<n​ot_a_money_printer:matrix.org> Is there any measure to prevent someone to simply sending huge amount of tiny transaction to flood and bloat the monero blockchain?

<n​ot_a_money_printer:matrix.org> It seems like each transaction only took a cent, an attacker can simply load a lot of dust transaction to flood the mem pool

Limited block size, and the block reward penalty for increasing it.

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> penalty for entering tx into the mempool?

Penalty for adding tx in the block when it's already full

<n​ot_a_money_printer:matrix.org> So that is actually make miners to include less transactions

<n​ot_a_money_printer:matrix.org> And the normal transactions in the mempool is going to wait longer?

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> well if the attacker is only paying the lowest fee, normal transactions would go through and the attacker transactions will just go in when there's space. The block size increasing depends on users increasing their fees enough to offset the penalty

<b​asses:matrix.org> A security-focused desktop and server linux operating system.

<b​asses:matrix.org> secureblue.dev

<b​asses:matrix.org> better for OS for your hot wallet than Windows

<b​asses:matrix.org> better OS for your hot wallet than Windows

<i​mprevisto:matrix.org> to continue on this good question..... let's say I am an attacker trying to spam tx .. I can add a lot of tx to the mempool for cheap, but those will not be added to a block because I didn't pay enough in fees. after a time are those proposed tx dropped from the mempool?

Anything that does not get mined for one reason or another will be dropped from mempool after some time. Don't remember exactly, maybe 24 hours

I am not sure either that transactions that don't have the mimimum fee get passed around at all, maybe daemons will refuse to receive them and pass them on to peers

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> I would say it has very good defaults and philosophy compared to the rest of the distro ecosystem. But honestly having to deal with it is hard + you gotta be prepared for depression if there is a bug (and there will be since it's Red Hat software ecosystem)

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> since you won't be able to deal with it easily. Being in their discord server is basically mandatory for usage

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> since you won't be able to deal with it. Being in their discord server is basically mandatory for usage

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> And also I think, the burden/bloat that Fedora brought somewhat outweigh the security benefits they brought on the table.

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Definitely the best choice OOTB tho for single usage/ just your wallet

<f​areve:matrix.org> @syntheticbird:monero.socialall social media has security if you gotta give real info to use it nowadays

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> sry but I think I missed the context

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> tx that dont get mined will be dropped after 72hrs

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> There is a relay rule that will reject tx under a certain lvl

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> (at last hard fork, we dropped tx that were using the old fee lvls)

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> imprevisto --- {SO_KEEPALIVE} 💀ﮩ٨ـﮩﮩ٨ـ♡ﮩ٨ـﮩﮩ٨…

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> the default txpool size is about equal to that of 72hrs of tx at 300kb blocks. So if spammer only sent 600mb of tx, theyd probably (almost) all be mined

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> ofrnAI: I'm paying you 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000 XMR if you formalize consensus

<b​asses:matrix.org> idk wym by float? it is a general purpose OS

<b​asses:matrix.org> same with any distro?

<b​asses:matrix.org> you can use github for issues

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> bloat*. i'm mainly talking all the useless red hat software layer and over utilizaiton of systemd

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> with other distros you have workaround

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> but with Silverblue you don't

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> thats what I call depression

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> github issue in Secureblue, then if its a fedora bug you open a Red Hat bug report ticket. Good job you just signed for a minimum 4 years long resolution

<b​asses:matrix.org> idk about that tbh

<b​asses:matrix.org> didn't hear much complains about silverblue specifically

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Silverblue is pretty stable for normie usage but have its load of issues that are dragging since years. ffmpeg-thumbnailer are one of them.

<b​asses:matrix.org> niche lol

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> tbf if it wasn't niche I wouldn't claim siverblue to be stable

hey new frens, i dont have any monero yet and i dont have any reason to try and hide what i buy, but i really love the concept of it and wanting a little privacy, i looked into market places to see if there was anything worth wile and its very limited, i would buy if i could try and help the economy, but it just seems limited if i dont want buy illegal stuff. is there anything i can do besides throw up random items i want to sell in my house for xmr on places

like xmrbazaar and then buying stuff stuff sold in it? i cant really use xmr beyond that

Vixi, how about buying anything on amazon? monezon.com

monezon has been discontinued, for a while ?

monerica.com has some options for using monero

O has it? I thought it was just some temporary downtime

at least offline since 4 months ago reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1h08efq/is_monezon_still_active