hi, where is this 2.0 haveno-reto client that i need to connect to the client, anyone knows? only thing i see on here retoswap.com is a link to haveno-v1.6.0-linux-x86_64.AppImage

<hbs:matrix.org> agent314: doesn't exist, it is meant to halt operations

<321bob321> 1.6 is last

<pawism:frei.chat> Retoswap is halting operations???

<pyratevevo:matrix.org> @pawism:frei.chat: Due to an exploit, yes.

<pawism:frei.chat> Is it going to be alright??

<pyratevevo:matrix.org> Yeah just give it time.

<pyratevevo:matrix.org> It is rather unfortunate though, second exploit in like one month (?).

<321bob321> Opensauce= safe

<321bob321> No audit

<absinthium:4d2.org> @pawism:frei.chat: *crying

<kevino:tchncs.de> is there a way to convert a 12 word monero seed into 16 word or 25 word seed ?

<db58:matrix.org> @kevino:tchncs.de: you can create a new one and migrate your funds

<kevino:tchncs.de> well i know about that

<kevino:tchncs.de> is there a difference in what type of seed i use , 12 or 16 word with respect to their security/safety ?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 12 word monero seed?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> cake's bip..whatever seed?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> the legacy seed should be shown on the backup apge

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> page*

<sadgirlava:catgirl.cloud> Can't you send cash via mail from a mailbox far away from where you live, with a fake name and return address, and just hope it gets to the destination? > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> you cant really use retoswap without some form of kyc, whether that be address, banking info (including real name and account numbers, obv)

<yushanren:matrix.org> 16 is the new standard?

<monerobull:matrix.org> yes

<monerobull:matrix.org> 16 is polyseed and the best one

<monerobull:matrix.org> @sadgirlava:catgirl.cloud: cash by mail is the most anon way of getting XMR

<monerobull:matrix.org> Sam Bent was really creative with return addresses

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Cash at atm on haveno dont require kyc (just put random in the forms). The problem is more to find peers to trade with

<monerobull:matrix.org> he just used the sex offender registry for his drug packet return addresses

<yushanren:matrix.org> Why 25 is not better than 16? It’s longer

<monerobull:matrix.org> they have similar actual randomness and 16 encodes the restore height

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @sadgirlava:catgirl.cloud: how do you receive it?

<monerobull:matrix.org> receiving cash is a lot harder than sending it

<monerobull:matrix.org> one method that does work for anon receiving: get a $15 mailbox at home depot, bolt it on to a social housing project building (nobody gives a shit there), send a test letter to it -> it arrives? gg, anon receive address

<riceandbeans:matrix.org> Why would you want smart contracts let alone something as insecure as EVM? > <@kiersten5821:matrix.org> the thing that would fix 99% of monero's decentralized trading problems is a wrapped monero on eth

<monerobull:matrix.org> there is wXMR on ETH by a shitty third tier CEX

<kevino:tchncs.de> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: thanks 👍

<moneromavrick:matrix.org> This thing working

<doldor:matrix.org> Hello

<reaster:matrix.reaster.dev> hi @moneromavrick:matrix.org btw

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Ew, easiest block of the day.

<rottenwheel:unredacted.org> Take the trash out...

<moneromavrick:matrix.org> @rottenwheel:unredacted.org: Oh its you jew

<doldor:matrix.org> @moneromavrick:matrix.org: Goy goy goy goy