<bobsacmanto:matrix.org> they have their own fdroid repo for cake wallet. But the builds are not verifyable due to the api keys being kept secret in the build process. > <@einliterflasche2:matrix.org> Nevermind, they're not. But they are on Accrescent

<ofas:matrix.org> coinsbee started requiring a MEMO for Monero payments and it’s kinda weird. It’s base64 which decodes to payment|<32 char string separated by 4 -‘s>

<ofas:matrix.org> How does that work?

<ofas:matrix.org> It doesn’t make any sense

<laina24:matrix.org> thorchain.org

<laina24:matrix.org> Anyone else excited for the Monero integration in THORChain?

<laina24:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/QBjxZVqROjawDKfrJUkzGNUV.png (soon.png)

<hbs:matrix.org> @laina24:matrix.org: Yes, can't wait for the next shutdown

<hbs:matrix.org> @laina24:matrix.org: by the way, would you happen to know if THORChain will integrate the legacy Monero chain or the fork planned for July 1st?

<321bob321> We hardfork every week

<plaiwanone:matrix.org> Hi everyone

<mrharrystyles:matrix.org> Hey guys

<mrharrystyles:matrix.org> I need friends

<mrharrystyles:matrix.org> And also people who are interested in trading

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> Hi guys, I've got a question: with Ethereum planning to adopt privacy in its roadmap using superior zk proofs, what is the point of Monero in the future? Ethereum has solved the mining issue with PoS, has almost solved scalability, and will soon solve privacy. Will Monero be obsolete?

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: ethereum is so useful that it hasn't even been able to make new high this bull run...

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> ethereum is over priced. it doesn't deserve #2.

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> layer 2 ethereum based chains like arbitrium have proven to have no decentralization

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> @thomasbuilds:matrix.org: I'm focused on longevity and utility over price. When I say Ethereum, I mean the entire token ecosystem, not just ETH. Privacy enabled stablecoins on Ethereum would be superior to Monero, so I'm wondering how Monero is actually faring in comparison

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> @thomasbuilds:matrix.org: L2s are old news. The whole point of the Glamsterdam upgrade and others is to scale the L1

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> well they are part of the ecosystem you praised

<pw:xmr.mx> others want to be Monero.. only Monero will be Monero.

<pw:xmr.mx> fxckn eth.

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> @pw:xmr.mx: eth is a meme at this point

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> @pw:xmr.mx: However, if Ethereum adopts privacy, why would anyone continue to use Monero? Wouldn't developers migrate to Ethereum due to its better funding? Achieving Zcash level privacy without the drawbacks associated with that coin poses a serious threat to Monero. How will Monero catch up? Furthermore, what is Monero c [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/l5inw5ALdktoYjNy ]

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> Ethereum is currently addressing or close to resolving all of these issues, whereas I have not seen any recent updates regarding Monero

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: Anyone who's been in crypto long enough knows altcoins are just a trading opportunity.

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> Monero, like Bitcoin, actually has real utility and no guru leader....

<pw:xmr.mx> zcash isn't 'private' and is also just a hype.

<pw:xmr.mx> Monero doesn't need to 'catch up' to anything.

<pw:xmr.mx> Monero is plenty of ideas and work in the pipeline. also things like FMCP++ and CARROT

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> The last time I checked, this chain was being attacked by Qubic, and no one was doing anything to stop it. People were also against PoS, which would solve the issue

<pw:xmr.mx> Monero has use like a currency. with privacy.

<pw:xmr.mx> Bitcoin is more of an investment/trade coin. sure it is also used for purchases but are mainly transparent

<pw:xmr.mx> @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: because people knew Qubic was a joke... look how that turned out.

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> @pw:xmr.mx: I heard about FCMP++ and CARROT being in development three years ago. Are they still in development? 🤣

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> @pw:xmr.mx: The chain is still vulnerable

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> ok bro hodl eth

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> @pw:xmr.mx: Bitcoin died a long time ago. They hate hard forks

<pw:xmr.mx> you would rather things her pushed out half finished leaving exploits and vulnerabilities? completion and stability takes time.

<pw:xmr.mx> time takes people giving it up. which in turn needs contribution/wages.

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> @thomasbuilds:matrix.org: Stop with the moonboy brain. I don't care about the ETH token. I care about the Ethereum chain itself, which has many tokens one can hold, including stablecoins

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: lol yeah definitely dead

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> ETH is just used for gas and securing the network

<pw:xmr.mx> don't be angry ETH is 50% lower than its 2021 ATH.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> They are essentially finished, and have been for quite some time > <@jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> I heard about FCMP++ and CARROT being in development three years ago. Are they still in development? 🤣

<pw:xmr.mx> ask trump to pump it.

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> If you care about price and trading a lot, crypto is dead for that now... everyone has moved on to stocks and the AI bubble

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> But deploying such code on mainnet needs a lot of testing, audits, etc

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Where can I track the progress?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> #monero-stressnet:monero.social

<mrharrystyles:matrix.org> Hey who's heard of the leans and earn sector ?

<pw:xmr.mx> not everyone risks collateral in trading.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> And github.com/setaphis-migration/monero

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I haven't seen any updated Monero roadmaps lately, which makes me think this chain is dead

<pw:xmr.mx> XMR is a is able currency

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: See the room details for the stressnet block explorer and monitors

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: Beta.monerodevs.org

<pw:xmr.mx> Monero is dead. RIP /s

<mrharrystyles:matrix.org> @pw:xmr.mx: Lol why did you say that

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> If you want to be a troll, go do it somewhere else

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: I don't see the point in coming here and complaining?

<pw:xmr.mx> @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: @mrharrystyles:matrix.org

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> beta.monerodevs.org/resources/roadmap This is all I needed

<pw:xmr.mx> isn't jimmyhendrix dead?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Meanwhile, there are ~20 people running and using fcmp++ and carrot already on the stressnet

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Carrot is live on mainnet in salvium chain

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> gist.github.com/tevador/639d083c994c1ef9401832c08e2b7832

<pw:xmr.mx> all this mention of carrot making me fancy some carrot and humus

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> ETA on Jamtis?

<mrharrystyles:matrix.org> @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: You trade ETH

<mrharrystyles:matrix.org> ?

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> @thomasbuilds:matrix.org: I want to track where actual productivity is happening in crypto. Almost everything nowadays is garbage, with an exclusive focus on price or memes. I'm interested in chains that address scalability, privacy, quantum resistance and mining with sufficient decentralization. Bitcoin rarely gets update [... too long, see mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/tZzmw5ALeTlKS2Ny ]

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> @mrharrystyles:matrix.org: No, I'm fortunate enough that I never have to trade again

good way to check is to see meetings held regularly github.com/monero-project/meta/issues?q=is%3Aissue

which have logs posted from IRC after some while

<thomasbuilds:matrix.org> @jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org: bitcoin is very well maintained, check the github repo and you'll see

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> DataHoarder: Where are these meetings held?

irc, on the respective channels

see each one, they list a location

<jimmyhendrix1995:matrix.org> I see thanks

<mrharrystyles:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/uLcJrZfisXcyEjgsOokULuuA.png (Hey guys who's in free trade signals and training )

#monero-offtopic

<mrharrystyles:matrix.org> mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/uEQzdBWDXMWVFybLnAiIAVhM.jpg (Who's in let's make some dollars)

🔨

<plowsof:matrix.org> it was a placed ad for some trading thing?

engaged in some convo till ad dropped

@jimmyhendrix1995: Last time I checked, Ethereum is mostly developed by MBAs

Price matters a lot more to them than "privacy", especially since if they adopt privacy, they'll get delisted from CEXs like Monero is rn

Which will cripple their price

What is the context for this?

Also, I'd feel like even without the regulation hurdles, it'd be hard to integrate privacy features without having them built into the foundation...

<pw:xmr.mx> BlueyHealer

<pw:xmr.mx> ah shit you are IRC. You won't see the 2nd formattinf style. oh well.

No, I see the colors)

Hmm. How to trigger BlueHAIler...I wonder...

What was this about though?

You want to bully me or what?

Only bluey you ^_^

lol

Sorry. Puns are my life.

I cown't live without them.

Why? Puns are neat

<pw:xmr.mx> retard

<pw:xmr.mx> ai

<pw:xmr.mx> that's 2 known triggers :D

<pw:xmr.mx> ah cool, IRC has a couple extra features over the last couple decades > <BlueyHealer> No, I see the colors)

So what were you trying to do here? Ragebait? Why?

Like, neither is related to what seemed to be discussed here.

<gan:skhron.org> Trolling sessions could be held in the offtopic. shall eternal flame be set ablaze, as a symbol of the internet traditions that always call back

Matrix colors come from IRC spec :)

<gan:skhron.org> DataHoarder: I don't think that's too precise

<gan:skhron.org> Matrix just supports HTML tags in general

<gan:skhron.org> I assume you've read C2S spec and the section on allowed html tags

<pw:xmr.mx> DataHoarder: IRC was the og I guess

<gan:skhron.org> I mean, that's generally true.

<pw:xmr.mx> been over 20 years since I used irc

<pw:xmr.mx> quakenet days

<gan:skhron.org> Based quaker

<pw:xmr.mx> anyways forgetting this isn't off topic. naughty naughty

I was just confused what was going on randomly

<pw:xmr.mx> just winding you up little bluey.

why

And why rainbow

<pw:xmr.mx> BlueyHealer: over sensitive, woke, lqbwoduxhwkwbxysk++++++ generation

Bro typing shit

<pw:xmr.mx> anyway it was just a wind up

I'm straight tho

<pw:xmr.mx> Cindy_: you got it

<gan:skhron.org> @pw:xmr.mx: Matey, it's not Friday yet, put the alco down :P

<gan:skhron.org> BlueyHealer: Zamn, DEI hire 🚎

?

<pw:xmr.mx> weirdly enough, I actually don't drink alcohol, nor take drugs. I just obtain moneeo

<pw:xmr.mx> Monero*

<pw:xmr.mx> not so smooth transition back to on topic... was worth a shot 😅

<gan:skhron.org> @pw:xmr.mx: Honestly based, much better than to spend the money on largely shit