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[17:38:11] +100 for selsta and erciccione ccs. Amazing work

[17:38:34] OK let's move on to the workgroups I suppose. The only proposal with strong rejection was the profit-switching pool one. I will add a comment to the gitlab issue to refer to this meeting

[17:39:26] thanks everybody for the support :)

[17:39:52] ty everyone :D

[17:40:02] If somebody wants to ping Luigi I think that means proposals from selsta, erciccione, and v1docq47 can all be merged then?

[17:40:30] luigi1111 luigi1111w get to work and stop kissing mario's cheek.

[17:40:44] The list of active workgroups in the agenda might be out of date or not relevant, but we could probably just run through it and see who is around

[17:40:59] +1

[17:41:34] a. Daemon/CLI workgroup

[17:41:45] please give v1doc a couple upvotes

[17:42:02] I doubt anybody from there is here but that is fine

[17:42:27] b. Localization workgroup

[17:42:57] selsta is here for a i guess?

[17:43:07] yes but not sure what to write

[17:43:53] what about we let the workgroups interested in discussing something specific to start?

[17:44:15] Meh they have their whole own channel, unless there is something to ask of the wider non-programmer community I don’t think you need to write anything

[17:44:29] +1 zkao

[17:45:09] If there are questions for the Localization workgroup and the Website workgroup, i can answer

[17:45:10] zkao: take it away. i may have one or two quick questions re farcaster. :)

[17:45:23] I'll give an update for Monero Space workgroup at the end

[17:45:28] progress can be seen on github, don't have a "summary" prepared

[17:45:37] That’d be great sgp

[17:46:59] Assuming there are no big updates from devs or questions about website/translations, next is

[17:46:59] d. Outreach workgroup

[17:47:00] sgp_ now has the floor

[17:47:11] Monero Outreach is working on a final report, but for the past 3-4 months we've been working on the Monero Merchant Directory portion which should be ready for initial launch shortly. To go with that, we've also been developing a program where merchants can request free POS sticker kits for their store/cash.

[17:47:15] outreach should go first

[17:47:27] nice.

[17:47:40] <Thunderosa[m] "Monero Outreach is working on a "> very cool. will there be a search functionality on this?

[17:47:53] lh1008 has been working on getting organized to add Hindi as well, which is exciting.

[17:48:10] Yes, it has search

[17:48:23] any updates on calendar?

[17:48:28] mapping/geo

[17:48:31] no third parties

[17:48:33] there's another calendar... on google calendar... ¬¬

[17:48:57] yup the monero.space/calendar one is on google calendar but we keep it up to date

[17:50:00] Next on the list is Defcon groups which I imagine has a lot going on right now:

[17:50:00] e. Defcon workgroup

[17:50:19] meeting kicking off in 10 mins. over at #monero-events.

[17:50:23] We have a meeting on this in ten minutes.

[17:50:25] I suppose I can speak for the Defcon workgroup

[17:50:30] event is slotted for next month.

[17:50:35] Is there a agenda item or question about Defcon in particular?

[17:50:49] our kanban is here github.com/MoneroSpace/defcon-cryptocurrency-village/projects/1

[17:50:54] I guess people can hop into that meeting in 10 mins for full details

[17:50:59] if you can help with any of those items, let us know in the meeting

[17:51:13] also please let us know if you will be at Defcon and/or the Monero Party :)

[17:51:18] there'll be an after party on sat. :) twitter.com/MoneroSound/status/1413292275891802113

[17:51:19] end defcon update

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Im interested in discussing monero research lab funding, since it looks like the current funding model is not working

Wish I could teleport to Vegas for this. Unless there are updates from "Policy" or "Malware" workgroups then I guess we move to "open ideas"?

zkao: ccs not working?

policy should have an update today, I just need to fix some wording I've been meaning to do for a few days

garlicgambit started this discussion on reddit

there isn't a single model as far as i know

nothing on malware (will almost never have a workgroup update there unless people want to help with that)

quickly on monero space then:

well, all we know that all the monero lab researchers are working elsewehre

There has been some discussion of ways to sustainably fund MRL work, I suggest a github issue under "meta" might be the best place to flesh out ideas

last week we did an >8 hour Monero Twitter Space which attracted hundreds of attendees youtube.com/watch?v=OlhUPFlThAs

zkao: there is a truckload of drama pegged to researchers working elsewhere. i presume it is nuanced and would take a lot of time to dissect.

thank you, carrington[m], will do

immediate plans are to work on the Discord, so if you are interested in the Discord at all, please let me know. I personally don't really want to moderate it

and revitalizing the flarum forum

end update

what is the flarum forum

crypto_grampy[m]: forum.monero.space

forum.monero.space, something we made but didn't put much love into since launch. but we should since it's good to have a non-reddit forum community

Telegram voice are on the list too, I have the necessary permissions. so pick a date/time and we'll do it

There is also a forum by the "Monero punks" group. I guess they are a kind of workgroup so they should maybe be notified of these meetings

whenever. i got nothing better to do. :)

rottenstonks: I'm not in here for the drama, but it seems there are people willing to fund monero work, we just have to find a structure that our researchers are happy and stay working on the lab

carrington[m]: lza isn't here, unfortunately. anarkiocrypto[m] maybe?

zkao: if we find that structure not only for researchers but also for the other people currently working on Monero, that would be good :)

zkao: it is nuanced. one of the main issues currently is receiving xmr instead of fiat. there was a recent thread considering giving stablecoins vs. xmr.

we are not the mvps of Monero like MRL people are, but we would appreciate some stability as well :P

any ccs taker is betting on xmr price going up, while receiving 'regular' salary. it carries taxes implications and financial burden on contributors.

I think for such a big issue maybe a Github issue and dedicated IRC/Matrix meeting should be arranged

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+1

that is it from me

maybe we can talk about MAGIC MRL fund next meeting

MRL discussion was the major agenda item after ccs stuff but then it got merged into brainstorming

Bad idea I guess

We should quickly set a time/date for next meeting and agree on some structure

are carrington[m] and bevanoff[m] leading community meetings from here on out? if so, next should be in two weeks, following prior regular schedule of a community meeting every two weeks.

I am afraid in two weeks I will be unavailable to chair any kind of meeting that day

i'll be out of town as well. :(

But I will take a look at commenting on gitlab issues and such in the meantime

I’d like to see meeting members cycle through a sorta long list

*meeting leaders not members

I too have a hectic schedule, this time just happened to work out for me so I volunteered

sounds fair. hopefully there's people volunteering their time too... i'd be down, but alas, won't be around as i previously said.

Well anyways if it is set for same time in two weeks we can all stick to that

thanks for doing this, btw.

It would be great if someone could post logs on the meeting issue page for this meeting

Igy

thanks everyone, very pleased someone is doing these again :D

carrington[m]: i can get you the logs after we've wrapped up on a pastebin. but won't post them on github myself.

special thanks for bevanoff and carrington

rottenstonks: dw I can post to github

kk, tks.

Didn’t Realise This Was A Thing, Will Keep An Eye Out For The Next One ✌️🇬🇧

I guess we can say MEETING ADJOURNED.

Remember, there is another meeting here at the same time in 2 weeks.

There is also a Defon meeting in monero-defcon right now

jack.monerouk: add monero.space/calendar to your calendar :)

glad to see this sort of meetings again, I think they're invaluable for everyone to get out of their little own silo :) Thanks a lot carrington[m] and everyone who organized

<sgp_[m] "jack.monerouk: add monero.space/"> Thank You 🙏

please make always clear who will be the moderator of the meetings. If some controversial individual will end up leading them, i won't participate.

xoxo binaryFate.

in the github issue i mean

Thanks to everybody and up to seeing y'all again!

Good meeting bevanoff[m], thank you.

tx Ben

I also second ErCiccione’s comment

log is posted in comments

bevanoff: the log is quite incomprehensible. I suggest to pull the logs for somewhere like monerologs.net

Unfortunately logs look like they cut off at 17:51 anyways on monerologs?

I see a "Playback Complete.", but then the logs continue. Unless i'm misunderstanding

Looks like bot service died 7/8, and then whoever maintains it only realized at 17:51 today where logs continue

ErCiccione: what makes is incomprehensible? That the names aren’t in brackets?

More so that each line doesn't have a clear name associated to it I think

bevanoff: it's a mix of nicks and strings without an actual structure. It's very hard to understand what's going on

I have added comments to the unmerged CCS proposals, linking to the logs of the meeting in this channel

yes, the logs are not readable

also it seems to include quotes that are not visible as quotes

Good meeting bevanoff[m], thank you.

Oop sorry matrix was being mean and mad me copy and paste in chunks

I’ll fix it when I get home if somebody else hasn’t by then

Good meeting bevanoff[m], thank you.

Is monero being spam attacked right now or is there just a lot of usage?

There is 1.1 broadcasted tx per second according to txstreet

why?

Highest I've ever seen it

Or just load tested?

not aware of any spam currently

mempool also looks rather empty xmrchain.net

The mempool doesn't seem to be overfilled by any definition

Ah, I guess its just getting a lot of usage right now which is cool

Personally I haven't seen it higher than 1 tps ever

Actually it just slowed according to txstreet

<carrington[m] "I am afraid in two weeks I will "> I can chair

(Also excited to see it was a very successful meeting!)