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m-relay <gingeropolous:monero.social>  cherryservers.com/pricing/dedicated…-9754?region=de-frankfurt&billing=3 , you could get 1.625 MH of monero for 16.7k , assuming that much hardware is actually out there, 1 GH would run you 10.3 million. 
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m-relay <gingeropolous:monero.social> so which would actually do more.... the hash, or putting 10 mill of buy orders on the markets.... 
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m-relay <elongated:matrix.org> 100 btc 🤔 
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m-relay <elongated:matrix.org> So for 500 btc someone can 51% attack 
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m-relay <elongated:matrix.org> 🤪 
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m-relay <elongated:matrix.org> Isn’t that too cheap ? 
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m-relay <imprevisto:matrix.org> they have to keep it going probably though too 
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m-relay <jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org> that is hw cost not rental 
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m-relay 
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m-relay <sbt:nope.chat> Shouldn't be a problem for an early btc holder. Someone with 100k-200k btc. 
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m-relay <sbt:nope.chat> Shouldn't be a problem for an early btc holder. Someone with 10k-20k btc. 
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m-relay <sherry:unredacted.org> p2pool only support glibc? 
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m-relay <syntheticbird:monero.social> its so over musl bros 
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m-relay <sbt:nope.chat> It always was. 
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m-relay <sherry:unredacted.org> too fast: RandomX benchmark v1.1.8 
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m-relay <sherry:unredacted.org> Initializing (1 thread) ... 
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m-relay <sherry:unredacted.org> Memory initialized in 45.006 s 
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m-relay <sherry:unredacted.org> Initializing 1 virtual machine(s) ... 
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m-relay <sherry:unredacted.org> Running benchmark (1000 nonces) ... 
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m-relay <sherry:unredacted.org> Calculated result: 10b649a3f15c7c7f88277812f2e74b337a0f20ce909af09199cccb960771cfa1 
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m-relay <sherry:unredacted.org> Reference result:  10b649a3f15c7c7f88277812f2e74b337a0f20ce909af09199cccb960771cfa1 
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m-relay <sherry:unredacted.org> Performance: 155.296 hashes per second 
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sech1 What do you mean by "p2pool only support glibc"? It can be built with musl, in fact P2Pool CI does it for every commit 
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m-relay <sherry:unredacted.org> ok, i compiled failed on my klibc cross-compiler, at beginning i thought it's may not libc-portable 
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m-relay <sherry:unredacted.org> nevermind 
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m-relay <syntheticbird:monero.social> sbt: what are you? some sort of muslphobic? 
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m-relay <syntheticbird:monero.social> /s 
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m-relay <syntheticbird:monero.social> i forgot to hit send 
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m-relay <monero_e:matrix.org> Tradeogre is down  
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m-relay <monero_e:matrix.org> Does it happen frequently or we are in a middle of an exit scam 
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nioc occasionally they are down for a short time 
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m-relay <ravfx:xmr.mx> I dont remember seeing it down 
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m-relay <ravfx:xmr.mx> but I assume they do maintainance yeah 
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nioc currently down 
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m-relay <ravfx:xmr.mx> yeah, from my side too 
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sech1 Yes, TO is down and it's not a regular maintenance 
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m-relay <monero_e:matrix.org> How do you know 
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m-relay <monero_e:matrix.org> Theres any announcement anywhere 
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sech1 Because I use TO almost daily, and it didn't happen before 
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m-relay <hbs:matrix.org> Maybe it's because of the QBIC order book :-) 
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m-relay <submarine7621:matrix.org> rofl 
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xenumonero samourai wallet devs are chainging their plea to guilty -   x.com/theragetech/status/1950254857002082603
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m-relay <syntheticbird:monero.social> that means only one thing 
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m-relay <syntheticbird:monero.social> the true samourai wallet devs are dead and have been replaced by a gov controlled puppet 
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m-relay <basses:matrix.org> Syn is not a fed that is working on Rust (lang approved by US gov) monero node 
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m-relay <syntheticbird:monero.social> this 
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m-relay <syntheticbird:monero.social> and i'm not a fed that defended the Intel ME 
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m-relay <syntheticbird:monero.social> and i'm not a fed that defended the Intel ME on r/monero 
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m-relay <basses:matrix.org> that is a very new low 
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m-relay <monero_e:matrix.org> We got exit scammed? 
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m-relay <writemarble:matrix.org> MEXC freezing no-kyc withdraws for anyone too? 
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m-relay <writemarble:matrix.org> War on Privacy is in full swing today 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> define "we" 
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m-relay <monero_e:matrix.org> Tradeogre users 
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m-relay <monero_e:matrix.org> obvious 
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m-relay <eddie:oblak.be> Does anyone know if renting hashpower can ever by profitable? 
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m-relay <writemarble:matrix.org> unlikely 
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m-relay <writemarble:matrix.org> highly not profitable 
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m-relay <eddie:oblak.be> then what would people motivate to do it anyway? 
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m-relay <writemarble:matrix.org> Marketing scam 
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m-relay <eddie:oblak.be> 😂 
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m-relay <eddie:oblak.be> so nicehash for example, just a scam in your opinion? 
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m-relay <eddie:oblak.be> I know they don't even offer XMR, just wondering about the strategies behind such ventures 
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m-relay <eddie:oblak.be> "here we go again", qubic passed the 2GH/s mark.. 
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m-relay <eddie:oblak.be> If they are renting, why throwing so much money into a bottomless pit 
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m-relay <eddie:oblak.be> making the DC's rich? 
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m-relay <writemarble:matrix.org> Oh I am not saying contract mining is a scam 
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m-relay <writemarble:matrix.org> But your paying someone else to cover electricity maintainance setup etc 
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m-relay <writemarble:matrix.org> Prob making a killing off his own qubic bags or justifying the promotion Qubic is getting 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> ``` 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> cost to rent = $2 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> xmr revenue = $1 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> = not economically viable to rent  
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> merge mined tari revenue = $0.5 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> merge mined qubic revenue = $0.5 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> = now we can break even 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> ``` 
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m-relay <eddie:oblak.be> hmm 
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m-relay <eddie:oblak.be> I was reading about merge mining today, first time I heard about it was through Tari 
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m-relay <eddie:oblak.be> But apparently it's nothing really new 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Doge and LTC are merge mined 
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m-relay <eddie:oblak.be> I learned about it, yes 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Its how LTC miners pay the bills (selling doge-dead-coin to retards) 
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m-relay <eddie:oblak.be> I find it a bit of an odd concept 
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semeion Does anyone know what's going on with Tradeogre? The website has been offline for many hours... 
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m-relay <basses:matrix.org> now I noticed that im no longer in their matrix room... 
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m-relay <basses:matrix.org> why tf I kept reading it as trocador 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Semeion, did you have coins on there> 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I wonder what moneroocean is doing 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> nvm, moneroocean has disabled almost all coins 
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m-relay 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Qubic currently reports to be #1 pool 🤣 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 15% of last 1000 blocks and 19% of last 100 blocks. Supportxmr 24% of last 100 
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m-relay <eddie:oblak.be> act of defense? 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> no 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> They use tradeogre to sell coins and vuy xmr 
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m-relay <eddie:oblak.be> oh ok 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Cant sell the other coins w/o tradeogre. Their wallets are all inaccessible 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> So they probably turned them off so that people arent mining to inaccessible wallets 
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semeion m-relay: yes, I have coins in Tradeogre 
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m-relay <writemarble:matrix.org> TradeOgre has such a nice old school trading interface 
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semeion yeah, the website still down, I hope my balance is safe 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Ouch. I hope for youe sake that your balance(s) is(are) safe 
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m-relay <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> If down for extended time, either a) rug b) fed disclosure coming soon