<ravfx:xmr.mx> Imajin not using tx_extra for malware c&c

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Please deprecate that thing. Thanks

<preland> Tbh I don’t like the idea of having any arbitrarily mutable/interprable information on the blockchain. Not only does that open up the network to “vanity” bloat, but it also turns the blockchain into an ad hoc decentralized et infinitum cloud storage platform that goes to the highest bidder.

also making it harder for people to host their own nodes

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Yeah, or nice malware c&c that can't be taked down. More and more are using solana and eth for that purpose, its just a question of time before people use tx_extra for that purpose

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Thats an actual reason for the world admin to try to actually ban the thing

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Get rid of tx_extra

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Yesterday.... Please

<namenet:matrix.org> Does anyone know what happened to the getmonero.org website update? When will the UI be updated?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> probably closer to fcmp

<namenet:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Can I track progress anywhere?

<preland> @namenet:matrix.org: I’d suggest looking at active branches/forks of the website repo

<preland> If there aren’t any…..then it might take longer than fcmp lol

<zec:unredacted.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu

<zec:unredacted.org> Delete your zcash gobbledygook

<zec:unredacted.org> Delete it now

<zec:unredacted.org> Löschen Sie es jetzt oder tragen Sie die Konsequenzen

<zec:unredacted.org> Tu nicht so, als hättest du Wissen das du nicht wirklich hast

<zec:unredacted.org> Arschloch

<ravfx:xmr.mx> what about ztrash?

<zec:unredacted.org> Lösche die Beiträge und wir werden friedlich sein

<ravfx:xmr.mx> When people try to get people to delete proof of scam using other language, so funny

<zec:unredacted.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: I will not send rubbish information

<zec:unredacted.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: @spirobel:kernal.eu is German I speak his language

<zec:unredacted.org> Ein Stück Scheiße

<ravfx:xmr.mx> What he posted broke your pumpa or what?

<ravfx:xmr.mx> I know I know, every scam want good exit liquidity

<zec:unredacted.org> Schließe monerochan.news und wir hören auf

<zec:unredacted.org> Andernfalls werden wir Ihre website ddos

<zec:unredacted.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu Hören Sie mir jetzt zu, Sie haben 24 Stunden

<namenet:matrix.org> @plowsof:matrix.org

<namenet:matrix.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: monerochan.news/article/17 is pissing off Zcash shills

<namenet:matrix.org> I mean they are proving spirobel's point...

<ravfx:xmr.mx> I see, will read, thanks

<preland> @namenet:matrix.org: Tbh yeah

<preland> It’s a pretty well written article, pushes the line a lot while still being aware that there is a line; tbh quite rare in the modern era of inflammatory rhetoric

<preland> As for their claims of insane scalability….don’t worry on that

<preland> I have a “feeling” that Monero is going to become a lot more scalable after FCMP, more than anyone now thinks imaginable.

<preland> I just need to get done with my skeleton in the closet and then the real work can begin.

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<torir:matrix.org> Cult-like communities built to hype up coins is why I migrated to Monero. When a community shuts out legitimate criticism it's a huge red flag to me.

<ravfx:xmr.mx> The first privacy coin I brought was ZEC. It was a long time ago

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Then I was looking to withdraw it... and was thinking what the fsck, I can't even withdraw it...

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Oh, I have to make a bitcoin-like T address to withdraw it... so what's the point?!?

<ravfx:xmr.mx> DUMP

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Then I found Monero

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Not perfect but also not lying there ass

<zecmoon:unredacted.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu DOXXED: 0x0.st/Kjgg.jpg

<zecmoon:unredacted.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu DOXXED: 0x0.st/Kjgg.jpg

<alexanarcho:matrix.alexanarcho.live> wtf is happening

<zecmoon:unredacted.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu DOXXED: 0x0.st/Kjgg.jpg

<zecmoon:unredacted.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu DOXXED: 0x0.st/Kjgg.jpg

<zecmoon:unredacted.org> 😆🫵

<zecmoon:unredacted.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu DOXXED: 0x0.st/Kjgg.jpg

<ravfx:xmr.mx> ZEC people are crying

<zecmoon:unredacted.org> FUCK WITH ZCASH U GET SLAUGHTERED

<zecmoon:unredacted.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu DOXXED: 0x0.st/Kjgg.jpg

<zecmoon:unredacted.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu DOXXED: 0x0.st/Kjgg.jpg

<ravfx:xmr.mx> If they could only make it Z-only

<ravfx:xmr.mx> that at least would make it useful

<torir:matrix.org> @alexanarcho:matrix.alexanarcho.live: monerochan.news/article/17 was published.

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<ravfx:xmr.mx> I hope Z people would realise that many people would not have seen that post if they did not come to kyakya kya about it right?

<torir:matrix.org> The Streisand effect has started. I certainly wouldn't have seen it if they hadn't made a fuss.

<alexanarcho:matrix.alexanarcho.live> @torir:matrix.org: same

<ravfx:xmr.mx> yeah, same for me

<preland> @alexanarcho:matrix.alexanarcho.live: Same

<torir:matrix.org> My thoughts on Zcash: Is Zcash's privacy tech legitimately impressive? Yes, yes it is. But the fact is that the actual utilization of z-addresses is extremely low, and very few people in Zcash openly acknowledge that. They call it private but ignore actual practical issues with the privacy that exist today. It's become just another hypecoin.

<torir:matrix.org> I have no loyalty to Monero. I will abandon it for a better coin, but I stay with it because the community is actually intellectually honest.

<preland> Too many of Monero’s community writings gets buried in the sands of time

<preland> Let’s get this article outside of the community imo

<preland> @torir:matrix.org: This. This is why I am still around, despite all the crap I’ve went through in the community

<preland> Every other crypto is cool.

<preland> Monero is useful.

<preland> And more importantly, Monero does not care about the odd almost religious followings of specific crypto attributes. It simply wants to be the best private decentralized currency. Nothing more, nothing less.

<namenet:matrix.org> @torir:matrix.org: Honestly same. I did not know monerochan.news existed until the shills posted it

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Yeah, just bookmarked it too, did not know about monerochan.news

<namenet:matrix.org> This was clearly an attempt to demoralize spirobel and stop him from completing the Monero browser wallet. It was obvious from the way they were doxxing him, inciting violence, and threatening to DDOS his website

<spirobel:bladerunn.in> spirobel Delete the post

<spirobel:unredacted.org> spirobel Delete the post

<spirobel:bladerunn.in> spirobel Delete the post

<spirobel:unredacted.org> spirobel Delete the post

<spirobel:bladerunn.in> spirobel Delete the post

<spirobel:unredacted.org> spirobel Delete the post

<spirobeltaiwan:bladerunn.in> Hi I'm spirobel

<spirobeltaiwan:bladerunn.in> I live in Taiwan and I like scamming. I like LYING about Zcash

<monerobull:matrix.org> i somehow doubt that

<monerobull:matrix.org> @plowsof:matrix.org: can we get a ban on bladerunn.in

<spirobeltaiwan:bladerunn.in> I am a LIAR and SCAMMER

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<321bob321> Lock room

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spirobelthescammer... hmm... who's this now?

spirobel?

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ok, not spirobel.

a nobody troll trolling another troll.

so, a regular day in monero land.

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plowsof can you hammer this fella for us?

tks.

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<namenet:matrix.org> @plowsof:matrix.org

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bruv.

where are the janitors when you need them.

<namenet:matrix.org> Can someone ban this idiot already?

hey spirobelthescammer, make me a sandwich and stop posting nonsense.

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double ham, just one slice of yellow cheese.

hi, i'm rotten.

you are getting shown the door in just a few.

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endor00 sgp_ plowsof charuto @diego:cypherstack.com God and the virgins... monerobull?

someone take the trash out, please...

xmrscott Mumuks...

will anyone listen our requests...

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<321bob321> @banhammer:matrix.org

,/kickmuteandban spirobelthescammer

<321bob321> Lol

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I can actually make you stfu.

Just wait until one of the janitors wakes up.

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No, I am deleting your entire self from here.

Get a hobby. Knucklehead.

Go rub one off.

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Delete yourself.

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I'm lying about ur mum.

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zzz.

ever visited a pr0n site?

maybe a digital free e-learning platform?

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idk, took a youtube crash course on how to knit beanies?

what post? what we?

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you are likely 49 and living in your mom's basement.

gtfo.

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lmfao, all of this is because spiro made a bs post in a stupid static site???

who touched you when you were a kid, my dude?

show me on the doll...

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smd bro.

<namenet:matrix.org> Finally jeez

<heyadora:matrix.org> I missed all the fun

<alexanarcho:matrix.alexanarcho.live> How dare you! > <dukenukem> lmfao, all of this is because spiro made a bs post in a stupid static site???

<alexanarcho:matrix.alexanarcho.live> Static sites are not stupid!

bladerunn.in was temp de-deferated from here today. The admin of this home server gives accounts out on an invite only basis, no spamming, nothing illegal. They banned the accounts used today.

de-defederated = re-federated? :D

Lol

Typo but it makes sense, thanks for the save

And what happened before?

<eliav:matrix.org> Hey guys, I want to start running a local Monero node to contribute to decentralization, but I don't have much experience and technical knowledge. What's the easiest to start with (pruned / localhost)?

I mean, easiest of easiest would be to buy a nodo cuz they plug and play

<eliav:matrix.org> You mean a public intersection?

I mean moneronodo.com

<eliav:matrix.org> thanks

am assuming you've already seen these: guides.monero.com/docs/tutorials/monero-node

and -> monero.how/how-to-run-monero-node

<17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> oo

<17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> shiny little silent box

no clue if either are out of date, but a wizard will clarify if I'm wrong(usually)

They get hot af 17lifes

but yes shiny and smol

<17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> why does it have a headphone jack

<17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> so you can listen music while syncing? ._.

wait does it really?

<17lifers:mikuplushfarm.ovh> OftenFaded: mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mikuplushf…rm.ovh/QkMggyWkPWVLwqxXBBrriePk.png (afbeelding.png)

I'm assuming for blind folks accessibility options

crazy our phones are 'too thin' for 3.5mm but not our nodos

<zcash:bladerunn.in> plowsof: Big mistake

<zcash:bladerunn.in> What did you think would happen when you messed with Zcash?

<zcash:bladerunn.in> 192.169.4.20 You're an idiot for exposing your own IP by using it as your username 😆🫵

<zcash:bladerunn.in> @eliav:matrix.org: Delete any Monero-related software and get Zcash!

<zcash:bladerunn.in> unstoppable private money (zcash) + unstoppable liquidity (near) = unstoppable machinery of freedom

<zcash:bladerunn.in> Resources:

<zcash:bladerunn.in> z.cash/learn

<zcash:bladerunn.in> zcashcommunity.com/zcash-education

<zcash:bladerunn.in> zechub.wiki

<zcash:bladerunn.in> Zcash developers are academics, scientists, entrepreneurs, politicians, lawyers, and highly educated. Monero developers are drug users, scammers, retards, criminals, and lack education. Zcash welcomes anyone with a brain!

oh no.

he is back.

call the janitors all over again!

plowsof diego Mumuks endor00 someone ban this guy!

xmrscott can we please blacklist `bladerunn.in` matrix homeserver via banhammer mjolnir bot, plz? 2nd account that comes in from that synapse... pigeons the angels...

<zcash:bladerunn.in> Every second I speak here, at least 1 BTC is being swapped into Zcash. It's happening now because we have robust DEX options available.

<zcash:bladerunn.in> Monero users have been waiting for years for this opportunity to arise. It will never happen. Your developers are so stupid, they will never develop any working DEX. Your developers are retards who reveal their own IP addresses in their usernames!

yeah bruv, you are retaliating against the post about the ztrash culture, by causing this ruckus and making multiple alts.

it looks amazing on ztrash!!!

<plowsof:matrix.org> "Big mistake" 😆

you are adding more fuel to the fire, you fucking ass.

go touch some grass already.

<plowsof:matrix.org> reported for doxxing my ip FYI > <@zcash:bladerunn.in> 192.169.4.20 You're an idiot for exposing your own IP by using it as your username 😆🫵

quit reporting m8.

just ban.

smh...

<namenet:matrix.org> I'm skeptical that this is actually a Zcash supporter. I refuse to believe someone is this dumb. It's probably a troll > <dukenukem> it looks amazing on ztrash!!!

namenet we are full of trolls this side of the Mississippi!!!

When it's not a rando nitwit, it's just us trolling each other.

Regular and lovely Tuesday morning in #monero!

<namenet:matrix.org> dukenukem: Why are there so many? Is it really community members having fun? I've never seen this kind of behavior in any other community in my life. Even 4chan doesn't have this many trolls...

lol

namenet how long ago did you start visiting these lovely Internet places?

ever frequented IRC channels in your life?

<namenet:matrix.org> dukenukem: I don't know how to use IRC

namenet alright... let's supposed IRC is 4chan, but instead 8chan and on stereoids, with some frenetic monkeys pushing buttons...

there you have the why this feels so strong to you...

<namenet:matrix.org> I have a lot to learn

and this is libera, don't even go to invite-only, more private IRC networks.

the stuff goes wilder than here.

much wilder.

namenet initially we were all IRC dinosaurs and wannabe dinosaurs, like me.

but then the cool kids dropped that bs federated protocol matrix...

<namenet:matrix.org> dukenukem: I don't like Matrix

fluffer had an issue somewhere about deciding whether irc-only or matrix-irc mix and match shyte.

<namenet:matrix.org> I'm switching to IRC

namenet my brother in christ!!!! welcome aboard!!!

you will need this: irssi.org

go read the docs... install it, connect, fool around...

please, cloak your hostname.

don't be blasting your IP address to everyone.

<fijxu:nadeko.net> Why not weechat

right plowsof???

rightttttttttttttt?

weechat

weechat is coolio too.

I just prefer irssi myself.

to each their own.

I see

there's a gheyer client called Quassel.

im seeking professional help to get my ip redacted and wiped from this chat (incl logs)

maybe do quassel if you like more UI eye candy.

irssi and weechat is for terminal unshowered clown neckbeards.

meow

quassel is ecosystem-locked, tho right?

anyone know how I get my name to not show twice (or this libera.chat in brackets) in the display name of the bridge?

<sbt:nope.chat> OftenFaded: Start using matrix /s

<tisktisk:xmr.mx> @sbt:nope.chat: and do what now?

OftenFaded: because your irc registered user is different from nick it will do that

but there isn't much config you can do, besides feedback (it's the new bridge I'm developing)

maaan, I don't even know how I did this😩

time to hard-reset with much more research and intention, nick and user must match✅ and libera.chat's web client must be avoided✅

whoops, will keep spam in offtopic, my b

wait, this bridge != offtopic bridge, is it?

it's not, also all possible name identifiers are the same now, what gives?

I'm just starting to set up Monero. What is the "typical" length of time to sync the blockchain for a full node? It's been about three days so far and I have 652K block left to go.

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Ryushin: Less than a day normally.

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Are you using an hard drive?

br-m: ZFS. At first I ran it on my 30 drive HDD pool, download half in about 10 hours. Then it started crawling. Moved it to my ZFS SSD pool and it really wasn't much faster. Changed the block size from 128K to 16K and that helped. Moved it back to the 30 drive HDD pool this morning. Tuned ZFS a bit more and change monerod to use --db-sync-mode=fast:async:10000.

So it's down to 636K blocks. So it's going.

I was reading that others are seeing upwards of a week when using a single SSD.

single SSD is like a day give or take

HDD is painful

network data handling optimizations are currently being work on

not sure how they will effect IBD

18:31:33 <OftenFaded> wait, this bridge != offtopic bridge, is it?

18:37:31 <OftenFaded> it's not, also all possible name identifiers are the same now, what gives?

it is same

Host mask: ~OftenFade@user/tisktisk

nioc: Probably a single HDD would be very painful. Right now with ZFS it's going "okay". But I turned of sync writes and I also have 128GB of ARC cache. So not the typical system.

yeah cache is good :)

when I was using the SSD pool I noticed a huge mount re-writes, so write amplification, so that is why I moved it back to the HDD pool. Probably because ZFS is a Copy on Write (CoW) file system.

<plowsof:matrix.org> RavFX has a nice guide for HDD+ram you may find interesting

br-m: I suppose I could have put the node on a RAM drive until it synced then moved it off after it finished downloading.

<plowsof:matrix.org> HDD performs better with the upcoming FCMP++ upgrade

<kayabanerve:matrix.org> Better than it did

I made a 200GB RAM drive. I'm rsyncing the blockchain over to it, then I'll have it continue after modyfing the location. I guess I should have done this to start with.

DataHoarder: as a headsup, I dm'd your matrix acc--I just wanted to show screenshots of the different display-handles I see on matrix-side(which is why I thought different bridges)

there are two bridges, m-relay and the new one (puppets)

note the matrix display info might not replicate to all channels due to matrix issues :D

So I've been watching the read and writes to the RAM tmpfs drive. It's pretty so many re-writes going on. I see why some people were upset about the wearing of their SSD downloading the bloackchain. There is a bootstrap option, but I could not find any information on it. Perhaps it downloads the blockchain.raw file? I read that file was way out of date so I stopped downloading it.

The 260GB RAM drive is working great for this, but not many poeple have that much RAM.

I only have 9K blocks left to go, so when it's done I'll copy it from the RAM drive to a ZFS dataset.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Ryushin: No, the bootstrap option just fwds your rpc requests to a random node