the sync has slowed down 30 fold for some reason as it approached finalization :| more hours left than when i went to bed :D

pilotg[m]: there are a lot of random reads when validating blocks - since it has to retrieve all the outputs

maybe the latter blocks are significantly larger since it slows down so hard? went from 20-30 mb/s writes to nok less than 1 mb

* maybe the latter blocks are significantly larger since it slows down so hard? went from 20-30 mb/s writes to now less than 1 mb

yeah different time periods sync at very different speeds

blocks before CT were a LOT smaller/lighter

and some periods have really busy blocks

and volumes have been growing steadily over the past few years

ah okay i kinda see how the time estimates were so off

still hard to see where the bottleneck is, task manager says harddisk usage 3 mb/s , cpu usage 8%

spinning rust?

that will be 2% of the ssd im using (:

oh ssd?

yea a samsung evo 970

been a while since I synced from scratch. was like 4.5 hours back then. I think it isn't all that great at parallel processing, so fewer faster cores are better than more and slower cores

yea it looks like it is using 6 out of my 24 cores (ryzen 3900)

my uneducated guess is that is because there arent enough L2 memory for all the cores

pilotg[m]: is it external ssd?

no its on pcie 3

08:44 <pilotg[m]> the sync has slowed down 30 fold for some reason as it approached finalization :| more hours left than when i went to bed :D <-- that's when you reach the last checkpoint

once a new release is out it will contain fresh checkpoints

only the blocks after the latest checkpoints are super slow

ah okay, makes sense that is been using 5 hours to get through 120k blocks now

because it were the latest

the latest release was a couple months ago

so it had to do a lot of blocks without checkpoints

but it did the remaining 2 million blocks during the night

ah right, at least im soon done now . 4300 remaining, if the gui wallet speaks truth

thanks for clarifying that sir

how many teams are working on atomic swaps, two or three? I remember comit and farcaster but i have the feeling i'm missing one

<ErCiccione> "how many teams are working on at" <- Just those two AFAIK.

ok, thanks

should mining with XMRig and GUI Wallet give me equal mining performance?

i see both suggested in different guides

no

XMRig will be faster most likely

it is more optimized

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Wait, big corp doesn't care about your privacy? Hmmm

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having fun trying out the network and mining, but with my 30 cent kwh cost and the cost of CPUs, it seems to be a really bad business :-D

has it been more profitable before?

competition results in........

efficiency

and 30 cents kwh is very inefficient

I don't think you will ever be profitable in mining unless you spend a crazy amount of money in hardware at those kWh (unless you account for future value of Monero, to which it would just be better to buy it directly).

<nioc> "and 30 cents kwh is very..." <- its a quite high price compared to the price in underdeveloped countries using coal powers, but if it has to be a decentralized network across the whole globe, some of us living in expensive nations have to mine ;)

companies using more than ~20 gW a year can get it for around 13 cents here, but i had not such a scale of operations in mind

and by using company money that not already have been taxed, i can effectively cut off a further 50%

<pilotg[m]> "its a quite high price compared..." <- Not sure what country you're in, but its not hard to find much cheaper energy in the U.S. even ar metropolitan residential rates. I live in a very large city in the US, any my residential electric rate is ~10¢/KWh... 30¢ seems quite high, or maybe the US is cheap?

* Not sure what country you're in, but its not hard to find much cheaper energy in the U.S. even at metropolitan residential rates. I live in a very large city in the US, and my residential electric rate is ~10¢/KWh... 30¢ seems quite high, or maybe the US is cheap?

I would love to see an energy price map of the world

* Not sure what country you're in, but its not hard to find much cheaper energy in the U.S. even at metropolitan residential rates. I live in a very large city in the US, and my residential electric rate is ~10¢/KWh... 30¢ seems quite high, or maybe the US is cheaper than I realized?

* Not sure what country you're in, but its not hard to find much cheaper energy in the U.S. even at metropolitan residential rates. I live in a very large city in the US, and my residential electric rate is ~10¢/KWh... 30¢ seems quite high, or maybe the US is just cheaper than I realized?

In some European countries 20-30 cents kwh is the average price. I wonder if solar mining could be profitable or break even? strom-report.de/medien/elctricity-prices-eu-country.png

I've been looking into 200w solar panels. It seems like they are more affordable than I ever thought. You can buy things called grid ties, which plug into your usual power socket which is a pretty meet way to offset some costs.

What? So it just like runs in reverse or something? Wow.

Some electric companies will pay for the excess power provided by your panels

I never thought about the fact that you could plug a solar panel into a standard electrical outlet and it would just push rather than pull electricity. An electric motor run in reverse is a generator, after all.

There's a bit more to it as solar panels are DC power and require inversion and you need to make sure you're following proper code so that people working on your power lines are able to shut down your power productoion/not get electrocuted 😅, but yes electricity is cool

I imagine many if not most solar installs in the us are grid tied only and actually won't help the homeowner in the event of a power outage

They just help to lower or eliminate monthly power bills.

A good install would probably involve a backup battery, several circuits connected to that battery and an automatic transfer switch that immediately switches from the grid to battery in the event of a power outage

<crypto_grampy[m]> "There's a bit more to it as sola" <- So there is such a thing as a grid tie inverter. Which will only output power if it senses power from the electrical socket. That way electrician s are safe as when they break the line, the inverters stop working

Those set ups are crazy simple, wires from the solar panels and a wire out of the inverter and into the wall

Yep I just wanted to make sure people weren't plugging their solar panels into the wall 😂

Though I know the monero community is smarter than that

crypto_grampy[m]: XD careful. I will say, if you make it to matrix at least, you're a certain kind

To me, trying to power your miners with solar is good step to take anyway, regards of the cost if power. If your going to drop a load of cash with the objective of mining. You ought to invest in solar too

<ChadthePervious[> "Not sure what country you're in," <- haha, yeah try and come to europe sir. you think US is expensive, in holland, denmark and switzerland you have to multiply everything with 2. the actual power cost is around 8 cent, then our government that owns the power grid take the remaining 24 cents

i plan moving to a cheaper country soon though, also in eu, which are heavily exposed to sun so there will be some better incentives

from what I hear, in Germany you can't use the solar you generate but must sell it to the power company at a very reduced rate

that sounds kinda dumb

* To me, trying to power your miners with solar is good step to take anyway, regardless of the cost if power. If your going to drop a load of cash with the objective of mining. You ought to invest in solar too

Like the State owns the photons, and you have no right to use them for yourself? Lmao. Guess that means farmers are sun thieves

its kinda the same in the states with solar. i investigated the option, and the dude told me that no, the solar you generate can't be used directly, it goes to the grid

If you cant use solar panes to charge your own batteries - and send only the excess to the grid, there's no point in solar

That would make it illegal to buy solar phone/laptop chargers, camping panels, etc. Maybe I'm missing something.

I have a colleague in the states with solar panels set up to a separate junction box in his house for direct usage, and his power company knows about it and had it certified by a licensed electrician. Also lots of rural ranchers that have solar panels set up to power irrigation pumps and cattle feeds, etc.

I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure its legal to use your own solar energy in the US. In fact, I cant imagine how it would be legal to disallow that

yeah. i think if i had batteries it woulda been different. but the vendor i was talking with didn't do batteries or watever

Some places in the us offer different rates at different times of day. You could, for example, charge a battery pack at low rate and power your miners off battery at times of high rates

Something like this may make more sense than solar

I believe some of the new ev's coming out have bidirectional charging capabilities as well

crypto_grampy[m]: I thought nursing homes didn't charge their residents for electricity?

can someone recommend me a pool?

preferrable not one of the biggest ones to do my part in decentralizing

hashvault for purely monero

moneroocean if you wanna do some algo switching

even if you just mine monero, MO has 0% fee for now

thx

<pilotg[m]> "can someone recommend me a pool?" <- I heard the guys over at supportxmr are nice