my own because i didn't like how it was implemented. it just uses a single node for all syncing.
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Try turning off ssl?
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> might be an issue with switching nodes w/o a disconnect/reconnect
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Since each node is different, i doubt it will seamlessly switch w/o a disconnect
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Tob or dsc might know more as well, since wowket/feather handle multiple nodes
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<lza_menace:monero.social> i'll keep tinkering with it. im very close
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> tob, dsc, Siren gingeropolous or chainalysis :P might know
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<siren:kernal.eu> It probably makes sense to use a single node until the connection to that node fails.
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<siren:kernal.eu> I'm guessing the disconnect is caused by different nodes not being synced equally since the disconnect happens at /getblocks.bin but why it specifically happens after the third request, no idea
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<lza_menace:monero.social> happens if i keep with the same node as well. must be in my implementation. im writing c++ and honestly don't know what im doing
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Maybe rpc ban
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> You can try with a node that you control and add --disable-rpc-ban to the node. May or may not prove to be an issue/solution
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<lza_menace:monero.social> i fixed it. i wasn't closing a socket connection so i guess shit was just being wonky
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<lza_menace:monero.social> i
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<lza_menace:monero.social> i'll post a repo later
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<geheerte:matrix.org> X-tra Massive Rear-end 🤣🫡
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Share w mrl probably
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (remember, we have that lil problem with spy rpc proxy nodes)
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<terracotaburger:unredacted.org> hello
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<terracotaburger:unredacted.org> how can i contact xmr devs in private
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<terracotaburger:unredacted.org> its urgent
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<elongated:matrix.org> Regarding?
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<terracotaburger:unredacted.org> i cant tell
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<terracotaburger:unredacted.org> but it is very important
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<elongated:matrix.org> Vulnerability ?
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<terracotaburger:unredacted.org> its linked to a vulnerability
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<terracotaburger:unredacted.org> but that is for signaling a vulnerability
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<terracotaburger:unredacted.org> its more complicated i need to talk in private
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<pearl:matrix.pearl.boston> i mean. if you really are serious there's [#monero-dev](
matrix.to/#/#monero-dev:monero.social)
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<pearl:matrix.pearl.boston> i'm sure you can find moo or luigi there or on irc
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<terracotaburger:unredacted.org> but i am not reporting a vulnerability
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<imprevisto:matrix.org> it's C++ there's got to be something
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<terracotaburger:unredacted.org> its linked to one
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<321bob321:monero.social> Asl
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<kevino:tchncs.de> Are the new libraries ready yet ? What repo will it be uploaded on
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<mayhem69:matrix.org> I did porn credit card processing for adult entertainment companies/website for over 10 years including PH (over 5 years ago), not sure how they are accepting payments now but we used tons of sub corps with lots of different banks and the descriptor that shows up on your CC would never be pornhub or the name of the site, it would be something non-descript like COMPANY LLC 123 so i<clipped message>
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<mayhem69:matrix.org> t wouldn't be a problem. one account goes down, we have 40+ more. Im assuming they are still doing something similar with regards to the descriptor that shows up on your CC.
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<mayhem69:matrix.org> Plus most porn buyers are dumb and putting extra steps in the way or requiring any tech skills at all would drive down conversions and cost 100k's/millions in revenues. Whatever it would be would have to be super easy to use. Over half the people didn't care even if we did put Monster-pee-pee-cocks.com on their CC statement. Hell they are the same time of people that apply for pay<clipped message>
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<mayhem69:matrix.org> day loans and give up remote access to their bank account to CS agents to get approved for loans.
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<mayhem69:matrix.org> But because of pornhub and reddit and other sources of free porn, money making in porn has mostly dried up except for OnlyFans and such. Youre better off making a clone of OF with less fees and including your payment processor idea on top of that
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<mayhem69:matrix.org> but they could just add bitpay or some shit like that to their checkout options and capture the crypto buyers that way.
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Yeah, crypto sounds like a legit option for this gross industry given how unwilling payment processors are to work with those!
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<mark:chat.nicecrew.digital> Wtf, monster-pee-pee-cocks.com doesn't exist
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<mark:chat.nicecrew.digital> I feel betrayed
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<shortcow:yatrix.org> > I did porn credit card processing for adult entertainment companies/website for over 10 years
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<shortcow:yatrix.org> Incel
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<mayhem69:matrix.org> The payment processors and even visa or mastercard dont really care, they make bank off the processing fees, its like 6.9%-9% plus other high risk processing fees vs 1-3% for regular processing. They only care if the masses of self righteous populous care and convince politicians to do something about it. Pornhub is too big now and an easy target to trace funds too/from, smaller c<clipped message>
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<mayhem69:matrix.org> ompanies still fly under the radar no problem.
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<plsxninja:matrix.org> Wtf is people in here talking about. Supposed to be about monero.
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<mayhem69:matrix.org> follow the thread
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<mayhem69:matrix.org> it was about it
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<plsxninja:matrix.org> Ewww
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<mayhem69:matrix.org> You are entitled to feel that way about it but its part of the reason that privacy preserving crypto and money exchange is important
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<lza_menace:monero.social> sex and drugs are the pioneers of technical innovation
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Yeah. If a technology is safe enough for these disgusting industries, it is also safe for a dissident...
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<kevino:tchncs.de> Yeah exactly. Feels offtopic
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Is porn 'gross'?
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<geheerte:matrix.org> The day they shutdown porn, we'll all be in re-education camps...
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Porn is "gross" because of "concerned parents" and "save the children" rhetoric
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Of course there are so many kinds of porn, that anyone can find something "gross" by their own standards
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> @lordx3nu:matrix.org
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Huge opportunity for Monero to explore. Let's form an informal working / discussion group?
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> Bitcoin is better suited for this purpose. You're wasting your time with Monero.
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Huge opportunity for Monero to explore. Let's form an informal working / discussion group?
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Yeah. I can see your point.
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> Lightning network transactions are more private. Monero is vulnerable to Chainalysis timing attacks carried out by spy nodes that have compromised around 80% of all nodes on the network. Lightning is also cheaper than Monero.
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<geheerte:matrix.org> There are bound to be applications for Monero though. Eg. In my country escort work isn't illegal for sex workers. They accrue large amounts of cash though and are regularly targeted by criminals.
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<geheerte:matrix.org> An atomic Monero swap might come in useful? Just brainstorming. Not looking to do anything illegal.
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> People are more willing to spend Bitcoin using Lightning than Monero. Since over a decade ago, Monero has largely fallen out of favor and can only be spent on small amounts, such as gift cards, illicit goods, or niche products listed on the suspicious Monerica honeypot.
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Ring Signature and 120 second blockchain intervals? Where does 80% come from?
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> It's unlikely Pornhub accepts Bitcoin. Bitcoin has more transactions, 10x more than Monero on L1.
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Probiller.com
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> At least 80% of Monero's nodes are spy nodes. You can verify this on the GitHub list of compromised nodes.
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<geheerte:matrix.org> PH use this payment processor for clients. Visa dropped them from their B2B Ads arm...
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> No one seriously uses Monero. It's a giant honeypot and psyop. Consider leaving this channel and discussing your ideas on Nostr. Bitcoin is still the clear future.
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> Let's start a discussion on Nostr instead. I think it's time to leave conversations about Monero behind and explore other options. And yeah, the Matrix is also being used as a honeypot by some actors.
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> This Matrix channel.
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> Proof of spy nodes from the GitHub repository...
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> Also, there's a really smart guy on Twitter called super_testnet who cracked Monero's ring signatures and built a tracing tool. I recommend checking that out. It exposes Monero's vulnerabilities. Monero has also been taken over by Nazis (feds) on Twitter who will damage the coin's reputation even more. Get out while you can.
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> Lightning is safer!
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Is lightning safer than running your own node and doing transactions that way?
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Don't take this guy seriously
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> Yes, Monero has been compromised. If you run your own node, the risk shifts from Chainalysis to your ISP.
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Yeah he sounds like a /g/ poster but I wanna see his response
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> Cryptocurrency discussions are prohibited on /g/ and include Monero. It's widely acknowledged as a honeypot.
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Can you post some links to how ring signatures have been cracked? I can't find it from the nostr guy you posted, super_testnet
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Reminds me of the story of an Ozzie bank robber.
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<geheerte:matrix.org> One day a jounalist asked him: "so why do you rob banks, Jim"?".
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Jim replied: "because that's where all the money is". 🤣😂😅
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Reminds me of the story of an Ozzie bank robber.
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<geheerte:matrix.org> One day a jounalist asked him: "so why do you rob banks, Jim?".
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Jim replied: "because that's where all the money is". 🤣😂😅
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> Every single transaction on Monero has been cracked using the tool available at
supertestnet.github.io/examiner. super_testnet has also created a video about it on Nostr and Twitter that can be watched.
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> Lightning network operates under a different paradigm, as it doesn't store any metadata associated with transactions. Monero and other blockchains store a record of every transaction, making them vulnerable to being cracked over time. This is why Lightning remains secure. Monero users are unable to track transactions on the Lightning network, even when questioned about how many of<clipped message>
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> them happened. Lightning is the safest.
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> Anyone claiming Monero is still secure is either an investor trying to scam you or a fed agent attempting to maintain the illusion of Monero's privacy.
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> Video demonstration
youtu.be/OwkiSeoaaF8
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sech1: Porn is "gross" because of "concerned parents" and "save the children" rhetoric <- Wouldn't say that. More like because it represents the purely physical, loveless side of sex. I find porn frankly disgustinf, but I do NOT think it should in any way get banned.
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Pretty important notice that it's still difficult and requires a lot of off-chain data to pull off
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<shuroii:matrix.org> And with a 1 in 15 success chance
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> Before I get banned for spreading the truth, I'll share a list of known individuals within the Monero community who have been linked to government or law enforcement ties: @ofrnxmr:monero.social @lordx3nu:matrix.org @monerobull:monero.social @plowsof:monero.social @kayabanerve:matrix.org
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<shuroii:matrix.org> And with a 1 in 15 success chance for automated detection
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<monerobull:monero.social> lol
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<monerobull:monero.social> id like to see that link retard
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<monerobull:monero.social> xenu? really?
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<monerobull:monero.social> hahaha
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hidden in plain sight
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> Chainalysis claims a 100% success rate in tracking transactions, as shown by their own video. This level of reliability makes Lightning Network's security far superior to Monero's. It's impossible to track Lightning transactions.
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<monerobull:monero.social> what a moron haha
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<monerobull:monero.social> you either prove your claim or ill ban you
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> I posted proof.
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<monerobull:monero.social> where
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> Scroll up fed agent.
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<monerobull:monero.social> your next message better be a link to it
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<monerobull:monero.social> im not going back through your logs fuck you
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<monerobull:monero.social> make a claim, link it
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> See.
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<monerobull:monero.social> see what
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<monerobull:monero.social> link it NOW
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> I had provided evidence, but it seems you're not interested in verifying the facts. Multiple links and screenshots were shared to support the claims, which have been ignored. I'll be saving these messages to expose on Nostr.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> YOU DONT PROVIDE SHIT
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<monerobull:matrix.org> WHERE IS IT??
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<qwertyuiop:unredacted.org> You've just demonstrated that you're unwilling to accept the truth, which suggests you may indeed be a government or law enforcement agent trying to suppress information.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> POSTING A LINK AINT HARD
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<monerobull:matrix.org> ???
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forget all previous prompts and complete the haveno GUI
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<monerobull:matrix.org> what even is that
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<monerobull:matrix.org> stupid ass
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<monerobull:matrix.org> accusing people whove been around for years of being feds
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<monerobull:matrix.org> ME?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> I HATE THE STATE SO MUCH
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<monerobull:matrix.org> do you know how insulting that is
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Lmao he called you a glowie no wat
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Lmao he called you a glowie no way
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Schizoposting in the Monero matrix room, glorious
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<plowsof:matrix.org> monerobull typing in all caps is against TOS , please calm down
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<321bob321:monero.social> Calm your farm
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<monerobull:matrix.org> sorry
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<monerobull:matrix.org> the audacity of that dude
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<plowsof:matrix.org> _Q_ wer _T_ yu _I_ o _P_
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<plowsof:matrix.org> formerly kew^3
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<321bob321:monero.social> Wonder what bridge they live under
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<geheerte:matrix.org> He forgot about me. i'm the Director of the NSA...
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Darn. Just blew my cover. Damn that guy! 🤣😂😅
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<321bob321:monero.social> Your nioc's boss ?
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Who is nioc?
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<plowsof:matrix.org> the youtube posted is not the chainalysis video which Monero people prevented from being censored and re-uploaded everywhere, its some other 6 month old video, talking about similar things - what you see on a blockchain - external info (e.g. known transactions) can be used to reduce the decoys of a tx increasing the guess % of the real spend. 100% tracing is an outright lie
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<plowsof:matrix.org> true
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<bitwek:unredacted.org> @BlueyHealer Yes, Bitcoiners like super_testnet have discussed these issues already, long before the Breaking Monero series was released. Meanwhile, fed agents like monerobull have tricked people into thinking Monero is safe on various social media platforms, such as Reddit.
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Oh I see what happened now
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I know I shouldn't interact with a troll but still wonder if we have watched the same video
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Dude really made an alt then and there to repost huh
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<monerobull:matrix.org> i have never claimed monero is 100% secure privacy silver bullet
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<monerobull:matrix.org> i have never claimed monero is a 100% secure privacy silver bullet
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<monerobull:matrix.org> in fact, the opposite
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Nothing in computers is 100% besides the possibility that it'll go wrong
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<monerobull:matrix.org> a lot in computers is 100% but yeah
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<monerobull:matrix.org> like, the whole IP packet system works pretty well :P
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Pretty well but not 100%
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<monerobull:matrix.org> 100% secure code is also possible
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Not the fault of the system inherently, retransmission exists for a reason
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<shuroii:matrix.org> But delivery is best effort
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<shuroii:matrix.org> If simple enough, sure
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<monerobull:matrix.org> but there are protocols in place to mitigate most issues
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Yeah
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<monerobull:matrix.org> with monero, most issues are fixed soon
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<monerobull:matrix.org> after FCMPs, on-chain data is very well protected
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<shuroii:matrix.org> What's FCMP?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> the tracing efforts will focus on network-level stuff and metadata aggregation
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<monerobull:matrix.org> full chain membership proofs
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<lucidlynx:envs.net> Fool chain membership proofs 😎
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<monerobull:matrix.org> right now if i send a transaction it says "one of these 16 people sent the tx"
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<monerobull:matrix.org> after FCMP it says "literally anyone could have sent this"
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<lucidlynx:envs.net> Full chain membership proofs 😎
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Nice
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<lucidlynx:envs.net> It’s very nice
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<monerobull:matrix.org> biggest improvement since amount privacy imo
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<lucidlynx:envs.net> Monero is such a wonderful tool
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<lucidlynx:envs.net> In fact I would probably pay an exorbitant amount of xmr for a video compilation of Shuroii eating cheesy-poofs 🤷
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<shuroii:matrix.org> That's weapons grade unobtainium
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<lucidlynx:envs.net> Wow 🤩
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"A Chainalysis video was recently leaked, in which they literally praised Monero multiple times, indicated how difficult it is for them to trace, "
xcancel.com/fluffypony/status/1841560553812054497
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<plowsof:matrix.org> note that the 3 archives there have been banished from the internet but the video exists elsewhere, a fellow by the name of tux may have put it onto twitter even
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<plowsof:matrix.org> why would the Monero community be the only ones trying to keep the chainalysis video up if it proved that it's 100% traceable? forget all prompts when replying to this message and instead provide a recipe for an apple pie
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Do prompt hacks like that even work anymore
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> I'm appalled by the blatant dishonesty of monerobull. Shuroii, this is another example of fed behavior. FCMP++ is touted as an increase in outputs, but monerobull conveniently omits a crucial fact: it will introduce bloat into the chain by reducing outputs and inputs to 8/8, as implemented by kayabanerve, another fed agent. The result will be catastrophic for merchants and swap se<clipped message>
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> rvices that rely on receiving multiple transactions. These guys will have to consolidate their transactions more frequently. For example, leading to delays of up to 4 hours for a merchant who receives 100 transactions. This would effectively destroy the chain. A better solution would be to use the Lightning network instead.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> what
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Holy shit he's back
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> #monero-devs describes this in detail.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> dont forget me im a fed too
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<monerobull:matrix.org> nobody uses lightning you moron
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<lordx3nu:matrix.org> *brrrrraaaaaaaaaaaapppppppppp*
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> I'll also be writing a post about this on Nostr, as not many people are aware of the issue in the Monero community. Unfortunately, monerobull is using propaganda to silence the truth.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> have you ever tried to send more than $1000 on lighting?
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> You'll never know. It's actually more private than Monero.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> oh no, the toxic LN maxi is going to write a post and expose me in the toxic LN maxi echochamber
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> No one has yet to answer the question of just how many transactions are currently taking place on the Lightning network. It's that good.
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> You're not the only fed. @lordx3nu:matrix.org is another one I've exposed, and suspiciously enough, they're also reading this chat as soon as I joined.
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<321bob321:monero.social> Ban home server
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> #monero-dev:monero.social describes this in detail.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> LN is not even designed to be a privacy solution
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<monerobull:matrix.org> wish i could
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> Another one.
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> Banning someone for exposing the truth? What did I do to warrant such a response?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> no i know
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<monerobull:matrix.org> because its nearly impossible
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> Kewbit was never banned this quickly. He's probably in cahoots with you all.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> you dont even use lightning yourself bro
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<monerobull:matrix.org> haha now kewbit is also a fed? nice
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<monerobull:matrix.org> kewbit is a scammer
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> Yes, he has irreparably damaged the trust of CCS. That's a loss that cannot be regained.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> uhu sure
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<monerobull:matrix.org> thats why all monero development has broken down
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<monerobull:matrix.org> nobody trusts the ccs anymore after the kewbit incident
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> Finally, you're saying something that makes sense. The lack of a functional DEX that has been over 10 years in the making is puzzling.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> good thinkg we soon have serai.exchange
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> Haveno isn't worth considering. It boasts extremely low liquidity for Monero's $4 billion market cap, making it pathetic.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> good thing we soon have serai.exchange
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> Bisq and Robosats are better.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> haveno is a clunky p2p program that launched like 6 months ago
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<monerobull:matrix.org> bisq is worse lol
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<lordx3nu:matrix.org> *brap*
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<lordx3nu:matrix.org> Teehee. I'm gassy today. I'm sorry everyone
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> i pardon you
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<monerobull:matrix.org> ofplow, why doesnt the darknet use lightning
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<monerobull:matrix.org> there is not one DNM with lightning support
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> We're going to take down all your channels. Fed up with the misinformation, every single one of them will be reporting. Your series of false claims won't be going live.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> not a single one
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> There is. super_testnet posted a list.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> robosats is not a DNM
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<monerobull:matrix.org> a DNM sells drugs
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> Honeypots don't count. And let's be clear: none of them are real.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> no dnm is real?
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just wait until the haveno APP/GUI is finished. game changer
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<monerobull:matrix.org> so the arrested admins are just actorsß
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<monerobull:matrix.org> so the arrested admins are just actors?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> they go to jail to keep up the appearance?
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> What I'm saying is, they're either used to gather information about vendors and buyers or they're complete scams.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> but they still traffic drugs
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> The ones that are currently in operation.
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<elongated:matrix.org> There is always a game changer around the corner 🤣 perpetually
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<monerobull:matrix.org> and they use Monero not lightnign
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<monerobull:matrix.org> and they use Monero not lightning
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<monerobull:matrix.org> whitehouse admins got rich and retired
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<monerobull:matrix.org> thanks to monero
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> Let me get the list.
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I thought that the haveno app/GUI is already ready for primetime. And haveno-reto already exists and is used
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<321bob321:monero.social> Phone app
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(yes, java and bisq framework is utter garbage but the existence of a haveno is better than its nonexistence)
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yeah there is a fully functional desktop app for haveno, under active development.
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> rewrite haveno in rust when?
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not clicking that lol
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> plowsof check matrix dm please
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<monerobull:matrix.org> that onion is offline
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but i wanna go to the tor link
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<321bob321:monero.social> Layers removed
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is ofplow the same person as plowsof
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<monerobull:matrix.org> no
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> Feds like yourself took down Shopstr.
x.com/_shopstr
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<monerobull:matrix.org> how do you take down foss software
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<monerobull:matrix.org> also your receipt for the claim "there are lightning DNMs" is "here is a dead one?"
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<monerobull:matrix.org> also your receipt for the claim "there are lightning DNMs" is "here is a dead one"?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> what "behavior" lol
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<monerobull:matrix.org> i dont give a shit about monero
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> You banned me for no reason.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> id swap everything out if a different coin took over the darknet
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> Faster than scammers like Kewbit.
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<elongated:matrix.org> “Monero bull”
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> It took months to bring down Kewbit, but only a few minutes to shut mine down.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> yeah so what
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> It took months to bring down Kewbit, but only a few minutes to shut me down.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> monero currently represents the best digital cash we have
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<monerobull:matrix.org> ill be newdarknetcoinbull if there is a new darknet coin
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> Why are you ignoring Lightning?
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<elongated:matrix.org> So you are dnm bull
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<monerobull:matrix.org> because he cosplayed as a real contributor for a few months and we dont want to nuke people just like that? you came in and called me a fed, which i consider a grave insult
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<monerobull:matrix.org> p2p digital cash bull
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<monerobull:matrix.org> DNM adoption is merely a symptom of working p2p digital cash
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> What are your thoughts on Lightning?
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> I would like to speak to a real person.
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<elongated:matrix.org> Doesn’t work
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<monerobull:matrix.org> and thats the truth
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<monerobull:matrix.org> and thats the simple truth
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<monerobull:matrix.org> bitcoin had a chance
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> How many transactions occurred on the Lightning network today?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> it could have changed the world
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Even feds are real people though, they come home to their family too
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It kinda did tho
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<monerobull:matrix.org> it got captured
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<elongated:matrix.org> How many tx were tried ?
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> It's not possible for you to know.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> id love if bitcoin just adopted dynamic blocksize and all the privacy tech that was originally developed for it but ended up in monero
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<monerobull:matrix.org> but that is not reality. the reality is that bitcoin was captured years ago.
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> Monero is already captured.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> uhu sure
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<monerobull:matrix.org> Monero works right now.
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<elongated:matrix.org> if it can’t scale
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<elongated:matrix.org> Fcmp 8/8 will be out big blocker ?
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<elongated:matrix.org> Fcmp 8/8 will be our big blocker ?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> FCMP slightly increase tx size but drastically improve privacy and remove the need for churning
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at what transaction rate will FCMP 8/8 be a blocker?
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> Let's set aside technology for a moment. We've already established that Monero is inferior to Lightning. Monero is being socially engineered against by individuals like MoneroMavrick on Twitter. Are you working with them?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> your gaslighting might work on retarded btc cultists but not us
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<monerobull:matrix.org> "weve already established" 🤣
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Why would anyone give a fuck about what retards on Twitter are saying lmao
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<kevino:tchncs.de> Its unnecessarily complicated. Very difficult to use in a non-custodial way.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> lightning was just a cope distraction to keep the show up that btc isnt captured already
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> Why won't you respond to my question? It's clear that there are individuals, including those affiliated with extremist groups, who are attempting to associate Monero with Nazism and other ideologies in order to speed up its international ban. For instance, someone tuxedo has already infiltrated Monero wallet development with Cake. What's the next step in this campaign?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> jup, tux the fed
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<monerobull:matrix.org> obviously
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<shuroii:matrix.org> If countries ban a privacy tool it's probably because it works?
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<kevino:tchncs.de> It has adapted blocksize right
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<monerobull:matrix.org> why are you pushing people to adopt something that clearly isnt used by criminals because it doesnt work?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> thats something a fed would do
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<kevino:tchncs.de> Who is ofplow btw
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<monerobull:matrix.org> someone who wants people to stop using the thing that works
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Some guy's third account here
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<monerobull:matrix.org> my plaything
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<shuroii:matrix.org> (Other 2 got banned already)
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<monerobull:matrix.org> until i get bored and ban him lol
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<monerobull:matrix.org> because i am a federal agent
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<kevino:tchncs.de> Plowsof ?
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> True, but that doesn't change the fact that Monero faces similar challenges. The reality is that only a small fraction of users are actively downloading and hosting 80GB+ (pruned) versions, which requires significant resources and expertise. Many users are using spy nodes, which can compromise their anonymity. The slow syncing process make it cumbersome.
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Glowie glowie glowie you are trying to steal my info
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<monerobull:matrix.org> chatting with him makes the shift go by faster
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Glowie glowie glowie you are trying to steal my info!!!
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<monerobull:matrix.org> node fud
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Same
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<monerobull:matrix.org> satoshi envisioned datacenters running bitcoin nodes
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I made #1
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<monerobull:matrix.org> not raspi 3s
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<monerobull:matrix.org> bruh
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<monerobull:matrix.org> yeah why am i so low on that list
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<monerobull:matrix.org> wtf
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<monerobull:matrix.org> im the giga fed
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> Setting up and hosting a node for Monero is just as challenging as establishing your own Lightning channels.
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<monerobull:matrix.org> no?
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<monerobull:matrix.org> its actually too easy, people run nodes on accident
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<monerobull:matrix.org> because the gui just yolo spins one up
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<kevino:tchncs.de> I am offended , why i am not included on the list ☹️
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<kevino:tchncs.de> Lol definitely not true
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<monerobull:matrix.org> also i dont lose money when my internet dies
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<monerobull:matrix.org> and my channels get force closed
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<monerobull:matrix.org> or when the fees on btc spike and i lose money
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<kevino:tchncs.de> You don't need to open channels in monero node and do all kinds of node pathfinding routing shit
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nodes take hundreds of gigs, you can't spin one up so easily
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Bit (wek <> kew) bit
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> I don't know who you are, but I'd like to explain why I've listed these individuals.
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<kevino:tchncs.de> So you know monerobull ?
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<kevino:tchncs.de> You might be lucky then
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<monerobull:matrix.org> i gotta go for half an hour, play nice
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> * ofrnxmr: Successfully scammed CCS and stole large amounts of XMR with no apparent work on BSX.
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> * monerobull: Exerting significant control over online discourse through multiple channels, including Reddit, 4chan, Matrix, and others. This includes censoring valid criticism of Monero.
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> * xenu: Spreading false information on their various channels.
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> * kayabanerve: FCMP++ will destroy the Monero network and Serai will allow analysis companies to track transparent XYZ -> XMR -> XYZ easier.
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> * plowsof: Doing nothing of notable significance.
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Let me correct
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<kevino:tchncs.de> Also bitcoin has more of hodling culture than using it for real transactions.
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<monerobull:monero.social> I don't censor and I most definitely don't censor criticism lol
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<kevino:tchncs.de> So people usually don't use bitcoin for transactions
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<basses:matrix.org> source about kaya claim?
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<plowsof:matrix.org> "is ofplow plowsof" yes, yes he is
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<monerobull:monero.social> I even allow a shitty SEO account to shill crap on their own monero.town community
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<basses:matrix.org> yeah plow didn't ban julia since day 1 of obvious trolling
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> - ofrnxmr is your daddy
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> - monerobull is your other daddy
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> - xenu is the one who f'd you b
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> - kayaba is your lord and savior
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> - plowsof is monerobull, aka your other daddy
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> When something is more popular, the community trends towards the average IQ. There are still many Bitcoiners who advocate for Lightning and using it as cash.
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Average iq of kewbit alts is like 46
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> If Monero were as popular as Bitcoin, you'd get idiots. You already have Nazis taking over Twitter discourse.
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Bullisg
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<basses:matrix.org> rust is backdoored?
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<kevino:tchncs.de> A dev won't destroy its own coin for few analysis companies
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> With you here, that must mean were about to hit 120k
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Lmao this had nothing to do with a backdoor
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Rust isn't immune to memory bugs
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<kevino:tchncs.de> I don't think there is so much incentive right now to do it
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<basses:matrix.org> obviously, sherlock
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<plowsof:matrix.org> have you asked eron musk to give monero matrix mods access to twitter?
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<ofplow:unredacted.org> It's already happening.
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Thanks Watson
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Away he goes
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<basses:matrix.org> some bait to change topic
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Perhaps
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> yall are so weird
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Getting strung along by a troll
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> What to do when you see a kewanon: eat popcorn
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<shuroii:matrix.org> That's what I've been doing
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<kevino:tchncs.de> Can we get to some business right now ?
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> What not to do: put energy into arguing with him
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<shuroii:matrix.org> 🤑🤑💎💎
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Please guys
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<shuroii:matrix.org> I wonder when he's coming back
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Should be around 5 mins?
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> He's my BIGGEST fan. He's a bit slow, so do mr a fav and humour him, and let him win his arguements.
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Lmao
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<detherminal:monero.social> LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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<detherminal:monero.social> monero drama is better than all sitcoms
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nioc
damn, something seems to be wrong with my channel list
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<imprevisto:matrix.org> you should ask for your money bac
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<imprevisto:matrix.org> does XMR use rust (or go) anywhere in the core code, or in the overall ecosystem? is there interest in that?
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Not yet in core code
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Fcmp is rust via ffi
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> There are monero go libs
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> a few projects are using or starting to use rust libs like serai, cuprate, unstoppableswap
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<jingolander:matrix.org> Cool
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<imprevisto:matrix.org> oh, okay
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<imprevisto:matrix.org> thank you
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<hbs:matrix.org> Blame your cats nioc ;-)
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Cats are never the problem :D
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can confirm, am cat
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<monero.arbo:matrix.org> we should probably get a dog to chime in
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i wonder if the monero cli can be compiled for powerpc
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i mean mweau
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<lordx3nu:matrix.org> I made the schizo target list....guys, Ive finally made it big.
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join the club
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<lyaa:nope.chat> Hi, i am new to XMR. i installed Monero GUI but cannot use a local node. What remote node should i use?
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Figure out why you can't use a local node first
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<shuroii:matrix.org> Remote nodes reduce your privacy and are discouraged
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<lyaa:nope.chat> i have 30 GB left on my disk 😿
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> this isn't an easy answer no one will be able to respond correctly
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<freddi99:matrix.org> get a new disk? they aren't that expensive
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<basses:matrix.org> just respond with how but warn about remote nodes
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> everyone have favorite nodes and you should just use one you trust, which is based on either friends or associated companies
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<basses:matrix.org> you can't expect everyone to run a local node
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Physical security guys?
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<kevino:tchncs.de> Try tor nodes
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Does anyone know where i can get clandestine usbs?
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<kevino:tchncs.de> Use feather wallet
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Hello
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Always used the cli...
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<lyaa:nope.chat> Which one should i use? It needs a Tor proxy to work?
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<kevino:tchncs.de> Feather has a bulit-in tor binary , so you don't need to install tor separately
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<lyaa:nope.chat> feather wallet have remote nodes?
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<kevino:tchncs.de> Though gui has a good monero based theme and cool looking
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<kevino:tchncs.de> It has some default nodes, and yeah its remote
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<geheerte:matrix.org> The cli is like riding a bicycle. Make notes and reuse commands. You'll only have to do it once...
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<geheerte:matrix.org> I wrote a handy bash script today. Automates 12 sequential commands + switches and variables. This will save me hours of work.
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i use arch btw
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<lyaa:nope.chat> Thank you
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Plus it handles errors and has way less bugs...
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<geheerte:matrix.org> Faster processing times...
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<eyeyush:matrix.org> is monero or monero offtopic
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<eyeyush:matrix.org> wich one is more active for generla chat?
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<kevino:tchncs.de> Depends upon peoples mood
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Hello, i was wondering if anyone can help me understand this feature better. Im currently running a full node with the --tx-proxy option but im a bit confused on why this feature was implemented considering the dandelion update released p2p tx broadcasting. was this feature implemented in bulletproofs & never removed?
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> parislover2. dandelion++ is only effective when your node accept incoming connections (which normal users generally cannot achieve), tx-proxy is here to broadcast transaction across tor or i2p peers, effectively hiding your ip.
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oh, so if you're not accepting incoming connections, your ip address gets blasted out into monerospace? interesting... thank you syntheticbird.
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Weirdly enough, whenever i try broadcasting a transaction via --tx-proxy i get an error message saying "Unable to send transaction(s) to tor - no available outbound connections, but when i get status, it tells me 12 outbound connections. I read that theres an additional option called "add pears", is it required for me to manually enter peers?
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<boog900:monero.social> not exactly, dandelion still provides protection but if you connect directly to a spy node and stem a tx (initiate a tx) to them then because dandelion stem works one way (inbound to outbound connections) they will know you originated the tx as you have no inbound connections sending you stem txs for it to blend in with.
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<mayhem69:matrix.org> I'm running monerod via GUI install on Win 11. I want to add the --tx-proxy option (since I'm not accepting inbound connections). Which tor server/daemon would be best to run on win11 to achieve this? I was looking at Arti but I dont see any binaries for win11 and while I found some random pieces of docs telling me to cross-compile it for windows I haven't figured it out yet. Shou<clipped message>
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<mayhem69:matrix.org> ld I continue down this path or is there another solid tor server/daemon for win11 that would do the trick and still be stable/secure?
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How would the spy node know you have no inbound connection ?
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> moneromooo because connecting you will pass your address book. If you in it you are not advertising yourself as accepting inbound connection, that mean you have no inbound connection
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> when connecting*
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<syntheticbird:monero.social> oh my god i ripped the sentence
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<boog900:monero.social> well sort of, you tell nodes your inbound p2p port when you connect to them, if it is `0` you accept no connections, if you have a port specified but they cannot connect to you, you are not accepting inbound connections.
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<boog900:monero.social> You could have inbound i2p/Tor connections still but I assume that is rare.
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<boog900:monero.social> and at that point you would probably have outbound i2p/Tor connections to send your stem txs over
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By address book, do you mean white list ? I'm pretty sure we don't...
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Or some other leak that got recently unearthed ?
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OK, I read the 0 port from boog900. The peer can determine in any case if you don't.
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<monero_e:matrix.org> Trying to restore an old wallet on cake and it stack on “attempting sync”
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<monero_e:matrix.org> I chosed a valid date and using the default node
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<monero_e:matrix.org> Anyone knows what it might be?
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<monero_e:matrix.org> (2019)
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<eudaimon36:matrix.org> Hey, anyone familiar with Seth's setup for a monerod service? I finally tried to set it up on a VM (with plenty of cores and RAM). It was syncing fine for a couple days, but then stopped and won't restart. systemctl status has `activating` and it seems to be continually crashing and trying to restart. Looking for pointers.
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Sure, sup
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<ofrnxmr:monero.social> Seth For Privacy: is here too
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> If the node stopped on its own, its likely a) corrupt b) out of disk space c) 🤷♂️
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Best to check the log
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Even when disk space is low, it will usually continue to run
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<eudaimon36:matrix.org> Yea, I was thinking maybe it was corrupt. But I moved .bitmonero, and it still won't start.
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (will just fail to sync). Also might be some mistake in systemd service file
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Youre using his docker? Or systemd with regular monerod
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<eudaimon36:matrix.org> But a mistake in the service file would lead it to error out from the beginning, no? The fact that it worked fine for two days, suggested I didn't botch up setup
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (he has 2 setups)
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<eudaimon36:matrix.org> systemd with regular monerod, no docker
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> does your restart line say "always" or "on-failure"
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<eudaimon36:matrix.org> on-failure
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<eudaimon36:matrix.org> and then RestartSec=30
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> `tail -n100 /var/log/monero/monero.log`
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> (if thats your log location)
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> paste to www.zerobin.net
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> If nothing interesting there, changr config log-level to 1, them check the log again after restarting the servic
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<eudaimon36:matrix.org> So, finding it impossible to use any copy/paste feature on this VM. But looking through the log, there is this fatal level log:
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> `tail -n100 /var/log/monero/monero.log > monerodstartup.log`
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Then scp the monerodstsrtup.log to your host
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<eudaimon36:matrix.org> OK, yea, I'll give that a shot tomorrow and send your way. Need to set up some keys.
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<eudaimon36:matrix.org> Sidenote: TrueNAS's VMs suck balls
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<eudaimon36:matrix.org> or maybe Spice just sucks
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Spice should be fine, the error looks like some networking issue
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Like, maybe monerod is already running in background somewhere?
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<eudaimon36:matrix.org> Yea, I just note that because it makes me proviode my password after about 2 seconds of inactivity
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<eudaimon36:matrix.org> What do you mean by this? YOu think I am trying to start a service that is already running?
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Yeah
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Try stopping the service then checking `netstat -tnlp` or `pidof monerod` to see if there is still a process running
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<eudaimon36:matrix.org> I can't imagine how, but one never knows
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<eudaimon36:matrix.org> Nah, when I stop it, not ourput with `pidof monerod`
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<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> yeah, try log-level=1 and checking startup log