<unreal933:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/hjrcvcsIaKnIlGTMtaIyDQvi.jpeg (camphoto_758783491.jpeg)

<unreal933:matrix.org> Hi ! I just found this on my old PC. Do you have any idea how to use it/what’s the purpose of it ? 😊

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> The bottom is probably about an accont on some website

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> The top, what does the "key" looks like? A bunch of words? A bunch of letters?

<unreal933:matrix.org> A bunch of letters/numbers 🙁

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Probably need more than that to recover a wallet

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Need spend key, view key, and primary address

<unreal933:matrix.org> I have nothing else, that’s the problem 😕

<tempetassum:matrix.org> Was it on Mac or windows?

<tempetassum:matrix.org> I wonder if it’s a lite wallet

<unreal933:matrix.org> It was on windows, but I don’t have anything else (and don’t know what to do with it !)

<aadniz:knaben.org> Why is syncing a monero node slower and slower the closer to 100% it is?

<321bob321> More txs

<aadniz:knaben.org> If the blockchain were to double, it would then take 45 days to sync instead of the now 30 hours sync time

<aadniz:knaben.org> Sounds like N^(N/2)

Closer to 100% it actually gets past hardcoded checkpoints, so it starts to do full block verification

<aadniz:knaben.org> Alright, thank you

So there are two sync modes: fast syncing when monerod has checkpoints (basically just downloading data and comparing hashes), and slow syncing with full block verification (mostly CPU bound)

<aadniz:knaben.org> Mhm yeah I see

<aadniz:knaben.org> That's also probably why the CPU went crazy some hours ago

<eliav:matrix.org> Can someone explain to me how the DAO works in monero?

there is no dao

What even is "DAO"?

<eliav:matrix.org> so the government?

The DAO doesn't work

there is no DAO

<eliav:matrix.org> so how we take decisions?

making proposals, discussions with the dev team

and also writing code

So what even if a "DAO" in this context?

possibly whoever is in charge of making modifications to the daemon and shit

of course, you can vote with your CPU if a block is good or bad

if that counts as a DAO

but it's just limited to that

<eliav:matrix.org> thanks

though, it's probably not a DAO because unofficial (hostile) hard forks risk damaging the network

<pry0:matrix.org> my understanding is DAOs usually work by voting of token holders, similar to a corporate structure with shareholders. monero works more similarly to how other open source software works. please correct me if im wrong

yes

Wouldn't that mean easy takeover by rich people?

it would mean that the rich people can vote for features to be added

which is something that monero doesn't do

<rbrunner7> Does any DAO currently exist that really works and does not only exist for good looks and as decoration, but is important and relevant? So far I only ever met "DAO" as a buzzword

<rbrunner7> And as something that might work in theory

bisq has a DAO

*Buzzword from 2017

(which haveno completely removes)

<rbrunner7> A relevant one?

<rbrunner7> Does it have the say over the future course of Bisq?

<rbrunner7> Not only rubberstamping things

yes

<pry0:matrix.org> The reason they arent that relevant is because theres no legal framework for them to operate in, if the law ever allows it, they will be similar to a public company

<pry0:matrix.org> so they are mostly pointless imo

<pry0:matrix.org> and havent really worked that well

that's mostly why haveno completely removed that functionality

and replaced it with seperate, centralized networks

<rbrunner7> Maybe if one worked too well devs or whoever disagrees would just fork away, end of story :)

it wouldn't work that well :P

<pry0:matrix.org> with most cryptos theres an actual legal entity behind it that actually owns everything (like domain name etc) and gets VC money etc, the token is mostly for retail investors to think they have ownership of something

imagine suggesting a feature and the devs tell you "lets tell the richest people and see what they think first"

what if they vote for something that only benefits their bottom-line, like switching to an ASIC-friendly algorithm

so they can mine more coins efficiently, and then get more voting power

<aadniz:knaben.org> Currently getting spammed with this warning:

<aadniz:knaben.org> There were 73 blocks in the last 90 minutes, there might be large hash rate changes, or we might be partitioned, cut off from the Monero network or under attack, or your computer's time is off. Or it could be just sheer bad luck.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @aadniz:knaben.org: It means what it says

<aadniz:knaben.org> Yes, and it is calculated here github.com/monero-project/monero/bl…note_core/cryptonote_core.cpp#L1822

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> There were 73 (instead of the expected 45) blocks in the last 90mins

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 9.9 times out of 10, it means the hashrate climbed

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> miningpoolstats.stream/monero

<aadniz:knaben.org> Alright thank you. Don't know why I didn't check that global hashrate change... Just a bit new to this

<happyt34rs:matrix.org> hello everyone! i want to find non-kyc variation of getting btc and another crypto for dollar and maybe even usa card

<happyt34rs:matrix.org> и да, есть ли тут русские?

wtf is a usa card

you mean a green card?

<happyt34rs:matrix.org> visa or master card

you can go find deals in haveno

credit card will not be good enough due to risks of chargebacks

<happyt34rs:matrix.org> Sindy: even from usa?

no

people in haveno are more likely to use "permanent" forms of payment

like western union, bank transfers

etc.

less likely risky forms like paypal

<happyt34rs:matrix.org> sucks bro

well, people don't wanna get scammed

and i'm assuming that this is some stolen credit card, which is even more riskier

and also, don't do that

<happyt34rs:matrix.org> no, thats mine

<happyt34rs:matrix.org> and thats only problem

<lidjar:matrix.org> How much interest is there in a fully distributed, peer to peer marketplace for Monero that runs on Tor natively?

<lidjar:matrix.org> It seems there is the centralized XmrBazaar and a few dead projects that never got to a functional state. There's also OpenBazaar but that project wasn't focused on privacy and has been dead for years now.

<lidjar:matrix.org> Having a marketplace be run over Tor has obvious privacy benefits. Making the marketplace peer to peer would make it resistant to shutdowns. It would also be scalable, allowing for many users to use the marketplace without slowdown.

<happyt34rs:matrix.org> sounds too good to be truth

<happyt34rs:matrix.org> what must easier method of earning crypto for newbie without kyc? got monero and exchange that on another crypto? or like that

<happyt34rs:matrix.org> sorry for tat questions

<lidjar:matrix.org> If you have existing crypto like BTC, LTC, etc. you can trade your crypto for Monero using atomic swaps.

<lidjar:matrix.org> Right now, you can also sell items on XmrBazaar.com if you have items to sell.

<happyt34rs:matrix.org> is it possible to buy monero from my usa credit card without kyc and shit like that?

<lidjar:matrix.org> Possible, yes. It would be much easier to get Monero with cash, Western Union, Zelle, or any other form of payment without charge-backs.

<happyt34rs:matrix.org> i heard that usa tighten the nuts a bite with zelle

why do you only have a credit card

<lidjar:matrix.org> Not sure. Cash in person is a popular method to obtain Monero. Go to a local crypto meetup and ask around if anyone's selling Monero.

do you have the bank account associated to your credit card?

<happyt34rs:matrix.org> Sindy: thats a long story

<happyt34rs:matrix.org> @lidjar:matrix.org: sounds good

<happyt34rs:matrix.org> is it possible in los angeles? usa kills freedom as well

<lidjar:matrix.org> It should be possible in any large city in the United States, yes.

<happyt34rs:matrix.org> @lidjar:matrix.org: thank u