hello all

<angled:matrix.angled.rip> moonero

<angled:matrix.angled.rip> :3

<ilha:matrix.org> Any news or rumors that might explain the price spike up in XMR in the last 24 hours?

<lostish:matrix.org> I haven't checked Monero in a while, it's gone up so much recently?! Incredible...

<lostish:matrix.org> @ilha:matrix.org: maybe regulations ?

<ilha:matrix.org> XMR/USD hit $598 on Kraken in the last 24 hours.

<lostish:matrix.org> yeah, is cool

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Its all speculation at that point, for the why

<lostish:matrix.org> If we expect a drop, perhaps 10-15% is what we will experience; if it's neither of those, then take advantage.

<angled:matrix.angled.rip> @ilha:matrix.org: sol degens leaving zcash for something mildly shinier

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Also a possibility considering there recent meltdown

<angled:matrix.angled.rip> or since, you know, their whole dev team exited

<angled:matrix.angled.rip> yeah

<ravfx:xmr.mx> They pumped

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Then dumped

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Then they dont need the ecc anymore

ofrnxmr, yeah, that's a point. Blocking network access works but I wish there was a more convenient way. There are also some requests it does (like time sync and connectivity checks) that are listed on the website, and I don't think there was evidence of anything extra. Still, that doesn't send out the personal data telemetry so that's what I was after.

<sbt:nope.chat> Woah monero hit ATM

<sbt:nope.chat> about time

Congratulations all bag holders and miners

<remake6316:matrix.org> graphene prioritises security over everything else. hence why they recommend google play store as the primary app store. that said, it' still the most secure AND most private mobile experience today. > <@ofrnxmr> Right.

<ofrnxmr> Sure sure

Yes, when I asked about installing some apps from f-droid, they acted like it was some blasphemy

<remake6316:matrix.org> Could you link the thread? I'd be curious to see it. I understand there is something with F-droid where there is no automatic key verification or something like that and there is more trust placed in the devs. Despite that I've heard there is actually less malware in the F-droid app than the Google Play Store app

Yeah, their stance on Play Store I really don't like.

<ofrnxmr> @remake6316:matrix.org: Of course theres less malware in fdroid. Fdroid apps have to be have source availablr

TBH I don't think F-Droid's moderation for malware is that strict. It's just that a) it's harder to put malware into FOSS without it being discovered; b) F-Droid is less popular in general.

<ofrnxmr> Google play is full if freemium proprietsry spyware

Source-available? I assumed it was stricter, because, say, Grayjay wasn't allowed in.

<kaigoh:gohegan.uk> BlueyHealer: I totally get your view, and I agree - however, their stance makes sense. It is because the Play Store seems to be the only source of APKs that verifies signatures...

What about Obtainium?

<ofrnxmr> BlueyHealer: i only said source availabke because im not 100% sure what licenses they allow

<remake6316:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: yeah but doesn't F-droid themselves compile the binaries? So you have to trust the f-droid team?

<ofrnxmr> BlueyHealer: Thats just a tool tl download from whatever source you enter into it. Like github releases. you can upload anythinf you want to the github releases, so theres no way for obtainium to verify that the apk match the repo source

<lza_menace> does monerujo still support lws? i thought they did at one point, i can't figure out how to configure it

TBH I'm fine with that, given that F-Droid hasn't betrayed trust in that way. Also, at least some of the apps have reproducible builds.

<ofrnxmr> @lza_menace: Never did :(

<ofrnxmr> Just edge and now skylight (rip mymonero)

<lza_menace> oh, so pretty much just skylight

I personally am mostly F-Droid and it has already helped me - when Simple Mobile Tools got purchased and turned malicious.

<ofrnxmr> Edge supports lws, but is convoluted with their account model

<ofrnxmr> Id recommend using the develop branch of lws. Imo its more stable than master

<ofrnxmr> BlueyHealer: Same. I use fdroid whenever possible

<ofrnxmr> accrescent allows proprietary apps and doesnt tell you which, so i dont use it. It also has straight up dead apps in it (like rimusic)

I do use Obtainium for some apps where I need updates more quickly, or that aren't on F-Droid. But that's very few.

<ofrnxmr> i use obtainium for cromite

<soulexemar:matrix.org> @ilha:matrix.org: Higher

<soulexemar:matrix.org> job’s not finished

<remake6316:matrix.org> why is LTC price so low / stable? this is really good for us coinswapping to avoid governments knocking asking where it went (XMR), as they often do once things moon

<lza_menace> vtnerd: if i am restoring an old wallet using lws and it has many transactions to various subaddresses on both primary and additional accounts will those txes be found? or should it only be used for wallets where only primary address on account index 0 was used?

<vtnerd> 0.3 branch requires lookahead client side which is buggy. Lwsf currently does this as it the only way in the initial subaddr spec. The master branch of lws supports server side lookahead but lwsf only supports it in a pr. I'm waiting to stabilize a 1.0 lws release before merging the lwsf pr

<vtnerd> Lwsf tries to do manual subaddress lookahead automatically but is failing to allocate enough addresses > <@lza_menace> vtnerd: why might I receive these error messages constantly from lws? REST error: Max subaddresses exceeded - i'm using Skylight wallet and not using any subaddresses

<lza_menace> Thanks. I’ve got it set to 200 for now. It works great man, I’m using skylight and it’s very reliable

i wonder if the monero-wallet URI could be "encrypted" by using an XOR cipher on most of the private variables (private view key, spend key, txids)

verifying if the URI decrypted successfully could be as simple as 1) XORing the spend key with the supplied decryption key 2) multiply it by Ed25519 basepoint (getting the public key from it) 3) compare the point against the public key within the address (which is not encrypted)

is this a good idea?

oh yeah i forgot a step 2) modulo it by the l group order

before multplying

<kriek:matrix.org> Do you know the best site where i can swap eth for monero?

<redsh4de:matrix.org> @kriek:matrix.org: kycnot.me/?categories=aggregator¤cy-mode=or¤cies=xmr&max-kyc=0

<redsh4de:matrix.org> You can choose from one of the aggregators in this list

retoswap

<redsh4de:matrix.org> My personal favorite is Trocador

or i guess yeah

that counts

<kriek:matrix.org> Retoswap is for buying from private I’m looking for something that swap directly eth/monero

<redsh4de:matrix.org> Trocador is that

<redsh4de:matrix.org> submit your XMR address, you get a ETH address. Send ETH, get XMR

<redsh4de:matrix.org> nice and simple

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> WOO MONERO IS UP ALL COINS ARE RED WHILE MONERO STAYS GREEN IM GLAD TO HAVE YOU GUYS WITH ME ON THIS JOURNEY $1K SOON BROTHERS.

<ufo808:matrix.org> 😭😭😭

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> @ufo808:matrix.org: Nigga why you laughing I’m hyped?

<zombie:catgirl.cloud> I WAITED YEARS FOR THIS.

i didnt have any xmr, seems like its too late every time i check the price

although now especially seems very risky

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> snake: It only gets worse everytime?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i think theres a btc meme for you

its hard to hodl for so long through rough periods. i'd rather start at the end of the rough period. even if it means i dont get the exact bottom

<ufo808:matrix.org> rough periods like Qubic trying to 51%? I think everyone who was hesitant sold during that times

no i mean like a bear market. i think i started around the time that story was going around and i didnt worry about it much

i wanna test out my monero program, and there's like one working stagenet node :P

there are a lot more mainnet nodes than stagenet or even testnet

and yeah i get why

did you check here? xmr.ditatompel.com/remote-nodes I see 5 stagenodes and 1 onion stage node

stagenet nodes*

yes, ditatompel's node is the only one that works

<reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> okay wtf is happening,

<reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> i thought that without major exchange we would not have this kinds of pumps?

xmr taiwan has a broken cert so no TLS

what is your monero program Cindy?

oh wait, i just realized all of the stagenet nodes on monero.fail (except ditatompel) are HTTP-only

ArsenyTarkovsky: i won't reveal it yet

reaster: I'm quite surprised too

also i wonder how you actually got my messages

you joined after i posted my messages

were you watching the logs?

yes :3

okay well makes sense :P

reaster: monero is special

xmr taiwan is the best because their stagenet faucet still works

it dispenses 1 XMR per entry

(ofc worthless cuz it's stagenet, but good for testing)

<lza_menace> I test on mainnet