<ravfx:xmr.mx> Yeah, at least crosoft listened to customers... Not like gnome3 and kde4 peps

<ravfx:xmr.mx> It took years this get an usable kde.. Hmm.. Plasma after they stuffed kde4 in our throat

<ravfx:xmr.mx> I guess its part of the reason the thing is called plasma instead of kde lol

<ravfx:xmr.mx> But plasma 5+ is great

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Nuke all framework, just keep QT

/set weechat.look.prefix_align none

woops

<matrixbillygkiller:matrix.org> Is monero still the king of privacy coins?

<elongated:matrix.org> @matrixbillygkiller:matrix.org: In marketcap? No

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> if litecoin isnt a privacy coin, Zcash isnt either

<matrixbillygkiller:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Litecoin is not a privacy coin, Zcash is though with shielded addresses

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Litecoin has mweb.

<elongated:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Can’t wait for fcmp++ to get those ztrash bagholders cry out loud how they have transparent addresses as a advantage

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Dont they already

<elongated:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: No, they call out 16 ringsize

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I thought the story ia that exchange addresses and transparent addresses are why zcash is better. Easier integrations, "freedom to choose" bla bka

<elongated:matrix.org> That will be next narrative, for now they want to show themselves as privacy coin 😅

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> i guess zcash is technically more private since nobody uses it. Cant trace what doesnt exist

<elongated:matrix.org> After near intent implementation lot of btc got dumped into ztrash

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> yeah, and near uses transparent zcash :D

<elongated:matrix.org> Thy support both afaik

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Not unless that changed recently

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> All trades settle on your static T address

<elongated:matrix.org> And then auto shielded somehow 😅

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> "privacy" coin that exposes all of your activity

<elongated:matrix.org> Won’t be supprosed their wallets having chainanal integration to keep their users safe 😂

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Want to deposit funds to your exchange? The deposit address can be looked up on chain to see evety deposit youve ever made

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Thats when i stopped using zcash. I looked up my t deposit address and it made me look rich

<xorchi2:matrix.org> @matrixbillygkiller:matrix.org: Don't forget to add the word "(optional)"

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its not really optional

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> its only optional if the only thing you do is p2p or f2f trades with someone else who accepts it

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Since, we see, the vast majority of service providers wont accept shielded deposits, wont send to shielded addressesv you dont really have a choice

<elongated:matrix.org> Gemini supports shielded deposits but doesn’t have xmr, winkle bros are for sure cia

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> only gemini

<gan:sofalounge.club> MimbleWimble side-chain of Litecoin could be, but that's beside the point > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> if litecoin isnt a privacy coin, Zcash isnt either

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> and cakepay, but cakepay shotgun bans ppl

<gan:sofalounge.club> nor that's really relevent in all fairness

<elongated:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Cabal

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @gan:sofalounge.club: Its not a sidechain

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Mweb is an extension block, id argue its as main chain as segwit

<gan:sofalounge.club> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Thanks for the correction, my memory is just fuzzy then

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> mweb stands for "mimblewimble extension block" :P

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> My point isnt that litcoin isnt a privacy coin, only that if zash is than so is litecoin

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Optionally private chains. If 90% of their volume being transparent doesnt diaqualify, than there are a lot of privacy coins

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I dont know how u:ified addresses work, but z addresses werenr rotatable either

<xorchi2:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I categorize Zcash alongside Litecoin. For me, optional privacy coins are not privacy coins. But Litecoin doesn't claim to be a privacy coin project.

<rbrunner7> Last time I checked more like 99% of LTC was transparent ...

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 90 vs 99%, same difference

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 368 mweb txs in the past 24 hrs 💪

<hbs:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: how many tx total?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> probably like 200k

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> lets see

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> 171k

<hbs:matrix.org> so 0.22%

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> zcash 3.7k total

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> so unless > 10% are shielded, than ltc had more

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> not sure which zcash explorer shows number of each

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> lets ask google/gemini

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Sapling: 194

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Orchard: 1,023

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> zechub.wiki/dashboard

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> no, zcash can be privacy coin while litecoin is not, their mweb has way worse privacy than the zec pools > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> My point isnt that litcoin isnt a privacy coin, only that if zash is than so is litecoin

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> no one even solved the problem that having a few nodes can uncoinjoin the whole thing

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> litecoin also had an infinite mint bug because of mweb

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> worse than zcash because it was infinite mint on the trasnparent side

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @kiersten5821:matrix.org: litecoin isnt a coinjoin?

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> zcash was infinite mint on the orchard pool.

<ravfx:xmr.mx> @kiersten5821:matrix.org: Is it possible to prove or disprove that this bug was used? Afaik for zcash it can't be proven.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Mweb was used, and then they coordinated with miners to stop mining those txs, and coordinated wirh attacker to return the mint & then burned it, iirc

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Er, im mixing up zcash and mweb

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> I zcash blocked mining of orchard txs, i dont rembwr what ltc did

<elongated:matrix.org> Ztrash lives rent free here due to ngu

<slowbeardigger:matrix.org> Ztrash still a thing?

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> mimblewimble is a form of coinjoin > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> litecoin isnt a coinjoin?

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> @ravfx:xmr.mx: 250k ltc were minted over two separate events litecoin.com/news/litecoin-mweb-security-incident-postmortem

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> litecoin is a joke coin

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> they did not only have an earlier incident which was not reported publicly but after supposedly addressing it, it happened again

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> amazing it still has a 3.6 billion dollar market cap after 2 infinite mints

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> Clown "industry"

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Your describing 99.69420% of the crypto industry

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> Infinite zcash could have been printed and we wont ever know unless the orchard pool is emptied > <@kiersten5821:matrix.org> 250k ltc were minted over two separate events litecoin.com/news/litecoin-mweb-security-incident-postmortem

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Would be funny

<ravfx:xmr.mx> One more entry in cryptoissogreat

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> @ravfx:xmr.mx: If youre eth, you just roll back the chain

<ravfx:xmr.mx> Its why we have etc

letsmine.it @ 72 TH/s :D

<rb411:matrix.org> Has anyone used XMR.cards? I'm looking to get a visa prepaid card which I was going to do with Cake Pay but it doesn't like that I'm using a VPN.

<ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> None of them like a vpn. YMMV

<gan:sofalounge.club> @rb411:matrix.org: Used XMR dot cards, worked fine for me so far

<gan:sofalounge.club> although haven't used that option yet

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> i bought a prepaid card but i cannot spend it anywhere because it gets denied when i'm on a vpn

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> i think it's denied at the payment processor level not the card level, i dont see anything on the card issuer website about denied transactions

<rb411:matrix.org> @kiersten5821:matrix.org: So you don't think it has anything to do with the fact that you're using a prepaid card instead of a standard credit/debit card?

<rb411:matrix.org> I'm planning on using it on a website that uses shopify/shop pay btw

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> @rb411:matrix.org: i think all the ones i tried so far are stripe, i saw other people on the website saying it worked for them so i assume it was because im on vpn

<kiersten5821:matrix.org> @rb411:matrix.org: how much do you need

<rb411:matrix.org> @kiersten5821:matrix.org: Around $40USD

"April 28, 2026" - the actual fuck, I thought MWEB for litecoin was mature, years old at this point

geez