Is there a way to make an integrated address using a subaddress? I'm writing some software that needs to generate unique addresses for each payer, and want to avoid revealing the wallet's main address.

<m​odul8:matrix.org> wait for it.... youtube.com/watch?v=If3TN_kbvYY&t=1100s

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> not that i'm aware of

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Why not use a unique subaddress for each player?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Or whats the issue with using the main address?

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> was watching it

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> @monero mentionned

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> pump eet

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…oad/xmr.mx/ZsFZKTdkcMkxPzIJhQDYKZWj

Generating a unique subaddress per user _could_ work, but then the subaddress counters would somehow have to be synced between the software's view-only wallet & the full-access wallet

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> You can just set the lookahead to like 200000 on the full access wallet?

<b​asses:matrix.org> nordvpn guy

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> It say Mullvad in the screenshot :po

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> But imo Just use Portmaster + Ivpn/Safing

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> that way you know that the Europeran Central bank have a list of all Linux Plasma Users 😂

Oh! I didn't know the lookahead existed, that's quite helpful :)

<b​asses:matrix.org> he has done vpn ads for nord or express, I dont recall which one to be exact

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I don't remember him making ads afaik

<b​asses:matrix.org> yewtu.be/watch?v=r3hbrHMRsa8

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> you mean the shit I never see, in piss yellow?

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…oad/xmr.mx/NjOVTKSTqXtmWeKWpDYiIHdw

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…oad/xmr.mx/IYQmqHvjiFbJweowSmOXheCE

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> botton left corner

<b​asses:matrix.org> check description

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> lol , dude had to learn or something

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> that one seam to learn fast

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> And well, theses VPN scam pay a lot of money to some youtube

<b​asses:matrix.org> learn what?

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> hard to say no

<b​asses:matrix.org> mental outlaw didn't sell till now

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> mental outlaw sell shit?

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Afaik he only have some online store or something

<b​asses:matrix.org> sell his subs

<b​asses:matrix.org> yeah his store is mostly chinese crap

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> China is the prime source of cheap crap you can resell for a profit

<b​asses:matrix.org> but it looks so terrible that it will break after fews days

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> Not buying that stuff anyway

<r​avfx:xmr.mx> I don't want to paint myself as a target

<b​asses:matrix.org> outlaw is my fav fed

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> I am working on a monero exchange project

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> kuno.anne.media/fundraiser/ktks

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Here's a link a fundraising effort. Please critique this idea

<b​asses:matrix.org> why not on bounty website?

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> If you like it then for sure message me.

<b​asses:matrix.org> bounties.monero.social

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Oh cool. I didn't know about that

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> This monero bounties site is sick. thanks for sharing that.

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/FGCocERiseCZbMhZDIYPKxNQ

<e​ddie:oblak.be> He's tweeting like all XMR holders are on twitter ... what a douche 😂

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> He says that it's a proof of concept for qubic -- but then posts shit like this

<e​ddie:oblak.be> yeah he seems some kind of evil weirdo

<e​ddie:oblak.be> quite genius in a way

<e​ddie:oblak.be> but not when it comes to being social

<e​ddie:oblak.be> I read he worked on the project iota or smth, but left / got kicked out because he has a difficult personality, idk

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> It's insane marketing for qubic

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> But the qubic pool isn't holding the hash rate

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> It's like on and off right?

<e​ddie:oblak.be> it's been going like this for a month or 2 now?

<e​ddie:oblak.be> indeed it's on/off

<e​ddie:oblak.be> but it's growing

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Yea

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> If he goes on and off with 51%

<e​ddie:oblak.be> Very rough rough, but I think with around 20 million dollars in AMD CPU's you can add 1.5 GH/s to the network

<e​ddie:oblak.be> So I am wondering where he gets the hashrate from, who are the qubic followers..

<e​ddie:oblak.be> Very rough estimation, but I think with around 20 million dollars in AMD CPU's you can add 1.5 GH/s to the network

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> albefero on X is another lead

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> qubic.org/team

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Qubic_JOETOM on X

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> They have to be renting the hash

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> I would think - idk

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Spoofing their pool hash?

<e​ddie:oblak.be> I have no idea

<e​ddie:oblak.be> But it seems unlikely that he has a following of 10k people suddenly poolmining qubic

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> 20 million dollars could add 1.5 GH/s for how long do you think?

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> The whole qubic market cap is 250mm

<e​ddie:oblak.be> for as long as you keep the miners running

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Ohhhh gotcha

<e​ddie:oblak.be> I didn't mean when renting, 20 million investment

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Yea makes sense.

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> 245000 cpu's at 20Kh/s each gets you monero network hashrate

hola

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> hello

hows it goin

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> solid. hbu

good just fuckin abt with irc ain't touch nothing in ages

cli irc I mean

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> We are talking about cuebick

oh ight

<e​ddie:oblak.be> Yeah, a very rich party could in theory just buy up monero

<e​ddie:oblak.be> in terms of hashrate

<e​ddie:oblak.be> some companies change hands for much more

<e​ddie:oblak.be> I am just wondering how long it would take to physically provision 250k cpu's / servers

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> monero-project/research-lab #134 is my typed up version of the above TEE commentary

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> well lets see an old datacenter with xeon cpu's worth about 10-20 bucks each - 10 Million bucks - buys the whole datacenter

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> that gets you a quarter million cpu's

<e​ddie:oblak.be> do you think there are DC's idling waiting to get bought?

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> oh yeah - old cpu's stuff just sitting around turned off

<o​ieieio1:matrix.org> because new cpu's are way more efficient

<e​ddie:oblak.be> but why would you keep old CPU's turned of instead of replacing them?

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> I disbelief qubic's pool stats honestly

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Seems like some trickery is going on

<k​ayabanerve:matrix.org> The question will be the amount of hash power they can sustain, if they ever actually attempt sustained hash power.

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> gist.github.com/Rucknium/0873b10b6d36ff6c9d6f8f54107d16f7

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> miningrigrentals.com/rigs/randomx)

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> I saw this post about it

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/oLgHHnlpdsYNbGaIxIDSngqw

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> x.com/coffnix/status/1949295564815757319

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> interesting

<t​esttank:matrix.org> That’s very instresting, mainstream media in eu would never talk about monero.

<t​esttank:matrix.org> europol.europa.eu/cms/sites/default…tion%20of%20criminal%20finances.pdf

<t​esttank:matrix.org> This is a official report of europol about crypto in fiancial crime, at page 7 they say they are suprised about no one giving a fuck about monero (privacy coins)

<t​esttank:matrix.org> All we need is a divorce lawyer suggesting a men to liquidate all his assets to buy monero to make all his assets disappear, and we’ll go to mars

<t​esttank:matrix.org> This is a official report of europol about crypto in fiancial crime, at page 7 they say they are suprised that no one gives a fuck about monero (privacy coins)

<t​esttank:matrix.org> Tdlr: retoswap, we ded

<s​herry:unredacted.org> monero is the last "actually" working privacy coin right?

practically yes

<s​herry:unredacted.org> pity that whole world

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> There isn't any trickery. The payouts for the qubic pool are higher so monero miners are migrating to it because they get 2.5x more xmr. They are also renting hashpower.

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> Well that and I do believe they are spoofing hashrate strategically to make themselves appear bigger than they are

Little correction: They don't get XMR. They get QBIC. But as most miners sell their mining earnings anyway, that does not matter.

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Its getting old

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Crying wolf on reddit

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> Right. And anyways their qubic emission is halving in several weeks

Well, I read that halvings are subject to confirmation by a vote. Maybe they will simply vote against?

<e​ddie:oblak.be> This crypto regulation tracker I found yesterday says crypto is banned in Iceland. But on the same token there are Icelandic firm accepting crypto as payment. Maybe that info on the tracker is outdated 🤔

<e​ddie:oblak.be> Anyone here has knowledge about the situation in Iceland?

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> Lol that'd be funny. But I think they want the halving because of scarcity

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> Their entire operation is based on roping people in with deflationary tokenomics

<a​lexandre:uii.pt> Is there any benchmark for cuda/opencl? GPUs supposedly are not efficient, but still curious

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> qubic-xmr.live

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> "first memecoin on qubic" -- Powered by $CFB

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> I just witnessed the hash rate monitor on this site drop from 1.6 ghs to now 950 mhs in 2 minutes

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Now it's 744 MH

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> 655 ...

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> my understanding is they only mine xmr part time

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> does the extra profit come from.... whatever else they're doing? allegedly AI training type jobd? but that hardly makes sense on CPU

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> lyza its a scam, they do nothing as such as training ✨️ AGI ✨️ 50% of the time

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> and they = cfb rented epyc cpus

<p​lowsof:matrix.org> can everyone srsly stfu about cubix xcancel.com/kayabaNerve/status/1949227029494403135

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Hater

<3​21bob321:monero.social> Unless its sustained for n+2, let it go

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> right but my question is, how does it provide 2.5x revenue? surely they're not just paying miners out of their own pockets

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> Paying themselves

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> This isnt true

<o​frnxmr:monero.social> This is true

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> The hashrate site with the "powered by CFB meme coin" makes me more confident it's a weird marketing scheme

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> What isn't true? It's more profitable to mine qubic, is it not?

<3​21bob321:monero.social> The amount of crap about it on reddit with the sky is falling, makes me think its a false flag

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> It is not

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> where is qubic traded? Tradeogre

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> MEXC and all the bucket shops

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> qubic currently has high emissions and its the flavor of the month pump and dump, so its more profitable to mine.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> tradeogre.com/exchange/QUBIC-USDT

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Nobody mines qubic

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> mexc.com/futures/QUBIC_USDT

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> books even more thin than tradeogre

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Its just wash traded garbage

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Yeah it's a scheme

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Bro mines monero, sells it,

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Mines qubic, sells it to himself and idiots

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Other miners get the pumped garbage qubic, but he gets qubic and monero

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> Obviously its garbage but it is profitable to mine lol. We saw the same thing with zephyr. Miners chase profits.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i create a project, i merge mine it with monero. If you mine on my pool, you get my shitcoin and i get monero. If i mine on my pool, i get shitcoin + monero.

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> i need to convince ppl to buy my shitcoin

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Moneros hashrate never dropped during zephyr hype. I suspect pools were merge mining zephyr and keeping the xmr

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> 2miners even delisted monero and kept zephyr 🤣

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Miners chase profits, sure. But monero's hashrate hasnt dropped at all

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Not with zeph, and not with qubic

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> zephyr isn't merge mined

<s​herry:unredacted.org> Mines qubic, sells it to himself and idiots

<s​herry:unredacted.org> Other miners get the pumped garbage qubic, but he gets qubic and monero

<s​herry:unredacted.org> mines qubic == mast******

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Says who?

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> theres nothing stopping a pool from mergemining it in secret

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> it's implemented on MoneroOcean, ask them

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> you can't merge mine a coin just because it's the same algo

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> IM MERGE MINING OFRN'S DOG

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> best doggo ever

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> Except maybe fingerprints in tzextra, but i dont think anyone ever checked

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> ?

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> what's your question? the coin needs to be written to be merge mined, it's not like, jsut an optional thing any miner can do to collect both rewards on any coin with the same algo

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> monero is merge-mineable, and zephyr is a monero fork

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> o.O

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> How has the hash rate of other random x coins been doing during qubic mania

you guys make me feel like starting up my rigs in.... summer

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> Or other CPU mined coins

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> TIA nioc

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> I havent paid attention. Zephyr was in the gutter the last time i checked

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> zephyr chain was down for a long time due to a bunch of fake deposits made on a centralized exchange or some shit, only recently became minable again

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> current world hash is a laughable 110 MH

monero network currently 6.1 GH/s

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> XTM solo hashrate has been decreasing but that's to be expected with the price action

<o​frnxmr:xmr.mx> They had the same inflation bug as haven

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> holy shit thats a lot

<l​ordx3nu:matrix.org> The network hash is that high after qubic dropped out?

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Apparently the network hash rate has gone up 800 MH/s since qubic initially started doing this.

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> people xmrigging harder to fight qubic

network will be back down to ~5GH/s by tomorrow

800MH/s is what we got from tari

<h​bs:matrix.org> Do we know when the qubic folks will make the price of XMR crash hard (if I understood correctly) so I can get some dry powder ready?

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> First of all

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> love the the profile picture

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> Secondly

<s​yntheticbird:monero.social> never

<h​bs:matrix.org> Was jk ;-)

<h​bs:matrix.org> Was taken by a fellow from the Soggy Monero Yacht Club during one of our unfortunate boating accidents

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> could take a note from tari and merge mine half our blocks with LTC 😎

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/NCRfAWSEapAsnogZpEbbMkdD

<m​onero.arbo:matrix.org> thought people might be interested. it's the clearest description of what they're doing I've read so far

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> If anyone has any critiques - or is or knows anyone who would interested to donate to this project. Any fundraising would be super helpful. thanks

<p​lowsof:monero.social> The website is offline. Explain what "exchange platform that is creating a censorship-resistance FX exchange for Monero." Means and how you will achieve it

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Can message me on here or on twitter too

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Yea it's not online. It's a crypto exchange to trade in Currency/ Agri-commodity markets

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> That are typically walgardened through kyc and other bullshit

<p​lowsof:monero.social> Including a link to a git(hub) repo of your teams works / prev projects would help

<p​lowsof:monero.social> Its not online? Ok , its a" crpto exchange " any other details to help answer the question?

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> It's done similar to how CFD perpetuals are pegged.

<p​lowsof:monero.social> Is it a localmonero fork. Is it a haveno fork. Is it an an xmrbazaar copy. Is it a "neroshop" instance , is it a phpBB forum where ppl make a post and ask to buy timber with gold backs and they handle it over dm's on telegram. What does FX mean

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> It requires people with kyc ~ to provably make the market -- so a monero or crypto user could confidently trust it

<p​lowsof:monero.social> "CFD perpetuals are pegged. " This means you have to use your brain to create something new. Show evidence of what you've created and why it's better than what exists

<p​lowsof:monero.social> For 10xmr i dont think you could create something entirely new that beats the above options in terms of censorship resistance unless its a telegram group

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> No it's not a fork of agora or haveno. It is layed out similar to a CEX perp exchange

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> FX means currency markets and other global commodities like HG/USDT Copper ~ KC Coffee, etc

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> monero and cex dont go together

<p​lowsof:monero.social> Its worse than i thought

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> I have a lot more info. Yeah it's true that CEX isn't good

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Chill dude it's like 1 page

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> and 1 picture

<p​lowsof:monero.social> You cant edit kunos after you post them.right?

<p​lowsof:monero.social> Not looking good

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Hahaha yes

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Gotcha I appreciate the feedback though

<p​lowsof:monero.social> Are you a dreamer or a dev

<s​bt:nope.chat> Probably a troll.

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> I am a developer but I am not that skilled.

<p​lowsof:monero.social> Dreamer then

<p​lowsof:monero.social> Thats my unfiltered impression of you and your kuno

<p​lowsof:monero.social> A ctrl+v, an image, didnt bother to provide 1 hyperlink

<s​bt:nope.chat> Bro is using a medium-like service for proposal.

<p​lowsof:monero.social> And you want people to open their wallet, ctrl+v an address, and click send (more work)

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> medium-like wym?

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Dude this isn't a pitch deck. It's one page kuno.

<s​bt:nope.chat> I can't even decline the cookie pop up. How fucked up is this page?

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> I agree it looks bad

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> I have to wait for changes to pushed

<w​ritemarble:matrix.org> Appreciate the feedback tho

<p​lowsof:monero.social> Hm

<b​asses:matrix.org> neroshop might be the real Haveno

<b​asses:matrix.org> no real release ever

<b​asses:matrix.org> Haveno somehow actually made a release

Neroshop has i2p SAM integration thing done recently (renamed to testshop) github.com/layters/testshop

Work in progress though, has 2 tags , one named "demo" and the other must be showcasing i2p support

<b​asses:matrix.org> hopefully vibe coding can increase development speed

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> vibe coding? tenor.com/view/vicetone-edm-house-m…tone-music-gif-15621031361458877928

<p​reland:monero.social> I’ve been ‘vibin’ the last couple weeks, and this is what I have determined as its main use cases:

<p​reland:monero.social> -getting the first step in the door on a project when you have “writer’s block”

<p​reland:monero.social> -planning out stuff

<p​reland:monero.social> -learning about obscure topics in coding so you can work on stuff you never would’ve learned or had the time to

<p​reland:monero.social> -webapp stuff (turns out having everyone code in common frameworks for easy stuff for the last decade gave them a lot to work with)

<p​reland:monero.social> It sucks at

<p​reland:monero.social> -understanding security vulnerabilities (from my estimation using it in modern CTFs it probably only has around a 5% success rate)

<p​reland:monero.social> -understanding what a project looks like (kinda a duh but cannot be understated for webapp or ui work)

<p​reland:monero.social> -understanding the big picture

<p​reland:monero.social> -working on pre-established codebases with unique philosophy

<p​reland:monero.social> -admitting that it is wrong without being prompted to admit as such (Sonnet seems better at this though, tbh Sonnet is top tier for coding if you are going to use it)

<r​iceandbeans:matrix.org> Anthropic makes OpenAI look like amateurs

<s​bt:nope.chat> I personally never found it appealing, even tho it might speed up the process. It also takes away the joy of programming. For trivial scenarios it might even work properly, but for anything more than that it will always fail.

<b​asses:matrix.org> cool list, thanks

<b​asses:matrix.org> >learning about obscure topics in coding so you can work on stuff you never would’ve learned or had the time to

<b​asses:matrix.org> how and what prompt?

<i​ty:itycodes.org> Lmao vibe coding

<p​reland:monero.social> Do you ever have the thought of “ooh X thing would be cool, but meh its too much work to learn the beginning of it \*sigh\* oh well”? LLMs can help with that

<i​ty:itycodes.org> Lmao

<p​reland:monero.social> They don’t really have a concept of “difficulty” or “obscurity”, so they just will make stuff as best they can regardless of quality

<p​reland:monero.social> Humans are bad at additive tasks, but we are incredibly good at subtractive tasks (that’s why the bar to be a movie critic is much lower than to be a movie creator)

<i​ty:itycodes.org> The only thing I had success with is some trivial single file programs that mostly consist of filling out structs with boiler plate I tell it to fill it up with

<i​ty:itycodes.org> It's overall very dumb and makes things take longer

<b​asses:matrix.org> but does it teach you "enough"?

<b​asses:matrix.org> probably just some high level explanation that you can get from any article

<b​asses:matrix.org> what model?

<p​reland:monero.social> That’s the fun part: it doesn’t

<p​reland:monero.social> You have to actually put in the work yourself to understand what it has made. However, it is better than just looking at example code, because it can show you a logical progression of how it was made

<p​reland:monero.social> My goto is Sonnet 4 on Copilot

<p​reland:monero.social> Gpt is….passable, but Sonnet is just….something else

<p​reland:monero.social> Which is extra impressive when you realize that Sonnet 4 should be vastly outmatched by gpt in all metrics (but isn’t in actual output)

<b​asses:matrix.org> btw preland u are using atomic distros?

<b​asses:matrix.org> actually lets continue in #monero-offtopic:monero.social

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> sigh

<1​7lifers:matrix.org> matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…matrix.org/tKYJxskYEqJMgVuarTOALIYI