<stormyyy:tchncs.de> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/tchncs.de/…79ecd929a1db1982981320715796480.png (2025-10-27_19.22.21.png)

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> :)

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> asdgjdsag

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @stormyyy:tchncs.de: can u make a zcash logo instead? monero is out of fashion

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> R u the real battbot

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: zcash is basically a 5% move away from flipping monero. waiting for the meltdowns

<in4crypto:matrix.org> don't be zidelined

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Please tell me how to obtain zcash on my ledger or trezor. Thanks.

<ravfx:xmr.mx> PS, not interrested in address that start by T.

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Retards

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: hardware wallets are a false sense of security. don't use ledger with zcash. there are bugs. zashi wallet is good enough

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @elongated:matrix.org: at around ~$390 zec flips xmr

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Sure sure. And my name is Gertrude

<in4crypto:matrix.org> zillions

<in4crypto:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/iJfqzWWZmbPLKYgaCnoElVmI.png (image.png)

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> "false sense of security" But enough about zcash. Ba dum tss.

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Linux Desktol is going to be raped hard soon thanks to all the normies jumping wagon bcause of the evangilists. No one running Linux run anti-malwares except like mailserver and its so easy to push on AUR or Guru

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> People should be actually looking at the pkgbuilds on the aur anyway.

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: windows/mac is more secure

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Meaning crypto harvester are coming to our beloved platform and 99% of the people have no protection

<in4crypto:matrix.org> linux was never about security

<elongated:matrix.org> Wait for arrests 🤣 your zooko will kneel > <@in4crypto:matrix.org> zillions

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Dont you think I know that bot?

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @elongated:matrix.org: when zcash goes to $100k larry fink and the us government will try arresting zcash users because of how private it is. they will fail

<ravfx:xmr.mx> At the end hardware wallet are a must.

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Be a ledger, a trezor or some other nice thing like the one r4v4g3r made, I think

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Ztrash have ledger and trezor support since the beginning

<ravfx:xmr.mx> But no Z supprt because they dont care about privacy, they care about compliance and ngu

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Delusional

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> whats up with all the zcash shilling 😭

<in4crypto:matrix.org> bitcoin = http, zcash = https

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> surely there's a zcash matrix room?

<ravfx:xmr.mx> There Z are actually sound but they need to be compliant

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Try shill it in bitcoin channels not here

<ravfx:xmr.mx> So they wont support it where it matter and just give a fake sence of security

<in4crypto:matrix.org> monero privacy is broken

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> @elongated:matrix.org: are these bots or something lmfaoo???

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @elongated:matrix.org: I shill alternatives that work

[citation needed]

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: And you are a broken record

(optional privacy too XD)

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Still waiting for answer

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @stormyyy:tchncs.de: no i'm real fr

<ravfx:xmr.mx> How I can get Z zcash on my ledger

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> "monero privacy is broken"

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> refuses to elaborate

move to #monero-offtopic it can host lively discussions

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> They come from the #zcash-warriors channel 🙂

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: don't use hardware wallets they can get backdoored

<elongated:matrix.org> @fartbubbler:matrix.org: You mean 1cent per post groups ?

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> @in4crypto:matrix.org: anything can get backdoored ...

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I dont think this is the real battbot > <@ravfx:xmr.mx> Dont you think I know that bot?

<in4crypto:matrix.org> the ledger cto is retarded. don't trust ledger use zashi

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Your os is already backdoored, at leasy you plug scan the qrcode as needed, its not online full time

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> lordi lord

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> how would i uae zashi?

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> @elongated:matrix.org: I'm assuming, no one has actually cared about Zcash in years.

it's telling when the first thing people come is "market cap flip"

<elongated:matrix.org> @fartbubbler:matrix.org: Someone needs to dump their bags

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> @elongated:matrix.org: eyup

like ??? just use the private coin for private stuff

doesn't matter what price it is, if it can be used privately and is trusted

<ravfx:xmr.mx> So ztrash excuse for no Z support on any hardware wallet is because its backdoored, while all os are backdoored and its fscking easy to get into any random pc/craptop/phone

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> No one cares about actual utility in the cryptocurrency space anymore

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Only moon

<in4crypto:matrix.org> "I'm assuming, no one has actually cared about Zcash in years."

<in4crypto:matrix.org> zill early

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> DataHoarder: fr as long as the price isn't fluctuating insanely it doesn't matter

<in4crypto:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/JHZJkOywIUSyzgKVYfWUCpFD.png (image.png)

<in4crypto:matrix.org> why aren't they swapping into the broken monero i wonder?

<in4crypto:matrix.org> 128.99 btc swapped for 59,885.44 zec in the past few weeks

because monero is private so you can't see it dummy

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> @fartbubbler:matrix.org: i do like number go up !

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> People also pour thousands into Labubus

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> What's your point

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Congrats, now go back to your cave ; washing isn’t buying 🤣

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> @fartbubbler:matrix.org: labubus must be the next gold

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> and they aren't trackable

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Gonna bury mine in the back yard for a rainy day

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> bwahaha

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> time for labubu ETF

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> tLabubu

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @elongated:matrix.org: when xmr is added to throchain promise me you'll swap into zcash

<in4crypto:matrix.org> old privacy -> new privacy

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Can’t get more retarded than this

time to buy doge, melon tusk will tweet 2morrow

<in4crypto:matrix.org> broken ring signatures with backdoors -> provable encrypted zk proofs

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Nah I only trust the real privacy coin

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Verge

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @elongated:matrix.org: where is fcmp? where are the upgrades?

ok, going back to my cat video

<in4crypto:matrix.org> zcash is upgrading as we speak. our devs work. monero is slow

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @in4crypto:matrix.org: 3rd time asking

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Whats the point of Z if everyone only support the T

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Before you go to zero

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: It's almost like that was done by design or something

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: have u seen the orchard numbers?

<in4crypto:matrix.org> zechub.wiki/dashboard

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Have you seen holders moving it to ztrash ?

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @fartbubbler:matrix.org: Yeah. It have to be trackable and all, its like... A backdoor to get people invest in fake privacy

<in4crypto:matrix.org> 4.1m zec is shielded

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Does thorchain support zcash? Or only tcash? > <@in4crypto:matrix.org> when xmr is added to throchain promise me you'll swap into zcash

<in4crypto:matrix.org> in orchard

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Does thorchain support zcash? Or only tcash?

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Normies are dump, I wonder how much brought ztrash to withdraw to there T address thinking it was private

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Congrats now part of your supply is actually private 🤣

<elongated:matrix.org> Xmr has entire supply private

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Does thorchain support zcash? Or only tcash?

<elongated:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Trashcash

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @elongated:matrix.org: you can track old xmr supply before ringct

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Thats a very good question, someone have to verify

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Go learn

<in4crypto:matrix.org> i already learned

<in4crypto:matrix.org> monero is the past, zcash is the future

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Learn the amounts were never “non private”

02:40:46 <br-m> <in4crypto:matrix.org> why aren't they swapping into the broken monero i wonder?

02:41:17 <DataHoarder> because monero is private so you can't see it dummy

02:45:40 <br-m> <ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Does thorchain support zcash? Or only tcash?

:D

<in4crypto:matrix.org> no one uses http anymore. https is the standard

<ravfx:xmr.mx> I brought my only ztrash in 2017

> can track before ringct

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Its the past

says that monero does nothing but also that monero upgrades

double think, amazing

<spirobel:kernal.eu> @in4crypto:matrix.org: we are ahead and I see more and more zcashers liking this tweet x.com/spirobel/status/1982489443333537887

<ravfx:xmr.mx> I sold it two hours after because I could not withdraw

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Because my address began with z

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu: no one cares about ur propaganda

<ravfx:xmr.mx> And the exchange complained It must start with t

<spirobel:kernal.eu> @in4crypto:matrix.org: @in4crypto:matrix.org: switch over now. we have the better arguments. tachyon is a step in the wrong direction

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Projection level: IMAX

@ravfx:xmr.mx: damn the sanctions on Ruzzia are going far and back in time!

<spirobel:kernal.eu> we welcome you with open arms

<spirobel:kernal.eu> just switch over

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Go back to retard club of ztrash holders

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu: zooko alr debunked ur bullshit

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Zooko said they can make zcash non private 🤣

<spirobel:kernal.eu> @in4crypto:matrix.org: no he hasnt look at his answer. his project gets blocked by tachyon

<spirobel:kernal.eu> x.com/zooko/status/1982953562650095679

is this guy for real?

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu: he doesn't understand ur gibberish

<elongated:matrix.org> hooftly1: Yes a real guy paid to spread shit for 1cent per post

<spirobel:kernal.eu> @in4crypto:matrix.org: verify via twitter this is really you otherwise we ban you for impersonation

<elongated:matrix.org> 1cent army

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i think its imposter

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu: ban me idc

<in4crypto:matrix.org> why would i verify to u losers?

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @elongated:matrix.org: That was because of compliance right.

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Zcash have to be backdoorable or trackable in some way

ofrnxmr: yeah specially about the "when x or y" rings the old timer, plus backdoor stuff plus the "thorchain soon" stuff

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Make it traceable again criminal but private for normie

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Gtfo

all the usuals

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: wtf are u saying?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Near intents promoted as private 🤣

lol

<in4crypto:matrix.org> have u even read the zcash orchard paper?

<in4crypto:matrix.org> orchard is trustless

<in4crypto:matrix.org> it's not backdoorable

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> But it funds and settles to tcash

<elongated:matrix.org> DataHoarder: They are provided script

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Can someone link that X thread about making zcash traceable again criminal, it was from that zooko guy > <@in4crypto:matrix.org> wtf are u saying?

<spirobel:kernal.eu> if he doesnt understand "how much TPS will tachyon bring?" I dont know how to help you. You are needlessly insulting and most likely an imposter. Provide proof on twitter or get banned. > <@in4crypto:matrix.org> he doesn't understand ur gibberish

ofrnxmr means a specific impostor that tries to spread the fresh FUD of the day, it's a regular elongated

usually very topical

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Yep

<in4crypto:matrix.org> monero is actually filled with schizos

<in4crypto:matrix.org> ease of the drugs

y u so mad?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Its 2nd time impersonating battbot

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Can you buy them with that Z trash?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @ravfx:xmr.mx: No

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Learn of the English

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Or no store trust that backdoored shotcoin?

oh I only saw the in4crypto stuff name

never saw battbot

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> You can buy btc using tcash tho

as usual it's funny on IRC side

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> DataHoarder: In4crypto is battbot's twitter handle

ah yeah still waiting for that Tweet to be posted

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> x.com/zooko/status/863202798883577856

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu: zooko isn't responsible for tachyon it's sean's project

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @fartbubbler:matrix.org: There you go @in4crypto:matrix.org your answer

are you here just to whine?

<ravfx:xmr.mx> How can you trust that and complain that offline wallet are backdoored as the reason they dont support Z affress

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: so what? let me get fluffypony working with the feds from years ago? move on

<in4crypto:matrix.org> orchard is provably secure and private

yeah the impostor

<in4crypto:matrix.org> "yeah the impostor"

<in4crypto:matrix.org> schizos

<ravfx:xmr.mx> When Z address support in offline wallets

keep bringing the same points every time, so yeah

<in4crypto:matrix.org> hooftly1: no i want to discuss zcash overtaking xmr and invite people to the zcash party

"points"

"overtaking"

overtaking in what? price?

<spirobel:kernal.eu> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: @in4crypto:matrix.org is 100% an imposter. his argument also does not make sense. Zooko didnt "debunk" what I said. His project is getting blocked by the work on tachyon and people like mert try to cancel it entirely. So he is absolutely not pro tachyon and going out of its way to disagree with criticism of it.

<elongated:matrix.org> Fluffy doesn’t work on monero, your zooko does > <@in4crypto:matrix.org> so what? let me get fluffypony working with the feds from years ago? move on

why is that relevant, again

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Because crypto is all about "when moon?"

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> That's the only thing that matters, right?

where is the Twitter post on x.com/in4crypto :)

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @fartbubbler:matrix.org: Its the case for most people including that ztrash shill

but they don't even service the same purpose. if you really think Zcash has even close to the same ideals as XMR you are on a useless endeavour

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @fartbubbler:matrix.org: why is xmr being used on darknets adoption but not dex swaps on zashi?

<ravfx:xmr.mx> They want use to pump it for them so they can all do dumperino on us

right

<in4crypto:matrix.org> hooftly1: no one cares about ideals. monero uses broken ring signatures

<in4crypto:matrix.org> privacy is the end goal

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Then claim the bounties

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Go on then

yes because dev isn't happening the fuck outta here

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu: mert is building an independent core

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Make yourself some real money son

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> It's broken right?>

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> It's free money then

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Go get it

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> You can even buy more shitcoins with it!

<in4crypto:matrix.org> chainalysis alr claimed

<spirobel:kernal.eu> you claimed earlier that he debunked my claims. see you are full of it > <@in4crypto:matrix.org> zooko isn't responsible for tachyon it's sean's project

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @in4crypto:matrix.org: So again answer me if privacy is the endgoal

<ravfx:xmr.mx> WHERE MY FUCKONG Z ADRESSE SO I CAN DEPOSIT ZCASH ON MY LEDGER OR TREZOR..

<ravfx:xmr.mx> WHY THE FUCK I CAN'T WITHDRAW FROM ANYWHERE OTHER THAN A T ADDRESS

FBI

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: lol and they can’t provide service to actually track 🤣

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu: he debunked ur claims by claiming ignorance. no one cares what u have to say

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> no u

<in4crypto:matrix.org> you claim monero's privacy is superior when current ring signatures are broken, spy nodes exist, development has effectively ceased, and it's delisted everywhere

<spirobel:kernal.eu> @in4crypto:matrix.org: no he didnt debunk anything. You cant debunk by claiming ignorance. It just shows he is not onboard with tachyon

<in4crypto:matrix.org> i can't take u seriously

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> You know why it's delisted everywhere?

<in4crypto:matrix.org> monero doesn't scale with fcmp iether

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Spoiler alert: It's not broken like your shitcoin.

$ sha1sum pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1821930636384288768/p_0W-VqN.jpg

$ sha1sum matrix.monero.social/_matrix/media/…nLduhNLlJxUdfpB?allow_redirect=true

both return cc5c499e75096e40a88804bb1d5deac0def75ffb

second is in4crypto matrix profile image upload :)

hah

<spirobel:kernal.eu> @in4crypto:matrix.org: yes it does. It is focused on the part that actually matters. Instead of falling into the trap that tachyon falls into

for the matrix one you have to grab it from element or your client. yeah, the impostor

lifted the twitter jpg with twitter artifacts included

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu: the fees don't scale

the fees arent even decided yet

like the fuck

> no FCMP exists

you must have nothing to do

> goes and says that monero fcmp doesn't scale

<in4crypto:matrix.org> what trap does tachyon fall into?

as I said hooftly1, topical

<in4crypto:matrix.org> u keep saying trap and never mention it. only tps

<in4crypto:matrix.org> DataHoarder: fcmp is not on mainnet

<in4crypto:matrix.org> and it probably never will be

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> FCMP is literally on the alpha stressnet isn't it?

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: lol

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> As in it's being put through it's paces right fucking now

yes, and P2Pool already works with it (on my go-p2pool :D)

<in4crypto:matrix.org> why have the monero developers allowed vulnerable ring signatures to exist for so long?

why has zcash allowed it to be backdoored for so long

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Bcoz there wasn’t any ready usable alternative

i can do that too

"monero developers"

<in4crypto:matrix.org> orchard was implemented back in 2021

I think we have a cryptographer / researcher branch

and then a developer branch, not always 1:1 :D

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Wow it's almost like it's a decentralized project or something

^

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Imagine that

same Qubic talking points

<in4crypto:matrix.org> it took monero 12 years to consider a global anon set?

<spirobel:kernal.eu> the trap of trying to scale by aggregating proofs in front of consensus. Mina made the same mistake and failed. They also claimed it can scale to billions and in practice it had very low TPS. Read the article I wrote. monerochan.news/article/18 otherwise your arguments will always stay superficial and stupid. > <@in4crypto:matrix.org> what trap does tachyon fall into?

that same impostor used btw

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> #zcash-warriors

not even fartbubbler

it's a special entity

tachyon deez nutz

that uses topical FUD

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> got 'em

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu: i'm not technical

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> We know

<in4crypto:matrix.org> can i post it on the zcash forum?

tries to take random developer profiles or community members identities

Technically something....

<spirobel:kernal.eu> @in4crypto:matrix.org: yeah sure

<in4crypto:matrix.org> i'll get real zcash devs to review it

<spirobel:kernal.eu> Hope there will be a better answer than what we got so far.

more eyes is better so get them too

except I doubt you have that kind of access

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Why can't I sent binance brought zcash to my z-address? Smell like the fish I forgot on counter last month

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu: i replied to the proposal. my reply contains a link to ur article so i'm waiting for one of the mods to approve it. all serious discussion happens on the zcash community forum:

<in4crypto:matrix.org> forum.zcashcommunity.com/t/scaling-zcash-tachyon-ragu/50789/7

> This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.

irc.gammaspectra.live/63805b976d39d7bd/image.png

great cat video but almost at the end of the series :(

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> nioc: awww

128 are not enough

<in4crypto:matrix.org> DataHoarder: zcash community forum is mostly devs. i talk on discord more

at least they are still be produced

<in4crypto:matrix.org> the monero community has too many schizos and nazis. just a weird bunch

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: And zrash community is filled with chillers and shitcoiners

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @elongated:matrix.org: ur friend spirobel shills xmr to our community

<in4crypto:matrix.org> telling zcash users to swap into "secure" monero

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> And what are you doing wight now?

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Go back to your cave, nobody has asked you to come here

<elongated:matrix.org> Why are you afraid of your ztrash is so good

<in4crypto:matrix.org> tit for tat zillions

21st century schizoid man is a great song from the last century

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Eye for an eye huh

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Cool shit

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Think there was a saying about that somewhere

03:21:01 <br-m> <in4crypto:matrix.org> DataHoarder: zcash community forum is mostly devs. i talk on discord more

why is your profile a few hours old given user id?

<in4crypto:matrix.org> i can't prove shit to schizos

the real treasure was the schizos we made along the way

just tweet on your account that exists

listen to the song

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Bcoz you are shit

super easy to prove

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @elongated:matrix.org: i've had fun, but i'm going back to the zcash discord this community has to be feds or some shit. zcash is normal

given it's the same user everywhere

:)

good night everyone, have fun :)

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Normal non private surveillance coin

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @elongated:matrix.org: none of my claims were disproved

<in4crypto:matrix.org> anyway have a good night

they were

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Go back to your cave we don’t need to prove anything lol

you also proved nothing, indeed, just baseless claims

again, just tweet on x.com/in4crypto

<spirobel:kernal.eu> > This is the first time in4crypto has posted — let’s welcome them to our community! > <@in4crypto:matrix.org> i replied to the proposal. my reply contains a link to ur article so i'm waiting for one of the mods to approve it. all serious discussion happens on the zcash community forum:

it's your user :)

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Not after he moved the goalposts > <DataHoarder> they were

<spirobel:kernal.eu> @spirobel:kernal.eu: my account is more active in the forum than you

@spirobel:kernal.eu: also his id is a few hours old at most according to user id lol

plus matching image 1:1 on twitter dl one :)

the image hash was gold haha

next time age your puppet accounts a few more weeks

<spirobel:kernal.eu> honestly the guy should just join us he is clearly autistic :D

<spirobel:kernal.eu> would love to read a reply though.

<spirobel:kernal.eu> I honestly think many zcashers share my concerns

tcashers

<elongated:matrix.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu: 0.001% ? Rest are there for number go up

<spirobel:kernal.eu> the crosslink project and tachyon collide as well. there will be friction between those two groups

Corpo things

<spirobel:kernal.eu> @elongated:matrix.org: i think there are some good reasonable people as well. Some of them will switch over.

<spirobel:kernal.eu> I mean look at this: x.com/spirobel/status/1982870177424519245 anyone reasonable will say its an absolute dealbreaker to not be able to recover with the seed and the blockchain alone.

<elongated:matrix.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu: Not worth the trouble when fcmp is not even on table

<spirobel:kernal.eu> people are just not informed at the moment

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu: stop spamming one of the zcash devs will respond soon

<plaiwanone:matrix.org> GM

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Go away, shooo

<in4crypto:matrix.org> ur about to get rekt so hard. we're laughing at your ignorance in the discord

<spirobel:kernal.eu> @in4crypto:matrix.org: sure let them also respond to this. It is just a horrific idea to build something like this.

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: In your pump n dump group? Good luck

<in4crypto:matrix.org> ur credibility is about to go down hill mert was right

<in4crypto:matrix.org> i didn't know monero devs were this stupid

<spirobel:kernal.eu> @in4crypto:matrix.org: sounds like a fun place to be. This is usually the atmosphere in a boiler room pump and dump type of operation

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: And you are so stupid you don’t know the answer 🤣

but we aren't even monero devs just randoms :)

<elongated:matrix.org> “Dev will answer” 🤣

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @elongated:matrix.org: i'm just a shill bro...

<spirobel:kernal.eu> @in4crypto:matrix.org: mert has very high ego and not very high information

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Same atmosphere as the Qubic Discord

<in4crypto:matrix.org> spirobel is a monero dev

<stormyyy:tchncs.de> @in4crypto:matrix.org: no shit

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Zcash AGI soon

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Yes a stupid 1cent chiller

no, everyone is a random

<spirobel:kernal.eu> @elongated:matrix.org: can the dev do something

<elongated:matrix.org> @fartbubbler:matrix.org: Same 1cent army

<in4crypto:matrix.org> i don't get 90% of the shit ur saying

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> We know

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Shooo, we know where you are coming from

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @elongated:matrix.org: where?

<in4crypto:matrix.org> give me ur schizo story. am i the backdoor?

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Sweatshops

<in4crypto:matrix.org> always someone else to blame with the monero community

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Okay my frnd I hope you made some cents today

<namenet:matrix.org> I think this is the same troll who doxxed people

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> he got some of that sweet sweet tcash

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @namenet:matrix.org: schizo fuck u talking about?

<spirobel:kernal.eu> are you aware that mert and zooko are in disagreement about crosslink (and therefore tachyon, as those two projects collide and are blockers for each other) ?

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu: mert is building an independent team ofc they're in disagreement

<in4crypto:matrix.org> zooko is my hero

<in4crypto:matrix.org> mert is still smart

<spirobel:kernal.eu> there will be a lot of clashes between high ego people soon

<spirobel:kernal.eu> doesnt seem very constructive and bullish ngl

ego gross

bitch be humble

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu: don't mention the word bullish around monero

<elongated:matrix.org> @in4crypto:matrix.org: Cult

<spirobel:kernal.eu> @in4crypto:matrix.org: it is bullish because the smart zcashers that are willing to think critically will switch over to Monero. We like people that can think for themselves and make their own assessment of the facts. Not blindly follow cult leaders

<in4crypto:matrix.org> @spirobel:kernal.eu: my quants will speak soon

<namenet:matrix.org> I noticed that they're copying tweets exactly from this guy: > <DataHoarder> $ sha1sum pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1821930636384288768/p_0W-VqN.jpg

<namenet:matrix.org> > Tweet: xcancel.com/in4crypto/status/1982751366436323373

<namenet:matrix.org> > 128.99 btc swapped for 59,885.44 zec in the past few weeksasd

<namenet:matrix.org> [... more lines follow, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/wc_akcMKNGhraTdT ]

ofc, they always do that

<namenet:matrix.org> I compared their specific messages with tweets made by the real in4crypto

but again, no tweet proving who they are :)

<in4crypto:matrix.org> fucking nerds

this impersonator has always this same pattern

still waiting for that tweet from months ago btw :)

did it get sent already?

<namenet:matrix.org> They left

<namenet:matrix.org> 🤣

<elongated:matrix.org> @namenet:matrix.org: Made enough for today’s bread

<namenet:matrix.org> @elongated:matrix.org: I don't think this impersonator is being paid

<namenet:matrix.org> It's probably someone's alt account because they know so much about Monero

it's a long time one, if same it's the ofrnxmr alt

lol mr im not technical is telling Nerds that they don;t know what they are talking about. dumb

double think, again

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Same alt imo

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Theyre a regular here

<namenet:matrix.org> Do you remember the usernames?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> And have been for years

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> They "know" all of us

<elongated:matrix.org> @namenet:matrix.org: Doesn’t have to be, you give them some lines to spam around and troll

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Have been following these rooms for, i think, at least 5 years

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @elongated:matrix.org: It is someones alt account

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> im 99.9% sure that they havent just been lurking 24/7 for 5 yeaes

something something fun at parties...

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> for them to know the things they do, they must have been part of a lot of these conversations

well to be fair the chats are logged and be be looked back on

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Nono.. they dont just know casual observer stuff

<torir:matrix.org> Maybe someone fed the chat logs into an LLM and asked "write FUD about Monero that promotes Zcash"

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> They know things about people, which tells me that theyve been on good terms with a lot of people in private

<namenet:matrix.org> @elongated:matrix.org: This is not a script. There's a pattern of this impersonator researching people first. For example, tallhatdoug was targeted and tweeted about it: xcancel.com/tallhatdoug/status/1962230661713887323

<namenet:matrix.org> I think battbot is the same person

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> the troll accts have been used for like 2yrs, but the main acct(s) much longer

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> For all we know, it's me

everyone is an ofrnxmr alt

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> The post they made on the zcash forum is gone, lol.

it was instant flagged

<fartbubbler:matrix.org> Yeah, but now it's gone gone.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Its shielded

LOL

<namenet:matrix.org> I think the impersonator is a genius

<namenet:matrix.org> Zcashers are now talking about the Monero channel and discussing pros/cons of Tachyon

<namenet:matrix.org> I'm not sure if it was intended or not; maybe I'm giving too much credit

<321bob321> Marketing department success