<gaming-research-lab:4d2.org> motivational quote of the day: "Men of perverse opinion do not know the excellence of what is in their hands, till some one dash it from them."

<gaming-research-lab:4d2.org> anyways, moneroforum offline for few hours now, no clue if there was an announcement or what, idk if will be back online or what, been expecting it to be short lived anyways, like everything being made nowadays, ephemeral type things...

<gaming-research-lab:4d2.org> then wowneroforum.com went offline at same time as well, no clue on what's up with that either, so i guess o7 lol

<pyratevevo:matrix.org> @gaming-research-lab:4d2.org: The onion service is working.

<pyratevevo:matrix.org> Even the clearnet site is working. Maybe it was fixed just now.

<pw:xmr.mx> might of been a masked phishing URL. hope you didn't check the site via the banned users comment

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> The the banned user is spacekitty

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Not the type to post phishing links, just an unhinged troll

<pw:xmr.mx> ya I recall the name

giving kitties a bad name

so sad

<legit-not-unhinged:matrix.org> being an unhinged troll still better than being literal legit scammers, $3k for a whole year of work declined by both of you scammers (while doing thousands of hours of work, done for free), i see the doxxing is back on too, let's play games then, yall scammers want war, well, congratz

<legit-not-unhinged:matrix.org> fuck off nioc

Anyone have recommendations on transfering XMR to usd?

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> Yes

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> ro1m: You can share me a screenshot if you want an assistant

Pardon me?

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> ro1m: retoswap.com they released their newer version recently: github.com/retoaccess1/haveno-reto/releases

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> ro1m: Don’t you want to exchange your xrm to usd

I will look into that, thanks!

Who is chainlinkbot?

Anyways, haveno-shill don't feel like really looking into it a ton right now, wish there was a more "official" way to do it

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> ro1m: lol no clue

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> That’s more official way to do it

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> ro1m: haveno IS the official way tho, multiple years in the work

What i meant is properly made by the same team that made monero

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> it has been made by the same team that made monero yea

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> look the contributors on github, literally same people

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> ro1m: Should I text you privately

chainlinkbot no

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> I can assist you

okay, and how? no, I'm not sending you my XMR

haveno-shill doesn't look like it to me

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> Chainlinkbots is my trading company standard of Onchain finance

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> ro1m: lol

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> ro1m: well, Haveno (the software) is over there: github.com/haveno-dex/haveno (monero contributors), reto is the network for it

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> Why whould you do such

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> that's just how haveno works, there is the software but you cant do nothing with just the software so there needs to be a network for it, which the network for it has been retoswap running for 2 years now

why don't they build it into the monero gui or something

I'm just being picky at this point

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> ro1m: You don’t have to send your money to me either or anyone

@chainlinkbot sorry but I'm not interested

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> ro1m: Sieye hmm

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> I understand you now

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> You’re skeptical

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> u do be being picky lol, being yea, would be nice, is just... even that way its a way for haveno devs to work on the software without risky prison time for working on decentralized technologies (lots of devs been unjustely sentence because of work on those technologies...), so, haveno team built the software, then networks have to be run on top of it, that's complex but the world is complex u know

I don't know one person on the face of this earth that wouldn't be skeptical

" that's complex but the world is complex u know" yep, I will look into it though, thanks

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> ro1m: You’re right

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> ro1m: I can give you a video call

haveno-shill I think honestly the easiest way to do it is just send it to a kraken wallet

chainlinkbot come on man, I'm not interested

I appreciate the help though

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> ro1m: kraken is kyc'd tho, with haveno you dont have to send you ID scan and all of that (which, for example coinbase literally sold off their customer data and kyc data info...), avoiding kyc is just the way

<pw:xmr.mx> @haveno-shill:matrix.org probably Jeff the scammer

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> @pw:xmr.mx: inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=qkBx0gMGuhY

<jpk68:matrix.org> No, it isn't > <@haveno-shill:matrix.org> haveno IS the official way tho, multiple years in the work

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> @haveno-shill:matrix.org: Have you forgotten it’s not fully decentralized exchange

<jpk68:matrix.org> No, they are not > <@haveno-shill:matrix.org> it has been made by the same team that made monero yea

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> Still cex

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> @chainlinkbot:matrix.org: whatever, that's the solution that works for now

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> @haveno-shill:matrix.org: Avoiding kyc won’t help but I love my dapp wallet so much

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> Keeping my data private

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: so build your own solution then, fully decentralized, where you at on that?

<pw:xmr.mx> glowing explorer is doing that

<pw:xmr.mx> well Claude ks4

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> Everyone is avoiding (AML)

<jpk68:matrix.org> @haveno-shill:matrix.org: I didn't say it wasn't good, Haveno is good. But it isn't official (??)

who is chainlinkbot? lol

<jpk68:matrix.org> @haveno-shill:matrix.org: I didn't say it was bad, I said it's not official

<chainlinkbot:matrix.org> nioc: That’s the name of the company I’m working for

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: who gives a shit about semantics anyways, like for real lol

<pw:xmr.mx> probably setvin 😆

video call lolol

the only thing official is xmr<>xmr

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> o7

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> cya yall

<plowsof:matrix.org> 🤔 ai agent with a goal?

<jpk68:matrix.org> Nuts, why did my message send twice

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/tFrNEAMrJDrcaNkzIdQyaepn.png (image.png)

<haveno-shill:matrix.org> @jpk68:matrix.org: everything sending twice everywhere seems like

IRC works

<pw:xmr.mx> @jpk68:matrix.org: nothing sending twice here though?

<jpk68:matrix.org> My fault, I sent the same message twice with slightly different wording because didn't send, but then both got sent...

what do y'all use to have persistent message history + message history when you are offline? y'all use a matrix server or something?

we're just not offline

I use a bouncer that is online for me

I run thelounge.chat on a server

<albertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr> And I’m in the Matrix room

<gan:skhron.org> ro1m: any bouncer would work on IRC

<milas900:matrix.org> How to use AI to learn and try things about Monero and to understand the full code